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    Leading Second Podcast

    A monthly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair.

    Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.

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    S5 Ep. 127 // What We Think About From the First Chair (Lead Pastors Panel) Oct 13, 2022
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    For this conversation, I am sitting down with a group of lead pastors as they give us a unique perspective into the head and heart of our own pastors. Jason Parrish from The Well, Carey & Meghan Robinson from The Movement OC, and Pace Hartfield from One Place Church, join me. We discuss the idea that the better the relationship between the first and second chair, the more aligned our teams will be and the healthier our churches will be.


    S5 Ep. 126 // Developing a Leadership Culture (In a Quiet Quitting World) with Larry Brey Oct 06, 2022
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    In the spirit of opening registration for Camp, this conversation is with our great friend Larry Brey. He is the unofficial cohost for our event and his voice has been a pillar of this tribe. Today we are talking about developing a leadership culture. What is culture, where does it come from, and how do we multiply it? We’re tackling all of that today.


    S5 Ep. 125 // Being Faithful Under Authority with the C3 Los Angeles Team Sep 29, 2022
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    We are joined by James Crocker and Michael Whittle, from C3 Los Angeles. The conversation gets a little spicy, talking about Godly authority, submission, and how to get it right. They share some great wisdom on the topic and give a beautiful picture of what biblical submission under authority looks like in our lives and talk about the benefits that come with it.


    S5 Ep. 124 // Reflecting the Heart of Your Pastors with Earl & Oneka McClellan Sep 22, 2022
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    This episode’s guests are longtime friends of the Leading Second tribe, Earl and Oneka McClellan. They sat in the second chair for many years and now sit in the first chair as Senior Pastors at Shoreline City Church, just outside of Dallas, Texas. They talk about alignment, studying our pastors and learning their vocabulary, and having confidence in our identity.


    S5 Ep. 123 // Having Confidence In Your Unique Calling with Omar El-Takrori Sep 15, 2022
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    We have the honor of hearing from Omar El-Takrori. Omar serves as the Community Pastor at City Light Church in Las Vegas, Nevada, and a content creator with Think Media. He shares his thoughts on serving, having confidence in your calling, and how to utilize social media to have an impact on your ministry.


    S5 Ep. 122 // Cultivating Unity in Our Churches with the Rivers Church Team Sep 08, 2022
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    I recently got the opportunity to sit down with Kogi Nareen and Shaun Lewarne from Rivers Church in South Africa. In this conversation, they bring insight into how their church has begun to shape their community’s culture by adjusting the mindsets of those attending each weekend. They also give some great thoughts on how to lead well from the second chair.


    S5 Ep. 121 // Summer Camp: Larry Brey on Rediscovering Before You Reinvent Jul 28, 2022
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    It’s the last episode of our Summer Camp series, and we’ve got a treat for you. Larry Brey from Elevation Church shares a lesson that will challenge what you might think needs changing in your church. Our panel this week does a great job expanding on his thoughts and helping us use this to align with the spirit of our own house.


    S5 Ep. 120 // Brandon Stewart on Stewards & Servants (Summer Camp) Jul 21, 2022
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    This is the third episode of our Summer Camp series, and Brandon Stewart shares a message teaching us the difference between stewards and servants. And we have a fantastic panel that gives us some questions to ask ourselves that will connect us to what we are called to be stewards of.


    S5 Ep. 119 // Joshua Bingle on How To Rest The Right Way (Summer Camp) Jul 14, 2022
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    We're back with the second episode of our Summer Camp series. This week we are joined by Joshua Bingle from Genesis Church in Spokane, WA. He challenges us about how we look at self-care and how we rest. With our new format for Summer Camp, our panel talks through this teaching, and what rest looks like in their lives.


    S5 Ep. 118 // Nichole Moore on the Reason You Might Be Stuck (Summer Camp) Jul 07, 2022
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    This is the first episode of a 4 part series called Summer Camp. We have an incredible teaching by Nicole Moore from Champion’s Centre in Tacoma, WA, about the discipline of remembrance and how that can unlock some things in our leadership. In a new format just for this series, we have a panel that discusses their thoughts on this teaching and how to apply it.


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