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    Latter Day Struggles

    The Latter Day Struggles Podcast addresses beliefs and issues within the LDS faith that are challenging to talk about but vital to discuss for those trying to navigate their relationship in or around the church. Valerie and her guests invite psychological maturity, theological health, and institutional integrity. 

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    161: Young Adults Want the Hard Conversations w/ Patrick Mason Oct 02, 2023
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    Series Title: Guiding & Trusting LDS Young Adults as They Navigate their Faith [Part I of II]
    Welcome to a beautiful two-part conversation between Valerie and Patrick Mason, who talk about the often-unaddressed issue of conflict in religious congregations and how tough conversations can be turned around to propel spiritual growth.

    Patrick has a unique perspective in this issue as a university professor who has recently begun holding gatherings in his home, helping young adults in and around the LDS church feel safe in their honest enquiries around spirituality in general and the LDS faith in specific.

    Valerie and Patrick traverse complex terrain, discussing the fear of constructive conflict within the Latter-day Saint community that often stifles genuine spiritual ministering and growth. Patrick examines this cultural practice, arguing that conflict can and should be seen as an opportunity for growth rather than a threat to unity and peace.

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    159: LDS University Students Pressured to Not Ask Hard Questions Sep 25, 2023
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    Series Title: Analysis of E.Corbridge BYU Devotional “Stand Forever [Part I of II]
    In the next two episodes Valerie and Nathan respond to a BYU address titled “Stand Forever” by E. Corbridge, where he proposes to university students that there are only four questions that even matter in one’s quest for spiritual knowledge in the LDS church.

    According to him, once these “primary questions” are answered, no “secondary questions” need be asked.

    In this series Valerie and Nathan challenge both the proposed four “primary questions” themselves and the premise that it is wrong to enquire about anything related to our unique faith journeys.

    FRIDAY’S episode tackles Val’s and Nathan’s responded to E Corbridge’s proposal that scientific and other academic inquiry is not spiritual in nature and explore why the experience of doubt is evidence of spiritual questing and courage.

    Podcast-related resources:

    • Stand Forever, by Lawrence E. Corbridge, BYU Devotional

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    157: The Spiritual Dangers of Magical Thinking w/ Christian Kimball Sep 18, 2023
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    Series Title: “On the Inside of the Edge” Exploration w/ Christian Kimball [Part III of IV]
    In this episode Chris and Val talk about dangers of MAGICAL THINKING and how pervasive this is in the LDS church. They discuss how compelling a transactional understanding of life might feel (as all people crave certainty) but how damaging this is when churches offer simple if/then promises that crumble for many of us when things fall apart.
    What follows failed promises made by well-meaning loved ones and churches? Not only the despair of the loss (the death, failed marriage, etc.) but also the despair that the whole system upon which one believes in God does not work.
    Friday’s closing episode of this series is a tender conversation about parenting on the edge. Chris and Valerie talk about fears that they have or have overcome in raising their children on the edge, knowing that others may well see them and/or their children as failures on the Mormon scoreboard.Info on how to subscribe to listen to Friday’s episode is directly below. See you there!
    Helpful podcast-related resources:

    • ⁠Living on the Inside of the Edge: A Survival Guide⁠⁠, Christian Kimball


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    155: LDS Church as Neither Magic Kingdom nor Evil Empire w/ Christian Kimball Sep 11, 2023
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    Series Title: “On the Inside of the Edge” Exploration w/ Christian Kimball [Part I of IV]
    Welcome to the first of a WONDERFUL four-part mini series with guest Christian Kimball, author of the beautiful book Living on the Inside of the Edge.

    In today’s episode Chris and Val will focus on the topic of how prone we as Latter Day Saints (as are others in early stage spiritual and psychological development) are to think in BINARIES: good/bad, right/wrong, in/out.

    Their invitation is to break out of binary-thinking and begin to see your relationship with the church on your own terms, emphasizing that your relationship with your current spiritual practice WILL CHANGE, because our life’s experiences change us all.

    In Friday’s episode Val and Chris focus on finally *truly* growing up in our relationship with the church! This episode digs into the concept of obtaining a differentiated [read: adult-to -adult] relationship with the church and how this adult-to-adult dynamic might look on the ground in real life relationships, especially with your bishop.

    Helpful podcast-related resources:

    • Living on the Inside of the Edge: A Survival Guide, Christian Kimball⁠


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    153: The State of LDS Faith Crisis Ten Years Post 2014 Official “Faith Crisis Report” Research Sep 04, 2023
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    Series Title: Valerie’s 2023 Sunstone Symposium Address [Part I of II]
    In the next two episodes Valerie will share with you her findings following hundreds of intense hours working with members of the LDS church in faith and trust crisis this past year since she opened up her first growth, processing, and support groups as a trauma therapist serving her own faith community.

    These observations might be of particular interest as they come exactly 10 years following the creation of an exhaustive report (linked in full below) created for (then President) Dieter F. Uchtdorf as a way to help LDS general authorities better understand the nature of the suffering of so many members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in faith and trust crises.

    Valerie’s analysis in this episode and Friday’s episodes covers the following (among other things):

    • The current main causes of LDS faith and trust crisis
    • The emergence of some issues in 2023 that were less prominent in 2013
    • What people in faith and trust crisis generally are experiencing from a psychological perspective
    • The relational suffering of those in LDS faith and trust crisis due to the standard rhetoric about “those who doubt”
    • The psychological interventions that Valerie uses to help people heal from the trauma of faith and trust crisis
    • How people look and feel as they heal from this experience both in relationship to themselves, others, and the LDS church

    Valerie feels a deep personal commitment to help each person who comes to this platform. Thank you for trusting this platform as you work through this challenging but ultimately rewarding experience of spiritual growth!
    Faith Crisis Report: https://faenrandir.github.io/a_careful_examination/documents/faith_crisis_study/Faith_Crisis_R28e.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0HEjV8dDVB9J1__x6ISIgHBRFw5TL06l-mr38edrjdAqbVZbp7Ox2ZvuU&fs=e&s=cl&fs=e&s=cl


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    151: In Search of Mother God w/ Carol Lynn Pearson Aug 28, 2023
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    Series Title: Tribute to Carol Lynn Pearson's Groundbreaking Play "Mother Wove with Morning" [Part I of II]
    Following last week’s deep dive into the talk “To the Mothers in Zion”, you are likely struck by the need to better understand the fraught roll of women in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in the 20th and 21st century.

    However, the struggle to understand the unequal status of women is not just an LDS in nature. It is MUCH bigger than that. And it is deeply connected to the loss of our collective knowledge of the feminine divine.

    This is what this week’s Latter Day Struggles episodes plans to explore.

    And who better to take us on this journey than own beloved poet laureate, author, and feminist extraordinaire—Carol Lynn Pearson.

    The specific topic of this two-episode series is Carol Lynn’s one-woman play titled “Mother Wove the Morning”.

    In Carol Lynn’s typically beautiful and dramatic way, we learn all about women throughout the ages their ongoing search for the divine face of God.

    Monday’s episode offers context to the creation of this play—her personal experiences that led up to the realization of this idea, where, how, when it was performed and how it was received.

    She shares her experience deciding to address the feminine divine in an era where feminist and heavenly mother scholarship was under the critical scrutiny from the leadership of the church and how she decided to answer the call notwithstanding the risks.

    In Friday’s episode Carol Lynn will delight us all with an overview of the cast of characters whom she selected to perform through her and actually performs a portion of the play for us all to enjoy!

    If you loved the little portion that you heard on the podcast, don’t hesitate to go to her website carollynnpearson.com and buy the entire play and the book that goes with it. It is time for a resurrection of this amazing one-woman play in the ongoing celebration of the feminine face of God with whom so many of us are finding deep connection.


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    149: Sociopolitical Forces that Led to Ezra Taft Benson's "To the Mothers in Zion" Aug 21, 2023
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    Series Title: Analysis of Ezra Taft Benson's "To the Mothers in Zion" Infamous Address [Part I of II]
    This week on Latter Day Struggles we are diving into an address that rocked the worlds of many women in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The talk? “To the Mother’s in Zion” given by Ezra Taft Benson clear back in 1987. This talk became a sort of priesthood-directed “Mormon motherhood position statement” for all women of the church for several decades.

    To say the very least, it made its mark on thousands of women during this era and beyond.

    In today’s episode Valerie offers a truckload of VERY SIGNIFICANT context that will help each of us better understand the reasons for this heavy-handed mandate for women to stay in the home. Some of the context addressed in this episode includes:

    • Historical issues that informed Benson’s stance (the Red Scare, the sexual revolution, the feminist movement, the civil rights movement)
    • The LDS church’s longing to achieve “in-group” status with the Christin conservative Right after a century of polygamy-induced shunning
    • The LDS church’s commitment to codified gender roles in an effort prevent the spread of homosexuality
    • Benson’s own involvement in the ultra-conservative John Birch Society

    In FRIDAY’S episode, Valerie and friend and colleague Julie Hanks together walk through their own formative years as LDS girls and how this talk impacted them personally. They also jump into the address itself and talk about several sections from a psychological, spiritual, and relational health standpoint. Link to "To the Mother's of Zion" talk: https://emp.byui.edu/satterfieldb/pdf/tomothersofzion.pdf



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    147: Protecting Those on the Margins Out Loud Aug 14, 2023
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    Series Title: How & Why Power Hierarchies Were Created [Part V of VI]
    In today’s and Friday’s (final) episode of this series we will be covering several recommendations given by the brilliant scholar Gerta Lerner on how we as individuals within our own systems can break down hierarchical systems of oppression.

    The recommendations explored today are as follows:

    1. Accept differences in others. Don’t just tolerate them. Val and Nathan go into some detail about how this might look on the group within the culture and theology of the LDS church.
    2. Once we acknowledge, honor, and accept the differences of unique others in our individual relationships, allow them to be a complex composite of a a multitude of characteristics (not simply a representative of their grouping that makes them different).
    3. Although we enjoy these loved ones in 1:1 situations and don’t focus on their differences, we DO NOT “move on” in social situations where institutionalized marginalization is taking place. ***Tune in for much more on this topic!
    4. Personally notice when we move into stigmatizing others. Val and Nathan talk about how this is such a human self-preserving temptation.

    FRIDAY’S final episode of this series breaks down the last few recommendations that we can each integrate into our own growth journeys as we endeavor to become more and more capable of truly loving our fellow humans. Books referenced in this episode:

    • Decolonizing Mormonism, edited by Gina Colvin
    • Universal Christ, by Richard Rohr


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    145: When & Why Diverse People Becomes Marginalized Aug 07, 2023
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    Series Title: How & Why Power Hierarchies Were Created [Part III of VI]
    Welcome to part three of this diving into why and how human beings create hierarchies of power. So far in this series we have explained the psychological phenomenon itself, zoomed in on how this plays out on the ground in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and now we are going to spend the next two episodes walking through the six-step process of how humans create those groupings whom we choose to dominate, subjugate, and marginalize.

    This episode tackles in detail the first three steps:

    1. Mark the difference in a group of people who are unlike yourself.
    2. Stigmatize the difference.
    3. Institutionalize the discrimination practiced against the group.

    FRIDAY’S episode four tackles steps 4-6.

    In these next two episodes (today’s and Fridays) Val and Nathan will offer both historical and current examples of how each of these steps in the creation of marginalized “out-group” populations looks both within the LDS faith and in other contexts.

    Get ready to have your mind further expanded.

    Referenced in this series: Living with History: Making Social Change by Gerta Lerner

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    143: How & Why Some People Oppress Others Jul 31, 2023
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    Series Title: How & Why Power Hierarchies Were Created [Part I of VI]
    In this mini-series Val and Nathan will be covering in-depth one of Val’s recent Sunstone Symposium presentations exploring the psychology around human civilization’s tendency to organize themselves into hierarchies. These hierarchies consist of an empowered group whose authority is dictated by selecting a different group over whom they dominate. These disempowered groups are sometimes called “out-groups” or “deviant others”.

    In Episode 1 of this series Val and Nathan will explore why collectives organize themselves into a dominating few who find identity in their rule over designated disempowered out-groups, how those in power use differences in others to dominate them, how some disempowered ‘out groups’ are common throughout time and place [gender, class, race], and how unique out-groups are arbitrarily selected within micro-cultures.

    This Friday’s episode Val and Nathan will discuss how this concept applies to hierarchical structures in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, both through macro-issues such as their historical and current struggles with institutional patriarchy, racism, and issues around disempowering gender and sexual minorities.

    Their desire in shining a light on this phenomenon in this series is to help our community root out the multiple layers of hierarchy to create a community bonded not by the division between powerful in-groups and powerless out-groups, but by equality and Christ-like love.

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