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    Invest Like the Best with Patrick O’Shaughnessy

    Conversations with the best investors and business leaders in the world. We explore their ideas, methods, and stories to help you better invest your time and money. Hear stock market and boardroom insights you can’t find anywhere else. If you’re a professional investor, CEO, entrepreneur, or business strategist, this is for you. Explore all our episodes and learn more at https://www.colossus.com

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    Vaughn Tan – Quality and Innovation - [Invest Like the Best, EP.150] Dec 03, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest today is Vaughn Tan, who studies quality, innovation, and organizational behavior. His resume is bonkers. He’s a PhD from Harvard, Was an infantry signals logistician in the Republic of Singapore Army, then worked at Google on advertising, Earth, Maps, spaceflight, and Fusion Tables. He’s also been a wood sculptor. But the topic of our conversation is how to foster quality and innovation in ourselves and inside of companies—lessons he learned in part by studying inside some of the world’s best restaurants. If you enjoy this conversation, I recommend you also check out his new book, The Uncertainty Mindset Innovation Insights from the Frontiers of Food. Please enjoy my conversation with Vaughn Tan.

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

    Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub.

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    Show Notes

    1:33 - (First Question) – Interesting ways to identify high quality

    5:06 – The current problem with the way we think about the world

    8:56 – How people think about their careers and college

    11:21 – Uncertainty vs risk, and productive discomfort

    19:08 – Cultivation of discomfort for an individual

    24:05 – Successful innovation cultures

    32:25 – Analyzing quality and restaurant bread

    37:43 – The Slug idea

    40:43 – His research project where he observed restaurants

    45:44 – How do people mandate their own structure in the face of uncertainty

    53:46 – How employees should approach this rent-to-buy hiring structure

    57:17 – Example of someone who took advantage of uncertainty time

    1:00:05 – Playful adults

    1:00:07 – Jerry Neumann Podcast Episode

    1:03:10 – Other changes companies can make to their culture to be more innovative

    1:08:19 – The difference between simplicity and complexity

    1:11:12 – How he applies his thinking into several different ideas, like Cannabis

    1:16:17 – Asking the right question

    1:19:05 – Andy Rachleff Podcast Episode

    1:20:19 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Vaughn

    Learn More

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    Gavin Baker – Tech and Consumer Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.149] Nov 26, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest this week is Gavin Baker, the founder, and manager of Atreides Management. I met Gavin in the same way I meet many of the most interesting people, on twitter. His focus is on consumer and technology growth investing, which is the topic of our conversation. We discuss many of the largest trends in these sectors, several fascinating investment cases, and also explore the videogame industry in detail—which I found especially interesting. Please enjoy my conversation with Gavin Baker.

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    Show Notes

    1:16 – (first question) – His unique view on the markets

    4:00 – Distilling Apple as a growth investment

    6:44 – What is the most important lever for Apple looking forward

    9:01 – His view on Intel

    11:03 – Most important technological changes that may dictate his investing strategy

    16:20 – How do you look at a big idea, like AR, and then apply to an individual business

    18:21 – Fortnite isn't a game, it's a place

    18:26– Fortnite Is the Future, but Probably Not for the Reasons You Think

    18:56 – His insight into video games and their ability to control attention

    28:36 – How do you invest in the gaming sector

    40:06 – Favorite video games

    32:07 – Why gaming and customer sector allows him to find Alpha richness

    34:17 – Being in the top 1% of knowledge before investing in a company

    36:24 – His view on value investing today and, in the future,

    41:15 – Increase of regulatory capture

    42:01 – Headwinds to the tech companies today

    43:50 – Thoughts on the Chinese internet market and how it impacts US markets

    45:36 – How often companies look at China for ideas

    46:21 – Role of alternative data in his process

    49:36 – Big trends today we should be paying attention to

    54:20 – the most interesting company he does not own

    58:48 – Advice for new investors

    1:00:17 – Non-obvious tech resources - TechMeme

    1:00:50 – Favorite sci-fi character

    1:01:19 – Kindest thing anyone has done for him

    Learn More

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    All opinions expressed by Patrick and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of O'shaughnessy asset management. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Clients of O'shaughnessy asset management may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast. Clients of the podcast guest’s firm may also maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast.


    Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger – How to Build a Great Product Nov 19, 2019
    Show notes

    My guests this week are Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger, the co-founders of Instagram. I met Kevin and Mike a few months ago over a shared interest in business and investing. I have found them both to be extremely good people who have a rare talent for finding and solving interesting problems. Indeed, problem-solving and jobs-to-be-done is a big part of our conversation. I realized walking into the podcast that Kevin and Mike have a rare set of experiences: having both built and sold an extremely successful product from scratch, but then also operated and scaled inside one of the largest businesses in the world. This means they have unique knowledge to offer just about anyone interested in business and products. We dig into all those lessons here. I am working on hosting more founders and CEOs on the podcast, and can’t think of a better pair to show you why I want to do so. Please enjoy my conversation with Kevin and Mike.

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    Show Notes

    1:38 – (first question) – Projects they’ve been working on since leaving Instagram

    5:22 – How they can apply what they are learning in machine learning

    7:18 – Most interesting experience diving back into data and machine learning

    8:42 – How startups compare today to when they founded Instagram

    13:23 – Judging founders and whether they know how to use their data effectively

    14:26 – The jobs-to-be-done framework

    19:14 – Laying out a vision vs solving problems that pop up

    25:20 – Developing and sharing the principles of the company with the team

    30:48 – Creating a community when it includes almost the entire world

    39:03 – The most popular ways people used the platform

    41:24 – What was the jobs-to-be-done rational behind the stories feature

    44:15 – Interesting things that they saw as Instagram entered the developing world

    46:40 – Their thoughts on how Instagram shaped culture and if they focused on those

    52:58 – The new waves that they are observing right now

    55:11 – How their thinking on leadership and teams changed during their time at Instagram and Facebook

    1:03:23 – The pillars of a good business, including humility and confidence

    1:06:06 – Focus on growth and distribution in a startup

    1:10:01 – How early were they thinking about monetization on this free platform

    1:13:43 – How do they think about how they invest their money and allocate resources

    1:17:36 – Mentors for Kevin and Mike

    1:20:30 – Their passion for learning to fly and the someday/maybe list

    1:23:01 – Their interest in coffee

    1:26:24 – Advice for everyone else

    1:30:00 – Kindest thing anyone has done for them

    Learn More

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    Daniel Ek – The Future of Audio - [Invest Like the Best, EP.147] Nov 12, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest this week is Daniel Ek, the founder and CEO of Spotify.

    In my conversations with Daniel, I’ve found him to be one of the most interesting and thoughtful business leaders in the world. You’ll see what I mean as you listen to our conversation.

    We talk about Spotify plenty, but what I so enjoy about Daniel is his way of thinking in systems and frameworks. He is committed to evolution, innovation, and growth for both himself and for Spotify and is on my shortlist of CEOs to emulate.

    This was one of my favorite conversations on the podcast, I hope you enjoy it.

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    Show Notes

    1:21 – (first question) – Management lessons from a Dubai chocolate maker

    4:54 – Trends shaping the business landscape today: globalization, automation, and digitation

    7:51 – How he thinks about the vertical integration of his business and scale

    10:37 – Are companies doing a good job adjusting to the changes in the global business landscape

    14:44 – How does Spotify view scale moving forward

    17:59 – What trends has he seen among creators as a result of the Spotify platform

    20:32 – The community benefit that has been created by the platform

    23:47 – Intimacy of audio

    25:31 – Creating an environment that continues to spur innovation

    29:12 – Star vs constellation business strategy

    32:21 – Measuring network health

    35:12 – Spotify Originals and what his competition in the video market is doing

    39:36 – How podcasts play into the growth strategy

    43:04 – How did he solve the problem of competing with free

    47:21 – Is their strategy repeatable, going after fractured suppliers

    49:02 – Role of the CEO in a startup

    51:22 – Others who have taught him great business lessons

    53:18 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Daniel

    Learn More

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    George Rzepecki – Investing in Africa - [Invest Like the Best, EP.146 Nov 05, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest this week is George Rzepecki, the found and managing partner Raba, an Africa focused investment firm. George is making investments across Africa in early-stage companies. Africa represents a fascinating opportunity: a huge and diverse population and enormous room for per capita GDP growth. We cover all aspects of investing in the continent, including unique potential rewards and risks.

    Please enjoy our conversation.

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

    Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub.

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    Show Notes

    1:18 – (first question) – Interest in emerging markets and the tech landscape in Africa

    4:57 – Similarities across all of the different metro markets across Africa

    8:05 – Why has the continent lagged behind the rest of the world

    10:49 – What is the history and landscape of capital in the African continent

    13:32 – The market opportunity given the demographics

    15:44 – US investment/involvement in Africa

    18:06 – Kinds of companies that he likes to invest in

    23:26 – Initiatives and investments that could help lift the population out of poverty: finance

    29:33 – The public marketplace landscape in Africa

    31:49 – Capacity on the private side

    34:24 – How the valuation of deals compares to other markets

    36:13 – Unique risks in the investments they are making

    38:28 – Most exciting trends or changes he is seeing

    40:22 – The professional investor environment

    43:25 – How to learn more and get involved

    43:49 – China Africa Research Initiative

    44:17 – China Africa Project

    44:38 – Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World--and Why Things Are Better Than You Think

    Learn More

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    Chad Cascarilla – The Future of Blockchain and Financial Services - [Invest Like the Best, EP.145] Oct 29, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest today is Chad Cascarilla, the CEO and co-founder of Paxos, which describes itself as a financial technology company “mobilizing assets at the speed of the internet.“ Thanks to more than 20 years of investing and financial services experience, Chad has a unique perspective on integrating blockchain technology with traditional systems. He also has one of my favorite bitcoin origin stories, which we explore. Before Paxos, Charles co-founded institutional asset management complex Cedar Hill Capital Partners in 2005 and its blockchain-focused venture capital subsidiary, Liberty City Ventures (LCV). Our conversation is less about cryptocurrencies and more about the history, current state, and potential future states of our financial system. Please enjoy.

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    Show Notes

    1:32 - (First Question) – His work in the finance world before crypto’s

    5:12 – Experience navigating the subprime mortgage trend and what it taught him about blockchain

    9:59 – The levers that matter in the financial services industry today vs when he first started

    14:07 – Open vs closed money in financial services

    19:16 – How slowdowns are different in the modern era

    23:06 – What would lead to a major winding down of global debt

    27:09 – What would be his focus as a traditional investor

    29:21 – How he first got involved with bitcoin

    29:47 – Elliott Wave Newsletter

    31:53 – His measured view of Bitcoin and living through the volatility of it

    32:03 – Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

    35:57 – Allocation of a portfolio which includes crypto

    36:54 – His involvement and feelings on gold

    37:56 – The formation of Paxos and the problem it exists to solve

    41:34 – How Paxos is impacting the space

    44:12 – Advantages of a private blockchain

    43:59 – What is Pax Gold and how does it work

    48:53 – Bad ways and situations to own gold

    52:12 – Using a stable coin

    56:00 – Biggest problem they are working on now

    57:23 – What should people be paying attention to in the crypto currency space

    59:23 – Coindesk Research Archive

    59:39 – Has the influx of interest in crypto helped in other spaces

    1:02:11 – Other lessons people should learn from his career

    1:04:53 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Chad

    Learn More

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

    Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub

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    Bill Gurley – Direct Listing vs. IPO - [Invest Like the Best, EP.144] Sep 24, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest this week is Bill Gurley, general partner at Benchmark Capital. Our conversation is about one specific issue that has popped up as a topic of interest in the investing community in recent months: the comparison between bringing a company public through a traditional IPO vs. what’s known as a direct listing.

    As a third party observer with no real dog in the hunt (as we don’t buy IPOs at O’Shaughnessy Asset Management), I thought this was a small and nuanced issue. I’ve therefore been surprised by the strength of opinions on both sides of this issue as I’ve explored it behind the scenes this past week. It feels almost like I’ve encountered a political third rail, where one side throws a lot of vitriol towards the other.

    To be clear, this episode is very much in favor of direct listings instead of traditional IPOs. For those that want a good discussion of the IPO process and its upsides, check out episode 173 of the Exponent podcast with Ben Thompson.

    Now please enjoy my very interesting conversation with Bill Gurley

    For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.

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    Show Notes

    1:22 - (First Question) – His view on the IPO process

    5:42 – Will now be the turning point for IPO’s

    6:40 – The engagement between a new company going public and their counterparty and the IPO process

    13:38 – The math of capital costs

    18:18 – Banks that underprice the IPO’s

    20:45 – The psychology of IPO’s

    23:14 – The pop in the IPO and the media

    24:54 – The value that shareholders give vs VC’s

    25:37 – The Green Shoots

    28:17 – The lock-up

    31:40 – Direct listings vs IPO’s

    36:07 – Spotify’s CEO Reveals Why He’s Not Doing a Traditional IPO

    38:23 – The capital raised in an IPO and diluting the company

    40:18 – Privilege access and buy-side firms

    43:33 – What will actually lead to changes in the IPO space

    44:48 – Why he became so interested in the IPO space

    Learn More

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    [REPLAY] Albert Wenger - World After Capital - [Invest Like the Best, EP.80] Sep 17, 2019
    Show notes

    My guest this week is Albert Wenger, a managing partner at Union Square Ventures and the author of the book World After Capital.

    Albert studied economics at Harvard and earned a PhD in information from technology, but if you’d asked me to guess before looking those up, I’d have guessed that he studied philosophy because of how widely he has thought about the world and the impact of technology.

    Our conversation is about how technology is changing the world from an Industrial Age to a knowledge age. We explore how cryptocurrencies, low cost computing, and regulation will impact our future and why the transition may require delicate care.

    I loved this conversation because of my obsession with the concept of scarcity. We explore what has been scarce through time and what may be scarce in the future. Albert is one of the most interesting thinkers I’ve come across and was a pleasure to speak with. I hope you enjoy our conversation.

    Hash Power is presented by Fidelity Investments

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    Links Referenced

    World After Capital

    Show Notes

    2:16 – (First Question) – Defining what it means to be human

    2:58 – World After Capital

    3:56 – Trans-humans vs neo-humans

    4:37 – The concept of Qualia

    5:25 – Albert’s investment philosophy=

    8:27 – How Albert began his exploration into cryptocurrencies

    12:59 – Most exciting things blockchains could enable

    14:27 – How does Albert view blockchain technology from the view of an venture capital investor

    17:00 - Why Albert thinks that the dominate cryptocurrency of our time may not exist just yet and what he is looking for in protocols that will become the leader in the space

    20:16 – What are the central functions that will be important in cryptocurrencies

    21:22 - The state of regulation in the cryptocurrency space

    27:37 – What has Albert most excited for the future of blockchain

    29:10 – The idea of universal basic income

    32:26 – How do you solve the problem of giving money value in a world of universal basic income

    35:00 – How scarcity has changed over time

    39:01 – Role of financial capital in the last 200 years of civilization

    42:39 – Are we as a society only capable of solving problems once they become an immediate threat

    44:15 – Explaining the idea of attention as a scarce resource

    47:56 – The two key drivers of change; zero marginal cost distribution and universality of computational power

    53:13 - What should we as investors and inventors be focusing on as the new objective function

    57:24 – Scariest aspect of this transition into the knowledge age

    59:45 – Three basic freedoms we all seek; informational, economic, psychological

    1:02:13 – Fermi’s paradox and the scarcity of attention

    1:02:56 – How Albert thinks about his own day and wellbeing given all of this information

    1:05:01 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Albert

    Learn More

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    [REPLAY] Deep Basin – Earning Alpha in Energy - [Invest Like the Best, EP.81] Sep 11, 2019
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    My guest this week are Matt Smith and Ian singer of Deep Basin Capital, a hedge fund specializing in the energy sector.

    I first met Matt almost 10 years and, in that time, I’ve grown to respect him as much as any investor that I’ve ever met. Now having spent time with Ian, who specializes in oil and gas field exploration companies and the rest of the Deep Basin team, I have similar respect and admiration for all of them.

    Deep Basin does almost the exact opposite of what us quants do. In fact, their entire goal is to build a portfolio of mostly idiosyncratic or stock specific risk, the very thing us quants mostly remove from portfolios. Deep Basin positions the portfolio to make a series of carefully constructed bets, long and short, without taking market risk, style-factor risk, or even commodity risk. They use a hybrid fundamental and quantitative process which we explore in detail. This is definitely another good example of who we are all up against in public markets.

    What makes this story unique is that we are investors in Deep Basin’s management company and so have a clear interest in their ongoing success. Listeners know that I want to be as transparent as possible on this podcast so we event spend a little time telling the story about how it all came together a few years ago.

    I have learned a ton about investing from my countless hours with this team and hope that this conversation gives you a glimpse into what is happening at the cutting edge of investing in the world of hedge funds.

    Please enjoy my conversation with Deep Basin

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    Books Referenced

    Expectations Investing: Reading Stock Prices for Better Returns

    Show Notes

    2:47 – (First Question) – Looking at the universe of the energy space that they are focusing on

    7:48 – Breaking down the important components and their labels in this space

    10:27 – What makes energy companies distinct from the broader market.

    12:52 – How the isolate unique value creation

    14:58 – Ian’s take on the upstream part of the business where he has spent a lot of time

    18:35 – How does Deep Basin use data and what edge do they derive from it.

    21:31 – What insight are they looking for from updated well data

    23:59 – How do they use combine the business value that they measure with the market price that is being forecasted

    24:40 – Expectations Investing: Reading Stock Prices for Better Returns

    29:34 – How do they build an actual portfolio

    31:51 – Their systematic approach to energy investing

    37:53 – What are their thoughts about using leverage when making investments in the energy space

    40:53 – A look at the changes to the hedge fund industry over the entirety of their careers

    45:46 – Defining the culture of Deep Basin

    49:15 – The story of how OSAM and the O’Shaughnessy’s came to be investors in the Deep Basin

    54:13 – Kindest thing anyone has done for each of them

    Learn More

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    [REPLAY] Pat Dorsey - Buying Companies With Economic Moats - [Invest Like the Best, EP.51] Aug 27, 2019
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    My guest this week is Pat Dorsey, who was the longtime director of equity research at Morningstar, where he specialized in economic moats: sources of sustained competitive advantage that allow a few companies to deliver huge returns over time. Several years ago he left Morningstar to form his own asset management firm, Dorsey asset management, and build a portfolio of companies with wide moats like those he studied at Morningstar. And while moats are critical, equally important is how companies allocate the capital generated--or made possible--by the existence of the moat.

    A special thank you to Brian Bares who introduced me to Pat, and to Will Thorndike--an earlier guest on the show. In the vast majority of conversations you hear on this show, I'm meeting the guest for the first time. I mention this to encourage you to connect me with anyone whose story or way of looking at the world might resonate. Always feel free to contact me with ideas.

    Pat and I begin our discussion with the key differences between the sell side and the buy side, and then discuss all aspects of moats and capital allocation.

    For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/dorsey

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    Show Notes

    2:23 – (First question) – Transition from the sell side to the buy side and the biggest surprise

    3:40 – What is a moat

    5:16 – What part of the stock market universe has a moat

    6:57 – Pat’s framework for identifying moat, starting with intangibles

    8:32 – The power of brands

    9:44 – what chance does an upstart have to come in and usurp a well-established brand

    12:24 – Switching costs as part of the framework for identifying a moat

    14:55 – The third component of identifying a moat, network effects, and what businesses should do to effectively build one

    17:29 – Last component, cost advantages/economies of scale

    19:29 – How do you analyze these four components into an investing framework that can be built into an actual strategy

    21:13 – How does Pat think about this from a mis-pricing standpoint

    23:37 – How does Pat incorporate current price of a company in consideration for future returns when pricing a moat

    25:39 – How should a company with a moat operate to protect that characteristic, especially when it comes to their capital allocation

    26:51 – Which characteristic of a moat does Pat find most intriguing

    30:35 – What makes for good and smart capital allocation

    35:58 – What is Pat’s process for identifying the best investment opportunities

    38:38 – What are good economics when looking at a company

    41:03 – If Pat could take any business, but have to swap leadership, what would he choose.

    44:13 – Back to his process of finding investment opportunities

    46:05 – Kindest thing anyone has ever done for Pat

    Learn More

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