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    Insight Out : Big Ideas, Decoded

    Insight Out investigates the ideas shaping business, psychology, leadership, culture, and human behavior.

    Why can a constraint become an advantage? What does first-principles thinking actually mean? Can belonging change behavior? What makes a legacy last?

    Across candid conversations with founders, leaders, creators, and experts, along with research-driven stories that dig into the evidence, history, contradictions, and people behind an idea, Insight Out goes beyond the obvious explanation to understand why something works, where it breaks, and what’s actually worth taking with you.

    Hosted by Billy Samoa Saleebey, entrepreneur, former Tesla leader, and filmmaker.

    Follow Insight Out if you’re curious about the ideas shaping how we build, lead, create, change, and live.

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    From 70K to 30M - The Dugout Mugs Story with CEO Kris Dehnert Sep 08, 2023
    Show notes

    The dash. That tiny line between the day you enter and the day we depart this life. It’s a tiny line, but make no mistake about it, finding the meaning within it is the most powerful thing you’ll ever do. Today, we spend time with Kris Dehnert, a man who truly understands the value of time and how to get the most out of it.

    Kris is a self-described grinder and successful serial entrepreneur who began honing his immense business chops at a young age. He’s also a master marketer and communicator who understands which questions to ask to unlock the doors that turn a small idea into a big deal. Kris is the CEO and Co-Founder of Dugout Mugs; an innovative company that sells baseball bat drinking mugs that has taken the sports world by storm.

    The road Kris has taken to success has not always been easy, but he’s grateful for the lessons he learned along the way. The beauty of his journey is that he has held on to those lessons and now freely shares them with others, looking to unlock the vast potential that lives inside! He’s an entrepreneur, a father, husband, and a true inspiration. If you’re stuck in a rut, trying to cut through the noise and figure out how to get aligned, and make your next move your best one yet, pull up a seat because this episode is for you!

    In this episode, you’ll learn the following:

    · Where the drive to tap into his potential began and the origins of his work ethic. (4:00).

    · What got you here, won’t take you there. (9:00).

    · How Kris leverages his superpowers to drive success for him and others. (13:32)

    · Kris discusses The Warrior Phase of Life. – (18:53).

    · Going all-in and making the move for Dugout Mugs. (23:07).

    · The value of knowing your lane and driving in only your lane. – (27:09).

    · The art of showing up with the intention of being memorable. (34:00).

    · Why painting the picture of your corporate vison matters. (42:50).

    · Kris discusses the importance of time and making the most of it. (50:50).

    · The power of operating and living in alignment consistently. (51:53).

    · The illusion of time and money. (54:33).

    · The next BIGG thing for Kris. (57:11).

    · Why focusing on your weaknesses is bad advice. (59:11).

    · Finding and celebrating your win. (1:02:52)


    Notable Quotes:

    · “In a world that’s packed full of nothing but laziness and excuses right now, it’s the truth. I wasn’t raised that way.” - Kris

    · “You’re kind of born with the entrepreneurial spirit”. – Kris

    · “Down the road isn’t always that far down the road”. – Kris

    · “You need to be important to who’s important.” – Kris

    · Good day with bad people still sucks. A bad day with good people is still fun. And if you have a good day with good people, bro, that’s gold!” – Kris

    · “So many people choose to do the things that make them miserable, and they become resentful.” – Billy

    · “I act because I believe, I belong there.” – Kris

    · “Give direction, not directions.” – Kris

    · “When it’s all said and done the one great equalizer that we all have is time.” - Billy

    Resources and Links

    Insight Out

    · Insight Out Show – Website

    · Insight Out Show - Linkedin

    · Insight Out Show – Patreon

    Kris Dehnert

    · Kris Dehnert – Linkedin

    · Dugout Mugs – Website

    · Dugout Mugs - Facebook

    · Dugout Mugs - Instagram

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    Brewing Success: From Barista to Owner of Biggby Coffee With Mike McFall Sep 01, 2023
    Show notes

    After starting as a barista in 1996 to becoming the co-founder, owner, and Co-CEO of Biggby Coffee, this week’s guest on Insight Out is Mike McFall, a growth-minded entrepreneur that believes in the power of self-awareness, positivity, and conscious capitalism as the core values of a successful business.

    His book, Grind: A No-Bullshit Approach to Take Your Business from Concept to Cash Flow, focuses on the importance of revenue and practical ways to build cash flow in a budding company. He also explores his philosophy that business requires us to be aggressive and simultaneously self-aware.

    In this episode, Mike and I discuss the road to becoming CEO of a successful corporation, why conscious capitalism and company culture are at the core of employee retention, why focus is a critical component in building a business, and more.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • The key lessons that sailing around the world at 16 taught Mike (3:40)
    • Mike’s journey as a Red Wings fan and the importance of visioning work (5:43)
    • A breakdown of the visualization process (10:06)
    • How Mike was introduced to conscious capitalism and the way it transformed his business (13:10)
    • How Mike became partners with Bob Fish (23:44)
    • The importance of competition in business (27:28)
    • Why self awareness is a critical component of your business (29:43)
    • How to ask for valuable feedback (33:10)
    • The biggest contributor to Biggby Coffee’s success (35:41)
    • Mike’s advice for aspiring or current business owners (38:26)
    • Why entrepreneurs need to be like the sun (44:30)
    • Mike’s approach to fostering a people-first company (48:07)
    • How to develop company culture that respects the employees (51:37)
    • Where to find Mike McFall and his final word of advice (56:35)


    Notable Quotes:

    • “When you say something enough, you begin to hear yourself say it, other people hear you say it, and they can support you. And it helps to reaffirm that you’re on the course to go where you want to go.” – Billy (9:26)
    • “The real root of conscious capitalism is that it’s an inclusive environment where you don’t make tradeoffs between these different components and that you make decisions that everyone benefits from.” – Mike (20:29)
    • “Your self awareness is the most critical component to the success of your business.” – Mike (30:31)
    • “In the end it’s not about revenue. What it’s about is it’s about improving, and it’s an obsession with improvement. And when we obsess with improvement… the revenue generation, the growth, is a subset of the obsession with improvement.” – Mike (42:34)
    • “Leadership is about setting the example and then living within that constantly.” – Mike (47:16)
    • “In the end, people just want to be around other people who they relate to and they feel a connection to as another human being.” (59:19)


    Resources & Links:

    Mike McFall

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-biggby

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikejmcfall

    Biggby Coffee: https://www.biggby.com/

    Billy Samoa Saleebey

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billysamoa

    Email: billy@podify.com and saleebey@gmail.com

    Insight Out

    Website: https://insightoutshow.com/

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on December 30, 2022

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    How to Elevate Your Communication With David JP Phillips Aug 25, 2023
    Show notes

    Just like every great recipe, captivating communication requires some spice! And who better to teach us that than world-renowned communication and public speaking expert, David JP Phillips?

    David has spent his career researching and building a business on the art of communication and presentation, but his expertise goes beyond these practical skills that allow us to succeed in professional settings. He’s also dedicated to helping others apply these techniques on a personal level so that we can improve our relationships, exert control over our emotions, find our sense of happiness, and foster great empathy.

    With his three widely-recognized TED Talks, “The Magical Science of Storytelling,” “How to Avoid Death by PowerPoint,” and “The 110 Techniques of Communication and Public Speaking,” he is reforming our understanding of communication and simultaneously eliminating antiquated notions about storytelling.

    His journey is certainly one of dedication and perseverance, and as he discusses the scientific and psychological sides of expression and communication, the impact of his wife’s stroke, and how he rebuilt his company from nothing, you will walk away from this episode feeling both inspired and ready to tackle your day.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    • Why The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy helps fuel David’s creativity (4:36)
    • The art of adding spice to your presentation (6:57)
    • The transformative power of happiness and the difference between internal and external communication (10:40)
    • The focus and importance of David’s upcoming book as well as his tip for grounding yourself in peace, gratitude, and compassion (17:30)
    • David’s experience with his wife’s stroke and the process of rebuilding his company (23:46)
    • What the somatic feedback loop is and why body language is a huge element of conversation (32:58)
    • The Five Layers of Communication and how to practice utilizing your facial expressions (36:49)
    • Why actors and comedians rate higher than other professions (38:25)
    • How YouTube forced David to adapt and grow and the #1 lesson he’s learned in the realm of public speaking (39:48)


    Notable Quotes:

    • “The perception we have of a talk is related to the number of spices in a talk. And that is what you were on to contrast and surprises.” – David (8:55)
    • Every war and every action of hatred stems from our desire to get the substances in our brain fulfilled. That’s where they come from. So yeah, if people would actually understand that they could create them by themselves without hurting and causing pain and destruction, the world would be a better place by far.” – David (20:55)
    • “It is interesting how life’s moments that are so shakingly painful can also be so important and put in perspective the few moments that we have on this ball of rock flying through the sky. We sometimes take for granted that we’re given this life.” – Billy (31:15)
    • “If you focus on performance, anxiety is its brother. If you focus on having fun, that is when you will be the best version of yourself… And in a state of having fun, we are relaxed. We get free access to our vocabulary, our thoughts…” – David (41:10)


    Resources & Links:

    David JP Phillips

    Website: https://www.davidjpphillips.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjpphillips/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidjpphillips/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/davidjpphillips

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@davidjpphillips

    HeadGain: https://www.headgain.com/

    Presenter Mastery Training: https://www.headgain.com/jp/

    Billy Samoa Saleebey

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billysamoa

    Email: billy@podify.com and saleebey@gmail.com

    Insight Out

    Website: https://insightoutshow.com/

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on December 16, 2022

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    How to Make Customers Wait in Line for Your Products With Daniel Priestley Aug 18, 2023
    Show notes

    Are you ready to use Key Person of Influence to get your business goals? This week's episode with New York Times bestselling author and leader of Dent Global, Daniel Priestley, has all the answers you need.

    Daniel Priestley is a New York Times bestselling author and the leader of Dent Global, where he and his team develop entrepreneurs to stand out, scale up, and make a positive impact. 40,000 entrepreneurs have attended his workshops around the world, and over 3000 people have taken part in his accelerator programs. Needless to say, he's making his mark by helping others make their mark.


    This is Daniel Priestley 's story...

    Daniel Priestley was working at McDonald's when he met Randy, the franchisee. Randy encouraged Daniel to look into entrepreneurship, and Daniel began reading The Emyth. This book opened the door to entrepreneurship for Daniel and made him feel that it was something he could do. Daniel went on to write several books on the subject, including Key Person of Influence and Oversubscribed. In Key Person of Influence, Daniel outlines the five Ps of becoming a key person of influence: pitching, positioning, production, promotion, and profit. By following these steps, Daniel believes that anyone can become a key person of influence in their industry.


    Tune in now to learn how to stand out, scale up, and make a positive impact!

    In this episode, you will learn the following:

    • Daniel shared what lessons he learned from Randy when he works at McDonald's (00:04:00)
    • Who a key person of influence is and why does it matter in today's world? (00:09:06)
    • The five P’s of key Person of Influence (KPI) (00:12:55)
    • The importance of pitching in enrolling people into a new way of thinking and behaving.(00:15:00)
    • The Eiffel tower analogy (00:19:56)
    • Who is a good example of a key person of influence (00:22:50)
    • Why a key person of influence, helps move a business or an organization from functionality to vitality” (00:26:24)
    • Why people are focused on the entire marketplace instead of focusing on the key few (00:32:36)
    • What is Signaling and why is it important (00:42:30)
    • The importance of having a central philosophy or mission around what you do (00:52:00)
    • What are the Four types of products.(00:55:00)
    • Why campaigning is an effective approach (00:59:40)
    • The idea that social media can be used as a tool to build a personal brand (01:07:00)


    Notable quotes:

    • “We all have the ability to make a dent and that we can do it while also having fun doing it. But we have to do it using the right strategies that will allow us to make the kind of impact that we want to make” - Billy
    • “Anyone can play an instrument. Not everyone could play an instrument well” - Billy
    • “Prolific beats perfect” - Billy
    • “When you become a key person of influence, your goal is not to try and sell you, and you don't make a lot of you're not trying to make money by selling your time and your energy and all that sort of stuff. People aren't buying you. They're actually just attracted to your business empire, and your empire sits around you” - Daniel
    • "The real skill with pitching is there's an element of leverage." - Daniel


    Resources:

    Daniel Priestley

    Website:

    Danielpriestley.com

    https://www.dent.global/

    Books: https://danielpriestley.com/daniel-priestley-books/

    Socials:

    Linkedin: Daniel Priestley

    Instagram: @danielpriestley

    Twitter: @DanielPriestley

    Facebook: Daniel Priestley

    Connect with me:

    Email Addresses: billy@podify.com and saleebey@gmail.com

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on December 9, 2022

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    How to Create an Indestructible Mindset With Ike Ikokwu Aug 11, 2023
    Show notes

    Ike Ikokwu is a best selling author, speaker, and coach.

    He helps his clients become fluent on the emotional language of money. Having made and lost millions he knows what it’s like to face adversity.

    He understands how overcome the magnetic pull of limiting beliefs from the past, and has taken action to create a financially empowered life designed around purpose.

    On the show, he walks us through 3 major life challenges he's faced and how each one gave birth to a new and improved version of himself.

    We learn:

    • About a concept called the “Law the Lid “ which determines our level of effectiveness
    • The difference between “Human being” and “Human doing”
    • The importance of knowing the "inner game", which is our mindset, and "outer game", which is what the world sees
    • How to create an indestructible mindset for what you want to do in life
    • What 2 things most control our mindset
    • Why we should remember the Law of Failure
    • Why we absolutely must embrace the differences between us


    Links and Resources:

    20:49 "Never underestimate what the human spirit can overcome"

    32:17 Winning The Money Game: Separating The Myths From The Truth

    44:06 "Money is a currency and it flowing in the hand of whoever brings value to it"

    49:25 "It is failure that helps us become the human being that we are"

    49:38 "Just keep failing forward"

    50:04 "I no longer live my life with default, I live my life by design" - Ike Ikokwu

    51:55 https://morebizgrowth-nofee.com/


    You can find Ike:

    Websites:

    https://ikeikokwu.com/

    https://www.thecoachanaireinstitute.com/?r_done=1

    https://morebizgrowth-nofee.com/

    Social Media:

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ikeikokwu/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ikeikokwu/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/IkeFICoach

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ike.ikokwu

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=23010497)

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on July 27, 2020

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    Lessons From A Social Impact Entrepreneur With Tiffany Yu Aug 04, 2023
    Show notes

    Tiffany Yu is on a mission to increase intersectional disability representation and democratize visibility. She’s a social impact entrepreneur, disability advocate, 3x TEDx speaker, and even spoke at the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos.

    At the age of 9, Tiffany became disabled as a result of a car accident that also took the life of her father.

    For 12 years she hid her disability and until finally, she decided to embrace it as her superpower. She Founded Diversability, an award-winning social enterprise to amplify disabled voices.

    She is also the host of Tiffany & Yu, the podcast.

    She is a change agent focused on building and funding the things she wished existed when she was younger.

    In this episode, we learn how she is helping to change the stigma surrounding disabilities by creating community and awareness. We also learn why disability origin stories are so powerful and why can hiding disability be harmful.

    She shares her own personal story of facing chronic exclusion, and we learn about internalized toxic positivity and internalized ableism. If you are unaware or curious about the disability movement this show is insightful and enlightening.


    Learn More From Tiffany:

    https://www.tiffanyyu.com/

    https://mydiversability.com/

    https://www.tiffanyyu.com/podcast

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=23010497)

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on June 16, 2021

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    The Common Traits of Millionaires With Jim Britt Jul 31, 2023
    Show notes

    Meet Jim Britt, a renowned international keynote speaker and one of the world's top 20 success coaches, who embodies a remarkable journey from humble beginnings to extraordinary success. Believe it or not, this self-made millionaire and best-selling author started off by working at a gas station.

    After seizing an opportunity for a business venture with only nine dollars in his pocket, Jim came out the other side with an eviction notice and not much profit. However, his life changed when one of his colleagues visited him and told him everything he was doing wrong when approaching prospective clients. Jim took his colleague's advice, and within 12 months he had hit his first million.

    In this episode, Jim reveals:

    • What it takes to have a millionaire mindset
    • Two lessons that took Jim Britt from broke to a million dollars in 12 months
    • Lessons Jim (Britt) learned from working with Jim (Rohn)
    • What Tony Robbins was like before he was famous
    • How self-observation can transform your life
    • How to break away from core beliefs that may be limiting your potential


    You can learn more from Jim:

    Website - https://jimbritt.com/

    Cracking the Rich Code Coaching Program - https://jimbrittcoaching.com/

    Social Media:

    • Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jimbritt123
    • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jimbritt.official/
    • LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-britt/
    • Twitter - https://twitter.com/JimBritt1

    Jim's Books

    • Directing the Movies in Your Subconscious Mind - https://www.amazon.com/Directing-Movies-Your-Subconscious-mind/dp/1641533625/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=directing+the+movies+in+your+subconscious+mind&qid=1624643657&sr=8-1
    • Rings of Truth - https://www.amazon.com/Rings-Truth-Jim-Britt/dp/1558747249/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rings+of+truth+jim+britt&qid=1624643720&sr=8-1

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=23010497)

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on February 22, 2021.

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    The Magic Behind Receiving With David Meltzer Jul 21, 2023
    Show notes

    David Meltzer is a three-time international best-selling author, a Top 100 Business Coach, the executive producer of Entrepreneur‘s #1 digital business show, Elevator Pitch, and host of the top entrepreneur podcast, The Playbook.

    And he’s quickly tracking towards his mission to empower OVER 1 BILLION people to be happy!

    As if that’s not enough, he’s the Co-founder of Sports 1 Marketing and formerly served as CEO of the renowned Leigh Steinberg Sports & Entertainment agency, which was the inspiration for the movie Jerry Maguire.

    Tune in to see him deliver what he delivers best: value.

    What we discuss with David:

    • [03:34] - How he got involved with vibration and meditation
    • [05:48] - Why he was not happy and fulfilled even being financially sufficient
    • [07:00] - What a world just enough for me means
    • [08:57] - The lesson he learned from a lizard
    • [11:00] - The advantage we have today
    • [13:05] - The insight he got from his mom
    • [15:40] - The biggest adversaries that people carry about him
    • [16:46] - The impact his grandma has on him
    • [18:00] - The patterns that you have to look at in your life
    • [20:00] - The power of receiving
    • [22:41] - His thoughts about gratitude
    • [24:24] - 5 daily practices that allow you to take control of your values
    • [25:04] - 4 steps of Ferocious Buddha
    • [26:29] - A tactical approach to cancel the negative thoughts


    Notable quotes:

    • [03:21] - “Everything in life is vibration.”
    • [04:15] - “Truth vibrates the fastest.”
    • [08:16] - “We are just an instance of a second away to understand that everything comes through me for us.”
    • [08:30] - “Money doesn’t buy happiness.”
    • [16:30] - “Stupid people get bored. Smart people figure out things to do.”
    • [20:10] - “The more I will give, the more I will receive.”
    • [22:00] - “I can’t be poor enough to make you rich. But I can be rich enough to make you rich.”
    • [22:50] - “Pain is an indicator, not a stop signal. It is an indicator that you have a lesson to learn. It tells you to get to a better place.”


    USEFUL RESOURCES/ LINKS:

    David’s Website: https://dmeltzer.com/

    Podcast:https://www.entrepreneur.com/listen/playbook

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/davidmeltzer

    Social Media:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmeltzer2/

    https://www.facebook.com/davidmeltzer11

    https://www.instagram.com/davidmeltzer/

    https://twitter.com/davidmeltzer

    https://www.tiktok.com/@davidmeltzer?


    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=23010497)

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on September 21, 2020

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    Challenge Everything You Thought You Knew About Leadership with Marcia Daszko Jul 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Marcia Daszko is the author of the bestselling book Pivot Disrupt Transform; Turning Ideas Into Impact

    She’s a thought-provoking and caring contrarian who asks provocative questions to challenge assumptions. She’s not afraid to stand up and ask why things are done in a certain way. Her belief…Just because something is common practice, doesn’t mean is it right!

    She shares the story of why she started her consultancy practice after her two mentors passed away in the same year.

    This led to an extremely successful journey in helping Fortune 500 companies examine their beliefs and practices held to see what should stay and what should go

    As you’ll see Marcia’s catalyst for Strategic Change, Innovation, and Transformational Leadership.

    Her approach is based on a theoretical foundation of management, not fads, and "best practices"!

    You see why she thinks creating a Mission statement is a waste of time, how internal completion does more harm than good, and why she doesn’t believe the manager should focus on motivating their team members.

    Instead, she suggests having a compelling purpose, fostering collaboration, and creating an environment where employees are self-motivated.

    Marcia will turn what you think about leadership on its head!


    Learn more about Marcia Daszko:

    Website: https://www.mdaszko.com

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marciadaszko/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MarciaDaszko

    Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/marciadaszkoassociates/?_rdc=1&_rdr


    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=23010497)

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on June 18, 2020

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    Build an Open Network and Get Off the Zombie Path! - Part 2 with Toby Corey Jul 07, 2023
    Show notes

    This is part 2 of my conversation with Toby Corey. If you missed part 1 you can find it here. As I mentioned in the first show, Toby is a serial entrepreneur responsible for managing 3 different billion-dollar businesses, including 2 successful IPOs, and the merger of SolarCity into Tesla where I had the pleasure of reporting to him. He currently sits on the board for multiple companies and lectures at Stanford on entrepreneurship. On part 2 of our conversation we cover a many fascinating topics including, why he has completely changed his mind about being an expert about one thing, the critical importance of building an open network, what he means when he says people should get off the Zombie path, the common mistake most people when they first get up, and why following your passion is actually the wrong way to think. We even explore the meaning of life the unanswered question of where our consciousness actually exists. This show is jam-packed full of insights like these and others so I hope you enjoy part 2 of my conversation with Toby Corey on Insight Out!


    Check out Toby’s Zentrepreneur philosophy and mission at Zentrepreneur.life


    Learn more about Toby Corey:

    Website: www.getvirtual.org

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobycorey/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/tobycorey


    Insight Out Links:

    Email > billy@insightoutshow.com

    Instagram > @insightoutpodcast

    YouTube > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXgR9qVXhRvXVqbb0FQoCmg

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insightoutshow/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/insightoutshow/

    TikTok > @insightout

    Twitter > @insightoutshow

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=23010497)

    This is an encore episode and was originally published on September 09, 2019

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