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Charmed by a Narcissist w/Lola Binkerd Jan 13, 2021

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Lola Binkerd is an Author and Actress who was born and raised as a fourth-generation member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormon) in Salt Lake City, Utah. She has lived in Los Angeles for 16 years and her horror anthology "The River God and Other Stories" and short story "4-H" are available as eBooks on Gumroad and Amazon. Lola details how being raised in a particularly patriarchal Mormon Church set her up to seek out unhealthy relationships with men as an adult. She shares her experiences dealing with a manipulative and narcissistic love interest. Lola breaks down the learned mindset that allowed her to be drawn into a problematic relationship rife with gaslighting and deception. Before You Go: Rachel explains how growing up love-starved as a child can leave you very confused about what love is and make you vulnerable to manipulation in your adult relationships. Rachel also shares her thoughts on the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol last week. She gives insight into how people can so easily be indoctrinated into an ideology of hate and be driven to participate in tragically violent incidents. ***Rachel is speaking today about the Capitol Hill riots only to show the power of a leader's influence as it connects to the theme of the podcast. She is not taking a political stance (Republican vs. Democrat) and therefore is not inviting political debate or political comments. Thank you!*** Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Jonas Schaller, Niamh Quinn, Jenny Vogels, and ShinyCorviknight Help support the show at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination
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A Girl in a Patriarchy w/ Lola Binkerd Jan 06, 2021

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Lola Binkerd is an Author and Actress who was born and raised as a fourth-generation member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormon) in Salt Lake City, Utah. She has lived in Los Angeles for 16 years and her horror anthology "The River God and Other Stories" and short story "4-H" are available as eBooks on Gumroad and Amazon. Lola shares with Rachel her experiences as a child growing up in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and explains how those experiences have affected her as an adult. She describes the toxic effects of raising girls to believe blind obedience and total self-sacrifice are feminine virtues, and how teaching girls to marry and defer to the right kind of man sets them up to be the victims of narcissists and high-control groups, even if they leave the religion/group itself. Before You Go: Rachel expands on Lola's childhood experience of being made to feel that her needs are secondary to those perceived to be higher up in the religious hierarchy of the church. She compares it to her own childhood experiences as the "baby" of the family and how it affected her relationships as an adult. Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Kate Donnellon, The MLM Police, Kara Fink, James Gussen, Joseph Carpenito, and Jennifer MacPherson Help support the show at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination To get in touch with Rachel please write her at indoctrinationshow@gmail.com
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Facilitating Abuse w/ Stacie Stukin & Phillip Deslippe Dec 30, 2020

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Stacie Stukin is an arts and culture journalist who grew up in Los Angeles. She was a contributing editor at Yoga Journal and she’s also written about yoga for the Los Angeles Times and Time Magazine. Over the years, she’s had the opportunity to write about and practice many different forms of the practice including Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan. This past July, she wrote a comprehensive investigative piece for Los Angeles Magazine about the current sexual misconduct allegations against Yogi Bhajan and the subsequent reckoning within the 3HO community. Philip Deslippe is a Ph.D. candidate in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of California, Santa Barbara and holds an MA from the University of Iowa. He has written articles for several academic journals including Ameriasia and the Journal of Yoga Studies, and pieces for numerous popular venues such as Yoga Journal and Tricycle. Philip was a member of 3HO for about a decade after taking a Kundalini Yoga class at his undergraduate college in the mid-1990s. He left in 2008 and went on to conduct research into the origins of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga that culminated in the ground-breaking 2012 article "From Maharaj to Mahan Tantric" for Sikh Formations. Rachel continues her wide-ranging discussion with these foremost 3HO researchers as they go in-depth about their respective work exposing Yogi Bhajan. Stacie and Phillip talk about their experiences covering the group and the aftermath of their revelatory reporting. Before You Go: Rachel discusses "SGA's" or second-generation cult members and explains the damage that can be done, especially to children who are born into the isolation of compound life. She shares her experiences working with people leaving these sheltered environments and the struggles they have integrating into the greater society. The story Rachel mentions from a previous episode can be heard here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/maybe-jesus-isnt-coming-back-next-tuesday-w-andie-redwine-episode-20 Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Jennifer MacPherson and Fritha Land Help support the show at https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination Find more resources and information on Stacie and Phillip here: www.staciestukin.com/ www.philipdeslippe.com/ More indoctrination episodes on this subject can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/jules-hartley To be in touch with Rachel, please write to indoctrinationshow@gmail.com
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Hidden Darkness Behind a White Robe w/ Stacie Stukin & Phillip Deslippe Dec 23, 2020

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Stacie Stukin is an arts and culture journalist who grew up in Los Angeles. She was a contributing editor at Yoga Journal and she’s also written about yoga for the Los Angeles Times and Time Magazine. Over the years, she’s had the opportunity to write about and practice many different forms of the practice including Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan. This past July, she wrote a comprehensive investigative piece for Los Angeles Magazine about the current sexual misconduct allegations against Yogi Bhajan and the subsequent reckoning within the 3HO community. Philip Deslippe is a PhD candidate in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of California, Santa Barbara and holds an MA from the University of Iowa. He has written articles for several academic journals including Ameriasia and the Journal of Yoga Studies, and pieces for numerous popular venues such as Yoga Journal and Tricycle. Philip was a member of 3HO for about a decade after taking a Kundalini Yoga class at his undergraduate college in the mid-1990s. He left in 2008 and went on to conduct research into the origins of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga that culminated in the ground-breaking 2012 article "From Maharaj to Mahan Tantric" for Sikh Formations. Rachel moderates an in-depth conversation with two of the leading experts on 3HO revealing the history of both the 3HO organization as well as Yogi Bhajan himself. Before You Go: Rachel explains the damage that disbelief can cause to victims of controlling groups. She dissects how societal prejudices can help hold up the power structures that allow abusive groups to avoid accountability sometimes for decades. Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Katie Smith, Paul K, Katie Lacy, and Parker Radbourne Help support the show at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination Find more resources and information on Stacie and Phillip here: https://www.staciestukin.com/ https://philipdeslippe.com/ More indoctrination episodes on this subject can be found here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/jules-hartley
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Fraud as Indoctrination w/ Daniel Ice Dec 16, 2020

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Daniel is an entrepreneur and was raised inside the church. His journey into understanding the nature of fraud and its application to religion started when he was excommunicated from his church for exposing sexual abuse. This has led him to ask the hard questions around his most deeply held beliefs. He has found healing through conversations around faith and abuse. He shares very personal stories with the hope that it will help others to find strength and healing. Rachel and Daniel discuss the shared tactics of fraudulent businesses and coercive religious groups, while Daniel goes in-depth about the personal experiences behind his motivation to educate people about the archetypes of fraud in all of its forms. Before You Go: Rachel touches on Robert Cialdini's concept of "pre-suasion", the idea of strategically conveying messages in order to make someone more open to subsequent manipulation. She offers advice on how to notice the signs of "pre-suasion" in order to avoid this subtle but powerful form of influence. Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Katherine, Maija Teppola Baehr, and Parker Radbourne Help support the show at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination
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Beyond The 12 Steps w/Brooke Knaack Dec 09, 2020

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Brooke Knaack is a licensed marriage and family therapist and registered art therapist based in Los Angeles who has over ten years of clinical experience. She currently sees clients at her private practice where she uses cognitive, relational, and somatic techniques to help individuals with developmental trauma or dysfunctional families cultivate healthy boundaries and relationships. Brooke was introduced to the 12-step program of AA in her early twenties and went on to be a very active member for 14 years before she started to question aspects of the organization. Since leaving AA in early 2018, Brooke has expanded her practice to include supporting clients that are transitioning away from controlling systems and learning to trust themselves again. Brooke shares her nuanced view of her experiences while being fully immersed in the 12 step program of Alcoholics Anonymous. While the group did help her stay sober, Brooke carefully points out some of the serious flaws and potentially damaging lack of professional oversight inherent in the program. She explains how in retrospect, her new perspective from the point of view of a mental health professional provided clarity on her own experience and allowed her to see the potential risks for certain vulnerable populations. Before You Go: Rachel goes into detail about the importance of safeguards in recovery groups of all kinds and reiterates the idea that these groups can often be both beneficial and counter-productive simultaneously. Thanks to our newest Patreon supporter Mick Wingert and Nml! Help support the show at https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination Read more of Rachel's thoughts on AA here: https://filtermag.org/deprogramming-from-aa-when-a-fellowship-resembles-a-cult/
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The Troubled Teen Industry w/ Caroline Lorson Dec 02, 2020

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Caroline Lorson is a survivor of the troubled teen industry. At the age of 14, she was forcibly removed from her home in Southern California by two transporters and was flown across the country to a lockdown behavior modification school in Upstate New York. Caroline stayed at this facility for 29 months and was stripped of all of her human rights and subjected to coercive thought reform techniques. It took Caroline years to recover from her experience and she now actively works to reform the troubled teen industry through the Breaking Code Silence organization and her podcast, Inside the Program. Breaking Code Silence is a movement organized by a network of survivors and activists to raise awareness of the problems in the Troubled Teen Industry, and the need for reform. Caroline shares some of the devastating experiences of survivors of the "High Impact" facilities run by World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASP) She goes on to reveal how the dangerous "Troubled Teen" industry remains unregulated because of political corruption and explains how the #breakingcodesilence project aims to put an end to it. Before You Go: Rachel sends a message to survivors of the unregulated "Troubled Teen" Industry. Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Nic Bishop, Jenny Shelton and Jennifer Parson. Help Support the show at Patreon.com/indoctrination You can find out more about Caroline's work and further resources here: Inside the Program Podcast: https://anchor.fm/insidetheprogram WWASP Survivors: http://wwaspsurvivors.com/ Breaking Code Silence: https://www.breakingcodesilence.net/ Related Episodes Can Be Found Here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/gagliap1v1 https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/all-basic-human-privilege-was-taken-from-us-part-2-w-nick-gaglia "File:Breaking Code Silence.jpg" by TheYesGirl is licensed with CC BY-SA 4.0. To view a copy of this license, visit https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0
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#Breaking Code Silence w/ Caroline Lorson Nov 25, 2020

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Caroline Lorson is a survivor of the troubled teen industry. At the age of 14, she was forcibly removed from her home in Southern California by two transporters and was flown across the country to a lockdown behavior modification school in Upstate New York. Caroline stayed at this facility for 29 months and was stripped of all of her human rights and subjected to coercive thought reform techniques. It took Caroline years to recover from her experience and she now actively works to reform the troubled teen industry through the Breaking Code Silence organization and her podcast, Inside the Program. Breaking Code Silence is a movement organized by a network of survivors and activists to raise awareness of the problems in the Troubled Teen Industry, and the need for reform. Caroline shares with Rachel her experience with the behaviour modification school and provides some context for these types of institutions by sharing some of the history behind how they came to prominence. Before You Go: Rachel offers a message to parents who may be considering boarding schools or even behavior modification schools and explains how to ensure the safety of their children Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Ellen Mooney Julie Sespico Kicesie Drew Antonio Amaral Braga Theresa Lyn Widmann Help support the show at Patreon.com/indoctrination You can find out more about Caroline's work and further resources here: Inside the Program Podcast: https://anchor.fm/insidetheprogram WWASP Survivors: http://wwaspsurvivors.com/ Breaking Code Silence: https://www.breakingcodesilence.net/
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The "Healing" Industry w/ Erin Aquarian Nov 18, 2020

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Erin Aquarian is an artist and musician living in Portland, Oregon. Around the age of 26, she began to explore spirituality, particularly witchcraft, to try to heal herself and make her life better. In 2012 she became involved with a “mystery school” for four years. Though she thought this school was helping her become her true self living a life of meaning and purpose, the school was rife with dysfunctional dynamics which deepened the wounds she showed up with and caused new ones she is now trying to heal from. Currently, Erin is recovering from eight years of being manipulated, gaslit, and misled by the people involved in this community, and others she has met and worked within various spirituality/healing modalities. Erin shares her experience healing from the damage the school inflicted on her and others. She emphasizes the importance of working only with licensed and trained mental health professionals on her recovery journey and exposes the dangers of the unregulated healing industry. Make sure to tune into the intro this week where Rachel addresses the importance of finding safe ways to connect this holiday season. Before You Go: Rachel explains how people can be more vulnerable to recruitment by cultic groups during times of existential crisis, especially after the loss of loved ones. She describes why people in these fragile states must avoid those who claim to have all the answers they seek. Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters: Chantal Dodson and Christina Hendricks Support the show at https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination
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3HO's House of Fallen Cards w/Jules Hartley Nov 11, 2020

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After four successful years of working on TV shows and films in New York City, Jules Hartley thought it would be a good idea for her to move to LA. A couple of years into her Hollywood journey, she discovered Kundalini yoga as taught specifically by Yogi Bhajan and the Golden Bridge Yoga Studio in Hollywood. She was instantly hooked and began what turned into a seven and a half year stint as a hardcore and fanatical member of what is now The Rama Yoga Institute, 3HO, and their brand of Sikhism. The yoga and meditation lifestyle given by Yogi Bhajan thus became her entire universe, and within a year or two, she was devoting up to 18 hours a day, to practices that Yogi Bhajan said would ultimately make her life better and get her to "ascend". Jules explains to Rachel why she ultimately ended up leaving Hollywood in 2018, very sick after her experiences, and completely broke as she had given her money over to this group. She details her experiences leaving the intense systemic control of this cultic yoga group and provides insight on her journey to recovery. Before You Go: Rachel shares her perspective on the results of the 2020 U.S Presidential Election and provides insight into why people who have left cults were so triggered by the US president for the last 4 years and how he behaved, and were so troubled by seeing how many militant hate groups and conspiratorial groups like QAnon felt supported by him. Thanks to our newest Patrons: Rachel McDonald, Ilze Dempsey, Martyna Smuga and Tracie Laymon Learn more about Yogi Bhajan and 3HO here: https://youtu.be/_uLU-a5gZOI https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271568190_From_Maharaj_to_Mahan_Tantric_The_Construction_of_Yogi_Bhajan%27s_Kundalini_Yoga
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