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    In Our Defence

    In Our Defence is a weekly podcast that breaks down wars, weapons, and the world of military power with clarity, curiosity, and zero jargon.

    Hosted by journalist Dev Goswami, each episode features sharp, story-rich conversations with leading defence experts, offering distinct perspectives and nuances on how nations prepare, fight, and defend.

    From battlefield strategy and military tech to geopolitics, intelligence, and national security — In Our Defence focuses on conversations that are grounded, engaging, and made for curious minds.

    No fluff. No noise. Just a clear line of sight into the world of conflict.

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    Copyright: Copyright © 2026 Living Media India Limited

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    Latest Episodes:
    India's Warship Boom Is Hiding a Bigger Problem |S3| Ep 55 Jun 26, 2026
    Show notes

    India appears to be in the middle of a naval shipbuilding boom. Destroyers, frigates, submarines, anti-submarine vessels and support ships are entering service with striking regularity.
    But commissioning ceremonies tell us what India decided to build years ago. They do not necessarily tell us what is being ordered for the 2030s and 2040s.
    In this season finale episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and national security expert Sandeep Unnithan examine how the Indian Navy became unusually capable of designing, integrating and supervising the construction of its own warships. The two decode the Navy's alphabet soup of Project 15B, Project 17A, Project 75I, Project 76 and the proposed next-generation programmes.
    The two also ask whether India risks losing the continuous production rhythm required to build complex destroyers, frigates and submarines. Smaller vessels may keep shipyards occupied, but can they preserve the skills and supply chains needed for the next generation of frontline combatants?
    And finally, the two get to the larger strategic argument: what kind of Navy does India actually want?
    Should it focus on controlling the waters close to home, dominate key parts of the Indian Ocean, operate from Africa to Southeast Asia, or develop a more expeditionary force? Does India need a third aircraft carrier or would submarines, escorts, maritime aircraft and unmanned systems provide greater value?
    Because before India decides which ships to build, it must decide what it expects its Navy to do.
    Tune in!
    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Aman Pal


    Galwan Revisited: The Night India's China Problem Became Real | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep 54 Jun 19, 2026
    Show notes

    Six years after the Galwan Valley clash, we revisit the night that fundamentally changed India's relationship with China.
    What exactly happened on June 15, 2020? How did the Indian Army respond after losing soldiers, including a commanding officer? Why didn't the crisis spiral into a shooting war? And with the benefit of hindsight, what can we now infer about China's objectives and Xi Jinping's motivations?
    In this episode, we explore:
    * The events of the Galwan clash
    * The command and emotional shock inside the Indian Army
    * Whether Galwan permanently shifted India's military focus toward China
    * China's long-term strategy along the Line of Actual Control
    * Why trust between India and China remains difficult six years later
    Galwan was more than a border clash. It was the moment India's China challenge stopped being theoretical.
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    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Rohan Bharti


    AMCA's Real Challenge Isn't Stealth. It's Management. | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep 53 Jun 05, 2026
    Show notes

    India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft, or AMCA, is usually discussed as a fifth-generation stealth fighter: low observable design, internal weapons bays, sensor fusion, advanced engines, and all the cool stuff that makes defence nerds sit up straighter.
    But this episode of In Our Defence asks a slightly different question: is AMCA really about building a plane or about building the factory, institutions, and accountability structure needed to make that plane real?
    The Ministry of Defence's AMCA tender lays out an ambitious plan to rope in a private-sector industrial partner in order to create a fifth-generation aerospace manufacturing ecosystem.
    But then comes the big gap: who is the real project manager?
    ADA owns the design. The IAF owns the requirement. Private industry will build and integrate. Certification agencies will certify. GTRE-Safran's engine effort appears, for now, to be running on a separate track. So, if X owns A and Y owns B...Who owns the delay?
    In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Sandeep Unnithan unpack why AMCA needs more than a good airframe. It needs the kind of mission-mode structure India built for the ATV/Arihant submarine programme - one that brings the alphabet soup of agencies together under real authority.
    We also get into the quirks of India's L1 bidding culture: sensible for many contracts, but possibly dangerous when applied to complex, high-risk, must-succeed strategic programmes like a fifth-generation fighter.
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    Produced by Taniya Dutta


    Pakistan's Generals and America's Forever Influence | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep May 22, 2026
    Show notes

    Pakistan did not just become America's ally after 1947 – it slowly became a state whose military and strategic establishment learned that survival depended on staying useful to Washington.
    In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and national security expert Sandeep Unnithan trace how Pakistan evolved into a geopolitical rentier state: trading geography, military cooperation and strategic access for money, weapons, political backing, and regime stability.
    We break down:
    -Why the United States backed Pakistan after independence
    -How Pakistan's military became deeply tied to Washington
    -Why Pakistani generals realised pleasing the US was often the key to surviving domestically
    -The Cold War origins of the US-Pakistan partnership
    -How this relationship pushed India closer to the Soviet Union
    -What the Imran Khan cipher controversy actually revealed
    -Whether the US played a role in Khan's removal
    -The rise of Asim Munir and Pakistan's military establishment
    -Why Pakistan may still prioritise US ties even at the cost of China
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    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Aman Pal


    India's Missile Week: Hypersonics, MIRVs & China Signal | S3 | Ep 51 May 15, 2026
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    India has had a very busy missile season. In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Sandeep Unnithan unpack a cluster of recent developments: the reported long-range hypersonic anti-ship missile test, DRDO and IAF’s TARA glide weapon trial, the Advanced Agni MIRV test, the long-duration scramjet combustor test, and the chatter around possible K-series submarine-launched missile activity.
    But this is not just spec-sheet episode.
    The episode looks at the story of how India managed to develop a rocket and missile force that is abreast with the rest of the world.
    We go back to PN Haksar’s 1968 strategic thinking, Project Valiant, the IGMDP era, the shadowy Project Surya, and the modern Agni-6 question to understand how India’s missile ambitions evolved.
    We also ask whether the least glamorous weapon in the news cycle -- TARA -- might actually matter the most in an age of long wars and attrition.
    Hypersonics are sexy, MIRVs are apocalyptic, scramjets are manic engineering, but cheap precision at scale may be the real battlefield superpower.
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    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Rohan Bharti


    How Operation Sindoor Redefined Indian Warfare | In Our Defence |S3 | Ep 50 May 07, 2026
    Show notes

    One year ago, the template for India's response to state-sponsored terror changed forever. It began with a tragedy in Pahalgam -- where tourists were targeted with M4 rifles -- and ended with a 30-minute IAF rampage that shattered Pakistan's airbases.
    In this episode, host Dev Goswami and national security expert Sandeep Unnithan go beyond the headlines of Operation Sindoor. They break down the "fast-moving missile" that nearly triggered a nuclear escalation, why India stayed silent about it, and the birth of Cold Start 2.0: a new era of kinetic non-contact warfare that uses Pakistan's own geography against it.
    Key Takeaways:
    The Geography Curse: How Pakistan's lack of physical depth (only 600-900km wide) makes every inch of its territory a target for BrahMos and S-400 systems.
    Tactical Mistakes vs. Strategic Wins: Unpacking CDS Gen Anil Chauhan's comments on military losses and the evolution of India's policy: no more distinction between state and non-state actors.
    The Silent Interception: The story of the ballistic missile fired at Delhi and why India's "off-ramp" diplomacy was just as lethal as its jets.
    The lessons learnt: What India, Pakistan and even will have taken away from Operation Sindoor.
    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Suraj Singh


    Unpacking India's Air Defence as Air Force Gets Another S-400 Regiment | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep 49 May 01, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Sandeep Unnithan unpack one of the most complex parts of modern warfare: the art and science of shooting things out of the sky.
    India is preparing to induct another S-400 regiment, the system that grabbed attention during Operation Sindoor and remains one of the most formidable long-range air-defence systems in the world. But the S-400 is only one piece of a much larger puzzle.
    The episode breaks down India’s layered air-defence architecture: VSHORADS, MANPADS, Akash, MRSAM, Barak-8, S-400, ballistic missile defence, and the crucial command-and-control network that ties it all together: IACCS.
    The episode also looks at what recent conflicts have shown us: from mass drone and missile attacks in West Asia to the growing challenge of cheap drones forcing expensive interceptors into action. And then, we turn to the uncomfortable but necessary question: what happens when air defence goes wrong?
    This is not just about missiles. It is about sensors, software, human judgement, rules of engagement, friendly-fire risks, and the terrifying pressure of deciding what to shoot -- and what not to shoot -- in real time
    Tune In!
    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Aman Pal


    Pakistan Helped Shape Iran’s Nuclear Story. Now It’s Hosting US Peace Talks | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep 48 Apr 24, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of In Our Defence, we step away from the predictable outrage and look at the harder, more interesting question: why does Pakistan remain useful in high-stakes geopolitics despite its long record of contradictions?
    Host Dev Goswami and national security expert Sandeep Unnithan unpack Pakistan's complicated ties with the United States, its uneasy relationship with Iran, its growing closeness to Saudi Arabia, and the larger truth that diplomacy is often driven less by morality and more by access, leverage, geography and utility.
    They discuss the irony of how Pakistan with its history of having helped seed Iran's nuclear program is now helping broker talks that hinge on Tehran agreeing to give up its nuclear capabilities.
    The two also get into the Osama bin Laden episode, the strange durability of US-Pakistan ties, and the role "middlemen" play in crises where nobody fully trusts anybody.
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    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Rohan Bharti


    Iran War: Will US Blockade of Hormuz Prevail?  | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep 47 Apr 17, 2026
    Show notes

    In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami is joined by national security expert Sandeep Unnithan to unpack one of the world’s most critical flashpoints—the Strait of Hormuz.
    Why do narrow sea lanes like Hormuz matter so much to global trade and oil supply? What does a naval blockade actually look like in practice—not theory, but at sea? From ship strength and surveillance tech to geography and fleet positioning, we break down the real mechanics behind maritime chokeholds.
    The episode also explores the counterplay: can a blockade be breached, and what does it take to punch through one? As tensions simmer between the US and Iran, does Washington’s naval dominance guarantee control, or is Tehran playing a deeper, asymmetric game?
    They also unpack the curious case of the Rich Starry, the China-bound vessel whose strange movements through Hormuz have raised eyebrows. Additionally, a throwback to history — when India blockaded Karachi during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. What worked, what didn’t, and what it tells us about modern naval warfare.
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    Produced by Taniya Dutta
    Sound mixed by Rohan Bharti


    39 Days of War: Did the US and Israel Actually Fail to Break Iran? | In Our Defence | S3 | Ep 46 Apr 10, 2026
    Show notes

    After 39 days of war, Iran has agreed to a temporary ceasefire and the Strait of Hormuz is back in focus. But the big question remains: what exactly did this war achieve?
    In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and national security expert Sandeep Unnithan unpack how the conflict escalated, why the war's goals seemed to keep shifting, and why, despite taking enormous punishment, Iran still ended up at the negotiating table without complete submission.
    We get into:
    How the US and Israel framed the war, and how those aims evolved
    Whether Iran was defeated militarily but survived strategically
    What this conflict revealed about air defence and modern missile warfare
    Why this war may go down as a lesson in the limits of overwhelming force
    Whether the ceasefire can actually hold
    And the biggest long-term question of all: does this make Iran more likely to want the bomb?
    This is not just a story about Iran, Israel, or the US. It is also a story about miscalculation, resilience, and what modern war looks like when even massive military superiority cannot produce a neat political outcome.
    Tune In!
    Produced by Areeb Raza
    Sound mixed by Suraj Singh
    Link To NY Times Article- https://www.nytimes.com/2026/0...


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