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    Latter Day Struggles

    The Latter Day Struggles Podcast addresses beliefs and issues within the LDS faith that are challenging to talk about but vital to discuss for those trying to navigate their relationship in or around the church. Valerie and her guests invite psychological maturity, theological health, and institutional integrity. 

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    453: Listening & Learning: Why LDS Loved Ones Could Not Stay in the Church Jul 20, 2026
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    Series Title: Torn: Why People We Love are Leaving the Church & What We Can Learn from Them [Part III of III]

    In this final episode of this beautiful series featuring guest author Jeff Strong & his bestselling book Torn: Why People We Love are Leaving the Church & What We Can Learn from Them, Val & Jeff cover four "culture imbalances" that thousands of disaffiliated LDS offered as reasons they could not grow in the context of the LDS church. Listen in to hear some sobering & important data that offers a more accurate narrative surrounding the current LDS dissafiliation crisis.

    As painful a this information might be for devout LDS loved ones, this information is vitally important. Can those who loved the church and want what is best for their faith- expanding families listen to their feedback and create safe harbor for those on unexpected faith journeys?

    The only way our LDS homes and wards can become this kind of community is to listen, learn, and trust the words and experiences of those who often only leave because they feel that thriving spiritually is not possible if they stay.

    Jeff's book Torn linked HERE

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

    02:45 Why These Talks Matter

    05:00 Unexpected Family Reversals

    13:14 Why Culture Is Key

    20:25 Imbalance One Who Belongs

    28:53 Balancing Standards With Love

    35:13 Transactional Faith Pitfalls

    44:54 Map Not The Sea

    50:57 Agency Versus Compliance

    54:28 Trusting Individual Conscience

    01:00:23 Pressure To Conform

    01:03:15 Ubuntu And Closing Takeaways

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    451: A Changing Society is Starving for Religious Systems to Meet them Where they Are Jul 13, 2026
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    Series Title: Torn: Why People We Love are Leaving the Church & What We Can Learn from Them [Part II of III]

    In this fascinating episode, guest author Jeff Strong & Valerie tackle several key points that Jeff courageously and gently addresses in his bestselling book Torn: Why People We Love are Leaving the Church & What We can Learn from Them.

    Today, Jeff & Val lay out several culture issues that are pressuring the need for churches to adapt-not because people are becoming less and less "spiritual"...but because evolution is an upward spiral and human beings entering new stages of faith development have different needs. If these needs are not acknowledged; or if they are vilified, shamed, or pathologized- they will go away. We are seeing this at record rates in the LDS church.

    Listen in as Jeff and Valerie clarify not only why so many lifelong multi-generational Latter Day Saints are leaving--but also share how spiritual growth/ differientiation & community belonging need not be mutually exclusive.

    Jeff's book Torn linked HERE

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Book Setup

    01:38 Recap and Survey Numbers

    03:13 Seeing and Humility

    10:12 Culture as Soil Metaphor

    15:44 Acceptance and Faith Stages

    25:19 Fear to Hope and Growth

    29:18 Four Storms Shaping Belief

    37:19 Culture Change and Margins

    45:44 Diversity and Balanced Energy

    51:05 Next Episode Preview and Closing

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    449: Torn: A Book Written to Help Your Devout Loved One Understand You Jul 06, 2026
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    Series Title: Torn: Why People We Love are Leaving the Church & What We Can Learn from Them [Part 1 of 3]

    In this three part series, Valerie is joined by Jeff Strong- friend, colleague, and author of the best-selling book Torn: Why People We Love are Leaving the Church & What We Can Learn from Them. In this opening episode, Jeff shares his personal experience as an LDS bishop and father at a crisis point in time when his missionary son disclosed that he was coming home and leaving the LDS church.

    In this moment, Jeff felt that everything was falling apart & in his own valley of the shadow, he could not meet his son where he was in his own valley of the shadow. The following 13 years comprising hundreds of interviews with disaffiliating Latter-day Saints & heartfelt soul-searching about the true meaning of faith culminates in this book: a Love Letter to the Devout Latter-day Saint who has a loved one who has left the faith.

    Please listen to this series & consider reading than then gifting Jeff's book to one of your loved ones who does not understand your spiritual journey. Together we can heal our community and build bridges of understanding & belonging. no matter where we are on the spectrum of faith.

    Jeff's book Torn linked HERE.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Introductions

    02:07 Why Jeff Wrote Torn

    02:56 Faith Crisis Sparks Research

    06:16 Years of Writing and Rewrites

    07:32 Who the Book Is For

    11:07 Upstream vs Downstream Trauma

    13:48 A Devout Reader’s Reaction

    17:06 Mixed Faith Marriage Pain Point

    20:24 Disaffiliation Numbers and Studies

    28:36 Counter Narratives on Growth

    29:52 Growth vs Activity Metrics

    32:07 Convert Baptisms and Disaffiliation

    33:04 Two Truths in Church Life

    35:59 Four Waves Overview

    38:11 Why Waves Feel Sequential

    40:50 Upstream vs Downstream Pushback

    43:54 Stages of Faith Transition

    47:37 Belonging Over Belief

    51:31 Success Stories of Inclusion

    55:58 Bar Mitzvah Closing Story

    58:27 Wrap Up and Next Episode

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    447: Why We Stay Small & Hide our Greatest Strengths from the World Jun 29, 2026
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    In this episode, Valerie & colleague Jana Spangler are guests on Dan Wotherspoon's Latter Day Faith podcast where they talk about a little known version of the human shadow.

    Many of us know about the 'classic shadow'...you know...parts of ourselves that we are ashamed of and seek to hide. What about parts of ourselves that we also hide...even though they are our our strengths, our superpowers and even manifestations of our unique spiritual gifts & attributes?

    Listen in as Dan, Jana, and Valerie discuss why people in general tend to have and hide "golden shadows" and as they explore some reasons why the LDS population might manifest unique "golden shadows" as a consequence of LDS theology and tradition.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Meet the Hosts

    00:48 Where to Find Val

    01:24 Jana’s Coaching Work

    02:18 Shadow Work Basics

    03:44 What Is Golden Shadow

    04:58 Projection and Admiration

    07:15 Fear of Your Light

    10:09 Sacred Examples of Calling

    13:12 Spotting Golden Shadow

    18:43 Therapy Approach and Safety

    21:41 Patriarchy and Buried Identity

    29:25 Grief Forgiveness and Family

    31:56 Grieving Without Confronting

    32:51 Shame and the Not Me Boundary

    35:50 Holding Complexity With Kids

    37:07 Critical Thinking Both And

    38:33 Mormon Theology and Sin Scripts

    46:55 Inner Work and Quiet Practices

    52:55 Golden Shadow and Authority

    59:33 Reclaiming Discernment and Closing

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    445: LDS Missionary Work and OCD Scrupulosity Jun 22, 2026
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    Series Title: "Latter Day Missionaries": A Mental Health Resource for LDS Missionaries & their Families [Part II of II]

    In this episode Dr. Bryson Ensign joins Valerie again to unpack OCD & scrupulosity in the LDS mission field. This episode first explores how Dr. Bryson covers OCD/scrupulosity in his "Mental Health Training Center". It also explores how this resource could be lifesaving tool for the missionary as well as a crucial resource for the parents of full-time missionaries concerned about their child's wellbeing and not knowing how to help when their child is far away and struggling with various mental healthy issues.

    Find additional information on Dr. Ensign's program HERE.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome Back Intro

    00:44 Why Missions Get Complicated

    03:11 Mental Health Training Center Overview

    07:00 Why Missionaries Are Vulnerable

    10:15 Parents Need Support Too

    15:52 Steady Parenting Skills

    20:39 Pivot to OCD Scrupulosity

    23:42 How Each Lesson Works

    30:32 Bryson Mission Story

    35:04 When Scrupulosity Gets Reinforced

    38:21 Healthy vs Unhealthy Faith

    39:52 Parents Spot the Signs

    42:43 Accountability Partner Plan

    44:32 Lesson Flow Overview

    45:38 OCD Basics Explained

    49:16 Scrupulosity on a Mission

    55:23 Why Missions Trigger It

    58:51 Three Practical Tools

    01:04:30 Where to Get Help

    01:07:38 Specialized OCD Treatment

    01:09:51 Final Thanks and Wrap

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    443: Addressing Real Mental Health Needs for the Full-time LDS Missionary Jun 15, 2026
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    Series Title: "Latter Day Missionaries": A Mental Health Resource for LDS Missionaries & their Families [Part I of II]

    Do you know anyone who experienced issues with anxiety, depression, homesickness, getting along with that annoying companion, or struggles with shame and perfectionism on their LDS mission? Was that you? Your child? If you have been touched in any way with the LDS mission experience and would like a resource that is worth its weight in gold, this series is for you.

    In today's episode you will meet Dr. Bryson Ensign, a former LDS missionary and psychiatrist in training who has dedicated countless hours creating a resource that he wishes he had on his own mission. As a devoted listener to the Latter Day Struggles podcast, Bryson shares a passion with Valerie to help those in and around the LDS faith with issues of mental well being that are often not understood (and therefore not addressed ) at the institutional level.

    This episode shares his vision, sense of call, and an overview of his program. The next episode walks you through an entire segment of his curriculum (dealing with scrupulosity on the LDS mission). Enjoy!

    Find additional information on Dr. Ensign's program HERE.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

    02:48 Bryson's Background and Faith

    07:24 Why Mission Mental Health

    10:56 Program Overview: Latter Day Missionaries

    16:01 Mental Health Training Center

    20:36 Lesson Topics and Tools

    28:19 Designed for Every Faith Stage

    33:13 Holding Complexity: Obedience, Shame, and Mental Health

    36:13 Systemic Challenges and Early Returns

    40:30 Real Stories: Missionaries Suffering in Silence

    46:10 The Church, Mental Health, and Cultural Change

    51:16 Personal Call and Inspiration

    57:52 Next Episode: Scrupulosity Preview

    01:00:00 Closing and Resources

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    441: The Politics of Jesus: Not Subtle, Not Silent, Not Neutral Jun 08, 2026
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    Series Title: Religion IS Political [Part VII of VII]

    This final episode of this series is our response to the point of view that Jesus did not ‘get political’. Jesus (and each of us) cannot avoid being political. We state our “politics” with each stance to either uphold or resist dominator hierarchies. And Jesus’ whole ministry can be defined by resistance to any system that placed the life of any human being over the life of any other human being.

    Listen to this episode to answer for yourself the following questions: Did the actual Jesus of Nazareth embody radical love for all human beings and speak strongly and often about very "political" topics? Or did claim neutrality in a way that left those of his time uncertain about how he felt about authoritarian power structures and their treatment of "the least of these"?

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Series Finale

    02:06 Recap of Episodes One to Six

    05:01 Liberation Jesus or Empire Mascot

    06:42 Scripture Lenses and Competing Jesuses

    08:47 Jesus of Nazareth vs Christ of Empire

    12:48 Refusing Power and Inner Kingdom

    20:30 Flattening Margins and Social Norms

    27:58 Good Samaritan and Bad Laws Today

    34:42 Challenging Religious Gatekeeping

    40:05 Taking Jesus Name Through Action

    43:23 Love Over Fear God Image

    47:06 Closing Thanks and Fellowship Invite

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    BONUS EPISODE: Do you Want to Make a Difference? Join us! Jun 05, 2026
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    Hey listeners of the Latter Day Struggles podcast! Join Val in this bonus episode as she answers audience questions that will help you feel like you've come to the right place for psychologically sound resources and community on your LDS faith expansion journey. We're not about burning anything down. We are about bridging. Building. Expanding. Transcending. Including. Becoming.

    In this bonus episode Val answers a couple of questions about relationship struggles that inevitably come up when our relationship with the LDS church is evolving. She also shares her vision for the future of the LDS church if faith expanding people continue to gather and practice a more radical, inclusive, and non-polarized love than currently exists in our present LDS culture as groups gather at the opposite poles.

    To be a part of a movement that actively practices critical thinking and personal growth--join Valerie & others leading out in a new way to manifest what true faith expansion is.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Purpose

    02:07 How We Are Different

    05:09 Beyond Binary Healing

    07:45 Transcend and Include

    12:18 Monday vs Friday Episodes

    14:32 Friday Spiritual Expansion

    21:57 Live Fellowship Overview

    24:36 Fellowship Topics and Schedule

    30:11 Upcoming Mission Mental Health Series

    34:52 Why Groups Matter

    42:52 Talking Across Ladder Rungs

    52:15 Enrollment and Closing

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    439: Religious Silence is Complicity in Times of Social Unrest Jun 01, 2026
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    Series Title: Religion IS Political [Part VI of VII]

    In this episode Val & Nathan break down what religious institutional silent is communicating in times of social unrest. Don't miss this episode or series if you want to more deeply understand why religions are simply never neutral! They are loudly communicating what they stand for when they choose silence over speaking truth to power.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Series Recap Setup

    02:12 Religion Meets Politics

    05:24 Legitimacy vs Transformation

    06:59 Silence Equals Complicity

    08:48 Why Churches Stay Quiet

    13:23 Truth Claims Block Reform

    20:05 Faith as Moral Reform

    26:01 Rethinking Prophets

    29:37 Prophetic Not Partisan

    31:30 Closing and Next Episode


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    437: Whose Life is Worth Protecting? Politics & Religion Weight in 2026 May 25, 2026
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    Series Title: Religion IS Political [Part V of VII]

    In this episode exploring the intersection of religion and politics, Val & Nathan explore several specific areas where politics and religion are addressing the exact same fundamental questions around human dignity & worth; justice & injustice; and the appropriate use of power.

    They then compare how these fundamental issues are confronted in real time on a world stage as Politician Donald Trump and Religious Leader Pope Leo XIV prove powerfully that politics and religion cannot be dissociated but must dialogue in order to find common ground in questions of human value, safety, and basic dignity. They also each demonstrate (through their respective approaches and value systems) two very different levels of human moral & consciousness development.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Welcome and Setup

    00:33 Religion Meets Politics

    02:33 Same Core Questions

    06:21 Human Dignity and Rights

    11:22 Consciousness Development and Political Behavior

    13:35 When Laws Protect the Wrong Values

    14:40 Christian Nationalism and the LDS Church's Silence

    20:42 LDS Shadow History and the Epstein Files

    22:52 Justice and Accountability

    26:07 Power Morality and Resistance

    28:18 Rosa Parks and Inner Authority

    30:03 Early Faith vs Transformation

    33:08 Follow the Leader vs Follow the Divine Within

    33:21 Elder Gilbert, ICE Raids, and LDS Silence

    35:07 Legitimacy as the Highest Value in Mormonism

    41:45 Pope Leo vs Trump

    51:33 Episode Wrap and Next Steps

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