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    Leading Second Podcast

    A monthly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair.

    Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.

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    S6 Ep. 146 // John & Anna Morgan on Being a Number One Number Two May 18, 2023
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    John and Dr. Anna Morgan from Word of Life Church in Springfield, VA dive into what it is to be a Second Chair Leader through the eyes of former Second Chair Leaders who are now First Chair Leaders. They bring honest and Biblical truths to how we are called to walk out what God has called us to do.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 145 // Nathan Finochio on Stewarding Your Calling May 11, 2023
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    Brandon, Joshua Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Kyle Heinecke, Campus Pastor at Fresh Life Church in Kalispell, MT sit down with Nathan Finochio to discuss walking in your calling while still serving under your leader.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 144 // Levi Lusko on Things Your Pastor Wished You Knew May 04, 2023
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    Brandon spends some time with Levi Lusko, founder and lead pastor of Fresh Life Church, discussing several topics to help Second Chair Leaders understand some aspects of leadership and ministry that lead pastors wished their team knew.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 143 // Brandon & Lindsay Stewart - Ask Us Anything Apr 27, 2023
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    Brandon and Lindsay Stewart take us through their thoughts on family, peer relationships, nonnegotiables, and ways to renew. Dillon Ritchie from CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, facilitates the discussions of different aspects of ministry and how the Leading Second leaders walk through the varying aspects of ministry. Joining the panel are Matt and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, and Jon Hatto from Hillsong Church in Toronto, Canada.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 142 // Lee Wilson on The Vision Tension Apr 20, 2023
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    Pastor Lee Wilson, the founder of Lee Wilson Ministries, fires us up about God’s vision for our lives. With the help of Pastor Tracy Keene from StrongPoint Church in Columbus, OH, and Dillon Ritchie from CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, Brandon dives into what it looks like to manage the tensions between the vision we serve under and the vision we are carrying.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 141 // Temi Pope on Standing In For Your Leader Apr 14, 2023
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    In this episode, Brandon sits down with Temi Pope, the Senior Executive Pastor at Union Church, and breaks down how she works to stay in tune and stand in for her pastors. Through practical examples, Temi and Brandon walk through how to stand in for your pastor to help move the mission of the Church forward.


    S6 Ep. 140 // Les McKeown on Scaling Your Organization (and What It Will Require of You) Mar 30, 2023
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    We’re back with another installment of our conversation with Les McKeown. He is the President and CEO of Predictable Success and a consultant to companies and many different levels. In the Last episode, we talked about moving from a start-up to a scaling phase in your organization. Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, joins us once again as we talk more about scaling, what Les calls Predictable Success, and what it will require of you.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 139 // Les McKeown on Moving From Start-Up to Scaling Mar 23, 2023
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    In this episode, we are talking with Les McKeown, the President and CEO of Predictable Success. In his consulting work, he works with CEOs, Fortune 500 companies, and down on how to achieve scaleable and sustainable growth in an organization. He’s the author of four books, and he leads an organization of consultants. With the help of Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX, we will hear some brilliant wisdom about moving from start-up to scaling.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 138 // Joshua Bingle & Michael Whittle on Leading in an Anti-Authority Culture Mar 16, 2023
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    There’s a tension in being under authority while also being called to lead others. Culture can pull at us to see the authority we are led by as “the problem” rather than the sin we each possess. Joshua Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Michael Whittle, Pastor at C3LA in Los Angeles and founder of Vast Media, bring some critical insight into how we are called to see and honor the leaders and authority figures God has placed over us.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


    S6 Ep. 137 // “I Am With You” with Nate Puccini Mar 09, 2023
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    Nate Puccini, the Executive Pastor at Substance Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, discussed his walk to returning to the Church, his views on serving, and how to focus your life to see God and your pastor. Through his story, the relationship between Jonathan and David, and some real talk about walking out the call on our lives, we get to learn how to refocus our perspective on serving and leading.

    Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


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