Inside Out w/ Turner and Seth

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Episode 27 - Big Gigantic Mar 14, 2017

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This episode features Jeremy Salken and Dominic Lalli....who ARE Big Gigantic... After a brief update from Rob and Seth, they get into it with Big Gigantic, starting with each musician's very beginnings playing as children.. and move through the compelling career of this groundbreaking act. The duo explains how their lives and musical experiences would ultimately find them collaborating in Colorado and working together to create BG. Jeremy talks about seeing Global Funk Council at "The Goat" while he was living in Breckenridge. A spontaneous invitation to jump on stage that night would quickly evolve into him touring with the band. Salken would move to Colorado and link up with The Motet. This would lead to him joining forces with Lalli who had also been suggested by a friend to seek out The Motet. Lalli talks about going from learning basic computer skills to collaborating with members of String Cheese Incident and sitting in with bands like STS9 and Pnuma Trio as Big Gigantic was getting off of the ground. The band talks about extensively about their career and these two fellas reveal themselves to be extremely focused and conscientious lads. They assure us that they effort to be in a constant date of improvement, particularly with regard to their light show. We learn about how the band has remained staunchly independent from the start, and how they turned an opportunity to play Red Rocks into the Rowdytown Festival. The episode ends with Rob seeking a catharsis by revealing embarrassing things about himself, and a full version of a Big Gigantic song discussed in the interview. Twitter: @insideoutwtns Email: insideoutwtns@gmail.com

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WTNS Tweener C - Fools Paradise (Paul Levine, Benny Bloom, and Tom Hamilton) Mar 06, 2017

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This episode focuses on the rapidly approaching Fool’s Paradise extravaganza and includes interviews with festival promoter Paul Levine, as well as performers Eric “Benny” Bloom of Lettuce and Tom Hamilton of Joe Russo’s Almost Dead. Levine discusses how the seeds of the festival’s location were planted when an Umphrey’s McGee festival (which also featured Lettuce) was moved from a civil war fort to the idyllic St. Augustine Amphitheatre in St. Augustine, FL two years ago. He talks about his career as a promoter, about working with Lettuce to curate the festival (“we’ve always enjoyed working together… doing things to promote and advance funk music”), and about an excursion which this year will be offered to Fool’s Paradise attendees (“you can go on a boat for a couple hours and have wine and beer with some of the guys from Lettuce”). Then a portion of last fall’s Lockn’ Festival enters the episode where Benny Bloom talks about meeting, then playing with Lettuce for the first time. Bloom talks about how he would quickly become a key part of the band and assume the trumpet role full-time, and about why he particularly enjoys playing for the funk/jam band world. The dynamic Tom Hamilton, who will be performing with Joe Russo’s Almost Dead at this year’s Fool’s Paradise, steps up to the plate next and talks about the boundless spontaneity of the band. He also compares what its like playing in a band with the drummer as the “Point Man” in Almost Dead to being the “Point Man” himself in Billy and The Kids, the ensemble with the Dead’s own Bill Kreutzmann. The entire Hamilton interview is included in Episode 20 of Inside Out WTNS.

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Episode 26 - Al Schnier and Jim Loughlin (moe.) Feb 27, 2017

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Episode 26 focuses on the organic rock band, moe. First, reigning “Mayor of moe.down,” Rex Thomson joins and relates how he earned this coveted band honor. Then, Seth and Rob sit with Al Schnier and Jim Loughlin on the band’s bus and discuss how a young moe. got the opportunity to jam with Bob Weir while on the 1997 Furthur Festival, and how a couple of years later Al charted music for Phil Lesh. Jim relates his experience returning to an evolved moe. after his brief period away from them around the same time, and Schnier and Loughlin go into detail on improvisation, spontaneity and songwriting. However, industry folks may be most compelled by the thinking behind the band’s recent decisions first to let their manager of 20-plus years go, and then to defray management duties across the band. Schnier talks about being overwhelmed by his initial efforts to take on all of the management tasks alone, and we learn how the band resolved this and as a result, became a band intimately involved in every aspect of their operations. The episode concludes with moe. performing brand new Loughlin (“Don’t Wanna Be”) and Schnier (“Angel”) compositions in their entirety, on the band’s 2017 Winter Tour.

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WTNS Tweener #B - Chris Kuroda Feb 20, 2017

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Seth and Rob revel in Seth’s return to Atlanta before discussing Bob Dylan, recent online music articles, and their interview with Chris Kuroda at Lockn' a few months ago. This episodes shares clips of from said interview, first about how Kuroda learned many things on the fly in his early days with Phish, and how his responsibilities became more focused during these years. Hear him rave about his programmer Andrew Giffin, who provides Kuroda great flexibility as Giffin can adjust the console (by doing things like re-writing code at the root level) to fit CK’s ever-evolving and exacting needs. Kuroda also discusses how his familiarity with Madison Square Garden may increasingly benefit Phish shows there moving forward, as he now has access to house lights located all over the room, “we plan on really digging into that now that I have a lot of programming for it.” This is surely great news for anyone holding tickets to any……or ALL of the band’s forthcoming “Baker’s Dozen” run of shows at this iconic venue." The bulk of the original interview focuses on the details around Kuroda and the band’s decision last year to incorporate video elements into their already-superb presentation, and how Kuroda executed this transition – please visit Episode 18 to hear the entire original interview. Before signing off Seth and Rob discuss Brandi Carlile’s performances at The Avett Brothers At The Beach, their destination festival in Mexico, and where they want to interview Jason Isbell and Oteil Burbridge in the future.

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Episode 25 - Chris Mitchell Feb 13, 2017

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Rob updates us on some recent activity in the Bowie world and Seth fills us on the music and other moments unique to One Big Holiday and The Avett Brother's At The Beach events in Mexico, before they run their interview with one of the most respected sound men in music, Chris Mitchell of Umphrey's McGee. Mitchell speaks of the band's dive into surround sound and compares his approaches with those of The Grateful Dead's long-time front of house sound engineer Dan Healy. We learn how Mitchell's career began as a sort of courtship, and ultimately moved through a range of festivals and artists (including Tracy Chapman, Kitaro and G. Love + Special Sauce) before his friend Jason Brodsky linked him up with The Grateful Dead's Mickey Hart. We learn about Chris' days with Mickey, including the challenges of mixing "two dolphins fucking" and why Hart has a reputation for having a short temper. Umphans might be particularly interested to learn about how he ended up with their band. Chris tells of how his uber-collaborative relationship with his predecessor Kevin Browning assisted in his transition and how the two of them remain in close contact, actively focused on improving the Umphrey's McGee experience. He also gives away a few secrets of how he brings forth some nuanced vocal trickery.

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WTNS Tweener #A - Jefferson Waful Feb 07, 2017

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This, the first "Best of"-style Tweener Episode revisits the Episode 6 interview with Umphrey's McGee Lighting Designer Jefferson Waful. Waful explains how Phish Lighting Designer Chris Kuroda's trust in collaboration in turn inspired Jefferson to trust another LD and spontaneously collaborate with him at Wanee.......and what Jefferson would later learn about said LD after their work was done. This mini-episode also features Seth's update from the Castaway and One Big Holiday events (complete with Rob begging Seth to ask Jim James about the record his friends The Slip reportedly have "in the can"). Rob also reveals his idea to have Blueground Undergrass over to Wonder Dog Sound Studios for an interview and performance.

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Episode 24 - Brendan Bayliss part 2 Jan 27, 2017

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Seth calls in to brief all of us on Jam Cruise. Then the Brendan Bayliss interview continues and we hear his memories of Umphrey's landmark Bonnaroo performance, his early experiences with eventual peers like moe. and The Disco Biscuits and his feelings on criticism of his work. He also tells some stories about playing The Jammys with Sinead O'Connor, Mavis Staples, Huey Lewis and Jeff Coffin. Brendan explains the band's hand-signals, and how Joshua Redman first thought they were kidding about them, but ended up finding them helpful when improvising with UM. Brendan talks about how fan feedback impacts the band with regard to the venues at which they play. Then he speaks of how his new release "Zonkey" may signal the end of the band's annual mashup-themed Halloween shows, about failing to sit on the John-John while recording at Abbey Road, and about the brand new material the band is working on now.

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Episode 23 - Brendan Bayliss part 1 Jan 21, 2017

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Rob and Seth announce the new co-branding with Live For Live Music and welcome their new listeners. They make an appeal for an interactive relationship - particularly with regard to the coming episode on webcasting. Then they interview Brendan Bayliss, founding member of Umphrey's McGee. We learn about how at a young age he moved from being an avid sports fan to a guitar enthusiast. His father's brilliant tennis career is discussed, as it found Brendan moving to and from Massachusetts, on to Indiana, and ultimately attending Norte Dame. We are taken through the late 90s South Bend music scene, including the UM-historical significance of Ali Baba's Tahini. Brendan tells of how he went from playing in a band with eventual Umphrey's McGee bassist Ryan "Pony" Stasik, to forming Umphrey's McGee. He explains his thinking behind the pivotal and selfless choice to extract Jake Cinninger from the charred ruins of Ali Baba's Tahini and bring him into the Umphold. We also hear the story of how Vince Iwinski became the band's manager, and how former front of house engineer Kevin Browning's shift to management has greatly benefitted the band. Brendan also elaborates on the beauty of gradual growth, and the not-so-beautiful way Steve Miller behaved like an asshole at Christmas Jam a few years back. Episode also includes multiple mentions of Marc Maron's interview with Derek Trucks. Why? Because it was superb.

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Episode 22 - Pete Sears Jan 12, 2017

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Rob and Seth get a lesson on many kinds of music from Britain to San Francisco in the 60s, 70s and 80s from the legendary Pete Sears. Sears tells stories from throughout the first half of his career - from his early days with the rockabilly group The Spitfires up until he became one of the four finalists to replace Brent Mydland in The Grateful Dead. Hear about his days splitting time between working on seminal Rod Stewart records in England and discovering the world of San Francisco Bay Area music. His work with the brilliant-yet-volatile Paul Kantner and Grace Slick is explored. We hear his account of an infamous cancellation, and the ensuing chaos at the 1978 Lorelei Festival during which Pete's treasured bass ("Dragon," a sibling of sorts, of Garcia's iconic "Tiger" guitar), was among the equipment destroyed or stolen by the crowd - although Sears' bass DID survive, and would be returned to his some three and a half decades later. Time did not permit for his more recent years to be discussed much, so he will have to return to the show sometime. Episode also includes Seth's updates from his work on the high seas with Holy Ship and Rob's reports on his experiences at Atlanta's "Holiday Hootenanny" and the Umphrey's McGee New Year's run in Chicago.

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Hanukkah Special Dec 24, 2016

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In this special Hanukkah episode, Rob interviews Seth about his life-changing ten-day trip to Israel, on the Honeymoon Israel program, this past autumn. Seth explains about how he applied, interviewed and was ultimately accepted by honeymooninisreal.org for his wife Amy and him to be a part of this interesting Group Venture. While Seth does not consider himself a "practicing Jew," he relates how he and his wife had a bit of a spiritual experience traveling and connecting with with 19 other Atlanta area couples. Seth takes us through his wife and his experience shopping, meeting people, doing Shabbat and gaining perspective in The Holy Land.

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