Brett & Emily, leaders of the organization, Jesus Said Love, talk openly about their experiences working with those impacted by the commercial sex industry.
EP14 | Angela Beeler & Catherine Ballas: Behind the Curtain of REFIT
May 28, 2019
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We believe that the heart is more than a muscle. That a person is more than a body. That relationships are as important as results. We believe fitness isn’t just for the fit...it’s for the willing.
Angela is an Enneagram 8 who loves good food, chunky babies and great fitness...in that order. With over 8 years of professional experience in the fitness industry, Angela is passionate about seeing people live their best lives as the best version of themselves. Angela enjoys long walks in the park, a good glass of prosecco and leaving voice memos at all hours of the day. Her REFIT contributions include strategic vision/planning, instructor training and development, product creation, and marketing. She is also a self-professed hotel snob due to her love of fluffy bathrobes and fancy toiletries.
You may recognize Catherine from Season 5 Episode 15 of HGTV's Fixer Upper, but her real passion is living life as her alter ego, “DJ CAPPS.” Catherine desires to inspire people to live to their fullest potential, and she occasionally attempts this by impersonating Michael Jackson. Catherine holds a degree in Film & Digital Media and also holds an extensive library of 90’s rap lyrics in her head. Her REFIT contributions include strategic vision, cultural development, business partnerships, product development, and all the things. Catherine is an Enneagram 1, loves food, adventure, good conversation, and hilarious people.
EP13 | "Linda" : This is What I See Part 2
May 21, 2019
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EP12 | Facing Failure
May 06, 2019
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Join Brett & Emily as they discuss failure including a few recent experiences in their own lives.
EP11 | What Is Sex Exploitation?
Apr 15, 2019
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Brett & Emily take a deeper dive into sex exploitation hoping to bring language and understanding around this issue.
EP10 | "Linda": This is What I See
Apr 09, 2019
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Join Brett and Emily as they have a honest conversation on addiction. Emily interviews a dear friend who is headed to rehab.
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EP9 | Sex Work & Parenting Part 2
Apr 01, 2019
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Brett & Emily talk about parenting while working with those in the sex industry. They cover topics including:
How did you tell your kids about what you do?
What they learned about parenting from those in the industry
Open communication about porn
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Article Emily references on technology and the poor. Click Here.
EP8 | Sex Work & Parenting Part 1
Mar 25, 2019
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Brett & Emily talk about parenting while working with those in the sex industry. They cover topics including:
How did you tell your kids about what you do?
What they learned about parenting from those in the industry
Open communication about porn
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Article Emily references on technology and the poor. Click Here.
EP7 | Propaganda: You Go Where Rap Is
Mar 18, 2019
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A day after his performance at SXSW in Austin, TX, Prop visits with Brett & Emily about faith, music, and coming to Waco.
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About Propaganda
IT ALL STARTED WHEN…
Propaganda’s music is about both divergence and connection. The rapper, raised and bred in Los Angeles, sees the intersection of all things and celebrates it in each song. His music is like the man himself, the result of many elements coming together.
Propaganda grew up in a working class black family in a mostly Latino neighborhood of LA. His dad brought home a new record every week and soul music and hip-hop blared through the house as Latin-inspired tunes blared outside. There was a sense of multiculturalism from the very beginning and Prop saw how one person’s problem could very similar to that of another person, no matter their surface differences. His dad was a Black Panther, which also inspired the rapper’s worldview. “I saw this black brilliance and innovation of people of color as I was growing up,” he notes. “It was so much more intriguing than slanging on the corner. I fell in love with hip-hop really young. For me, that was the origin of wanting to create music.”
He wasn’t sure music could be a career, though, so Prop went to college and graduated with degrees in illustration and intercultural studies. He spent six years teaching high school and had a hand in founding two charter schools in LA, one of which had a focus on the arts. Music lingered, despite any other successes, and Propaganda joined up with hip-hop collective the Tunnel Rats. By 2007, he quit teaching to pursue music full-time and began touring as a solo artist. He joined the Humble Beast family and unveiled a series of four albums that put his music on the map. Propaganda’s 2014 album, Crimson Cord, was released for free, but still managed to top several Billboard Charts. He’s toured with krs-one, Murs, De La Soul and Lecrae, and played Warped Tour, Rock The Bells and Smokeout Festival. And now Propaganda is ready to take his songs to the next level with Crooked, his fifth solo album.
Crooked is the result of two years worth of writing and recording, much of which was done in Portland. Unlike on previous albums, Prop wrote and rewrote and then rewrote again. He focused on each track to ensure that the messages were conveyed in the most effective and compelling way possible, and enlisted the help of the Humble Beast crew, as well as Copeland’s Aaron Marsh, during the recording. “It took a long time,” Propaganda admits. “But this is probably the best record I’ve made because I had so long to do it.”
The album draws its name from the idea that we’re all working towards perfection in an imperfect way. It’s about the idea of a crooked individual who has crooked relationship inside of a crooked system set up by crooked people for crooked gain, where everyone longing for a day when the crooked is made straight. It’s only in his faith and belief in an eventual day of reckoning that the individual finds solace. That theme is explored in the songs, which also grapple with Standing Rock, white supremacy, the patriarchy and self-hate within the black community. It all ties together in the subject of intersectionality, a concept used to describe the ways that oppressive systems are all connected and cannot be dealt with individuality. Prop was inspired by watching his wife, a first generation Mexican woman, face misogyny and sexism. He saw parallels to his own struggles as a black man and wanted to discuss that in his music.
“This year I’ve been interested in interlocking systems of injustice,” Propaganda says. “That’s where my head has been. I’ve watched my wife run so hard into patriarchal systems and seen the misogyny she’s dealt with. It’s made me realize how overlapping our issues are. In my life I watch all these overlaps and I wanted to step into that space talk about how we’re all connected. And I know I’m indicted in all these structures I’m trying to take down. I talk about patriarchy and misogyny, but I know I still benefit from being a guy. I need to own that. On this album I’m exploring a lot of ideas, including my relationship to my wife and two kids and how to love them better.”
For Propaganda, art is the essence of everything. It represents the mouth of the river from which all of human culture flows, and it’s important to him to address it at its source. Crooked takes on a lot of big ideas and deals with issues that have no easy solution. But it asks questions and seeks a response from its listener, encouraging a dialogue that hopefully will incite tangible change.
“I believe in art for art’s sake,” Prop says. “I think art is what makes us human. I believe art actually shapes and gives commentary to the human experience. That belief has never changed for me. But my music has evolved. I see music as my native tongue, but I continue to ask myself how I should convey my ideas best with art. How do I get to the top of culture and shape it there?”
Propaganda’s ideas stem from where he sits at the intersection. He sees how cultures cross and inspire one another, and he knows that we are all connected. He’s worked with church leaders to discuss race relations in America, spoken out in meetings about global hunger and talked to politicians about police reform. He’s a degree or two of separation away from the who’s who of the LA hip-hop scene and he knows how all those career paths cross and diverge. For Prop, music is way to create conversations about bigger things that impact us on a daily basis and to see how faith can help guide us along the way. Crooked is the spark for a much larger fire.
“It’s hip-hop, but it’s bigger than hip-hop,” the rapper says. “Everything I’ve done and everything I’ve experienced shows up in my music. It’s why my music takes the shape that it takes and why it is relatable to a variety of people.”
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