I Hate It Here

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S9 E2: Why It’s Never Too Late to Pivot Careers with Ash Hynie Jul 28, 2025

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So if you didn’t know,I love a good career pivot story!

Today’s guest is basically the poster child for burning it all down and starting over, in the best possible way.

I first found Ash Hynie on TikTok like any good millennial does, instantly became obsessed, and then fully fangirled when we met IRL at a conference!

In this episode, we talk about why your job isn’t your identity (even if capitalism told you otherwise), how terrifying and freeing it is to start over, and why transferrable skills are your secret weapon, even when you feel like you have none.

0:02:42 - A Hard Truth About Work

0:05:00 - Ash’s Wild Career Arc: Chef, Engineer, HR, and Tech CEO

0:08:10 - One Hard Truth About Changing Careers That Nobody Talks About

0:15:50 - When Ash Realized Her Dream Job Wasn’t Actually Her Dream

0:28:42 - Advice for People Transitioning Into Something New

0:33:31 - A Skill That Has Helped Ash in Every Role She’s Had

0:40:11 - Things We Tend to Overlook About Transferrable Skills

0:44:23 - Advice For People Who Don’t Know What They’re Good At

0:47:38 - Are There Skills You Need to Unlearn in Order to Grow?

0:54:01 - What Prepared Ash to Become a Founder and What Caught Her Off Guard

0:57:10 - One Question Everyone Should Ask Themselves Before Chasing the Next Role

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S9 E1: I'm Burnt Out, Now What? with Eva Bak Jul 21, 2025

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Burnout is basically an epidemic. And HR? We’re patient zero!

In this episode, I sat down with my brilliant friend Eva Bak to talk about what burnout actually looks like in our world—the mental load, the emotional labor, and the whole exhausting mess of trying to help people while drowning ourselves.

We get into the duality of being HR (hello therapist and policy enforcer), the unspoken trauma of offboarding, and why community is the only thing keeping us semi-sane.

If you’ve ever cried in a supply closet or considered moving to the woods…this one's for you.

0:03:01 - What is One Hard Truth About Work?

0:05:17 - Eva’s Interesting Trajectory Into HR

0:08:48 - Defining Burnout

0:17:43 - Important Factors That Contribute to Burnout in HR Today

0:26:21 - How Burnout Shows Up In HR vs. Other Departments

0:29:01 - Warning Signs of Burnout at Work

0:34:33 - Eva’s Personal Experience with Burnout

0:40:11 - Why Are HR Professionals So Prone to Burnout?

0:56:24 - Advice For HR People Currently Experiencing Burnout

1:00:19 - How Eva Hopes HR Culture Will Address and Reduce Burnout

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S8 E10: The Trust Paradox: Hard to Earn, Easy to Destroy, Impossible to Fake with Minda Harts Jun 23, 2025

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Operating without trust in HR is almost IMPOSSIBLE.

The even crazier part is that trust can be destroyed instantly if you say or do the wrong thing!

I mean, I’ve never met a human being who says they love micromanagement.

In this season finale, Minda Harts and I are dragging trust issues into the light!

We’re dissecting her Seven Trust Languages, why “transparent” leadership feels like a bad magic trick, and how to rebuild trust after your org set it on fire.

Remote teams, chaotic offices, leaders who think trust = “just do what I say”—we’ve got the receipts and the solutions.

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0:02:10 - One Thing About Work Minda Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:06:11 - Symptoms of a Communication Crisis at Work

0:11:11 - How Do you Repair Trust When It’s Broken?

0:16:03 - Trust Violations and Their Impact

0:19:43 - Exploring the Seven Trust Languages

0:27:58 - The Moment Minda Was Inspired to Develop The Seven Trust Languages

0:36:46 - Manifesting Trust in the Remote World

0:44:16 - Practical Steps to Take to Enhance Trust in Your Org

0:48:38 - The Future of Trust in Workplace Culture

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S8 E9: Awakening Accessibility: A New Hope for Actually Including People with Lia Seth Jun 16, 2025

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Look, we’ve all been there at this point:

Your company claims it's “all about accessibility,” but somehow, employees still struggle to find answers to basic questions.

Leadership preaches an open-door policy, but good luck getting a response anytime soon.

And don’t even get me started on the “We’re ADA compliant!” flex like it’s some kind of gold medal when it’s actually the bare minimum!

That’s why I brought in the brilliant friend Lia Seth, Director of People at Cylinder Health, disability advocate, and self-proclaimed Accessibility Queen, to break down why access and accessibility aren’t the same thing, how hustle culture is sabotaging your teams, and why your transparent pay philosophy might still be leaving people in the dark.

We’re calling out gatekeeping, ghosting, and performative corporate nonsense, because employees deserve better, and HR is done cleaning up avoidable messes!

0:02:24 - One Truth About Work Lia Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:07:40 - What Access and Accessibility Means in the Context of Your Workplace

0:09:16 - The Biggest Misconceptions Between Access and Accessibility

0:13:49 - Why Employees Feel Shut Out

0:20:17 - Why Access to Leadership is a Barrier in Some Companies

0:26:49 - An Example of a Small Change That Can Create Genuine Access for Employees

0:31:06 - How Tech Can Unintentionally Create Accessibility Issues

0:39:04 - Gatekeeping Behaviors in the Workplace and How to Dismantle Them

0:49:34 - How Companies Can Move Past Performative Accessibility

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S8 E8: Culture or Cult? How to Spot (and Fix) Fake Work Environments with Latesha Byrd Jun 09, 2025

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I hate to say it, but your “amazing culture” might be a lie.

Today, Latesha Byrd and I are ripping off the culture band-aid to expose what’s actually happening in your org!

You know the drill: shiny values on the wall that nobody abides by, all-hands full of empty promises, and that lovely gaslighty feeling when leadership says “we’re family” but acts like a toxic ex.

We’re explaining why “bring your whole self to work” is a scam if your culture is performative, how to spot and fix the disconnect between what leaders say and what employees live, and the corporate red flags that scream RUN, along with the green flags worth fighting for!

0:01:40 - One Truth About Work Latesha Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:03:51 - How to Define Real Culture and How to Tell When It’s Missing

0:10:39 - When a Company’s Culture Initiative Falls Completely Flat

0:19:03 - Why Performative Actions Ruin Trust at Work, and How to Fix It

0:22:47 - The Role Communication Plays in Shaping Culture Narratives at an Org

0:26:30 - Towing the Line Between Being Inspiring and Being Honest About Challenges

0:31:32 - How to Hold Leaders Accountable

0:37:31 - The “Red Flag or Green Flag?” Game

0:41:10 - If Latesha Could Redesign Culture From Scratch, What Would She Prioritize First?

0:46:16 - What the Next Generation of Employees Will Expect From Real Workplace Culture

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S8 E7: Your Leadership is a Joke (But Nobody’s Laughing) with Matt Poepsel Jun 02, 2025

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Look, I’ll be honest: most “leadership experts” lowkey make me want to throw my laptop into a pool.

But Dr. Matt Poepsel? This man’s the REAL DEAL!

Marine veteran, Ironman triathlete, PhD in psychology, and the actual godfather of talent optimization (no, really, he wrote the book on it)!

So when he says leadership today is broken, you listen.

Today, we’re dragging egos, calling out the “hero leader” BS, and answering the question employees are too scared to ask:

Why are so many leaders terrible at their jobs?

From vulnerability without oversharing to why your status reports are already obsolete, this is the leadership reset you didn’t know you needed.

0:02:30 - One Truth About Work Matt Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:03:37 - How to Build Self-awareness as a Leader

0:06:57 - When A Leader’s Ego Gets in the Way of Good Leadership

0:09:36 - Spotting the Difference Between Authentic Leaders and Stiff Leaders

0:12:58 - A Game-changing Moment in Matt’s Leadership Journey

0:19:21 - What Employees ACTUALLY Want From Leaders

0:22:19 - If a Manager Only Has Time to do One Thing, What Should it Be?

0:27:07 - A Small Action Leaders Can Take That Has a Huge Impact

0:32:41 - The Fine Line Between Vulnerability and Oversharing

0:34:39 - Navigating Leadership in an Era of Burnout, Layoffs, and AI

0:40:03 - Something Every CEO Should Understand About Their Company

0:43:41 - Rewriting the Playbook on How Companies Develop Leaders

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S8 E6: The Corporate Hunger Games: May the Ass-Kissing Be Ever in Your Favor with Jessica Winder May 26, 2025

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Whether we like it or not, office politics are an unavoidable part of corporate life.

But don’t worry—you’re in for a TREAT today because one of my absolute favorite humans, Jessica Winder, is back on the pod, and we’re diving into the BS of corporate life in detail!

You know, the kind where you’re expected to read minds, kiss ass, and perform miracles while leadership acts like promotions are some kind of Da Vinci Code situation.

We’re talking about why “being liked” often beats “being right,” how LinkedIn is just one giant performance of corporate cringe, and why trust is literally cheaper than surveillance (but somehow, companies still don’t get it).

There’s value in learning how to play the corporate game without compromising your integrity, so let’s get into it!

0:03:17 - One Truth Jessica Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:04:16 - What Does Kissing Ass Mean in the Workplace?

0:06:02 - When Good Work Isn’t Enough to Get Ahead

0:08:57 - Unwritten Rules of Career Advancement That Nobody Talks About

0:12:06 - Is Playing Office Politics Part of the Job, or is There Another Way to Succeed?

0:15:01 - How Race and Gender Tie Into Unspoken Rules of Advancement

0:24:23 - Hebba’s Round of Spicy Questions

0:35:11 - How Jessica Would Rewrite the Rules of Career Advancement

0:38:44 - Employees Who Feel Stuck Because They Refuse to Kiss Ass

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S8 E5: The Certainty Gap: Why Employees Feel Like They're Working Blindfolded with Kat Kibben May 19, 2025

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This should come as no surprise anymore, but your employees aren’t just asking for certainty these days, they’re BEGGING for it!

And yet, most workplaces still operate like a Magic 8 Ball: "Ask again later," "Outlook not so good," and my personal favorite, "Cannot predict now." Cool, cool.

So why do we keep acting shocked when people quit over unclear expectations, bad leadership, and the soul-crushing weight of "figure it out yourself" culture?

Joining me today is Kat Kibben, recruiting expert and professional truth-teller, to drag the leadership myths we’re all tired of and drop some real talk on how to actually make work WORK for people!

We’re breaking down why humans would rather deal with a known disaster than unknown chaos, how bad managers create generational trauma in the workplace, and the one thing leaders always get wrong about certainty.

Lots of gems in here, so buckle up!

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0:03:51 - One Truth About Work Kat Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:05:05 - Why Do Humans Crave Certainty So Much?

0:08:25 - How Leaders Can Make Employees Feel Safe

0:19:43 - Why Not Every Good Employee Needs to Be a Manager

0:24:38 - What Does Creativing Clarity Actually Look Like?

0:31:58 - How Good or Bad Communication Shapes Teams Over Time

0:38:34 - Bouncing Back From a Toxic Boss/Environment

0:46:13 - One Thing Leaders Often Get Wrong About Providing Certainty

0:49:33 - One Message Leaders Should Repeat to Their Teams During Uncertain Times

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S8 E4: Compensation Clarity: The Trust Builder No One Uses with Matt McFarlane May 12, 2025

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Let’s talk about the elephant in the room: MONEY. 💸

And who better to talk about money with than compensation guru Matt McFarlane?

In this episode, we’re ripping apart everything you think you know about fair pay.

Why do employees feel stiffed? Are pay gaps accidental or systemic? And why the hell is talking about salary still taboo?

We’ll also be discussing why fair pay is still a myth at most companies, how to handle founders who treat compensation like a dark art, and what actual pay transparency looks like (hint: it’s not just publishing salaries).

Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most.

Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit ⁠⁠lattice.com⁠⁠ to learn more.

0:01:57 - One Truth About Work Matt Wishes More People Understood

0:03:20 - What Being Paid Right Actually Means, and Why Companies Get it Wrong

0:06:58 - What “I Don’t Feel Like I’m Being Paid Fairly” Really Means

0:08:50 - Why is Talking About Pay Such a Taboo Topic at Work?

0:11:49 - Should Employees Know What Their Coworkers Make?

0:14:36 - Are Pay Gaps Intentional, or a Result of a Broken System?

0:19:56 - If Matt Could Change One Thing About Compensation, What Would It Be?

0:22:36 - Dealing With Founders Who Don’t Want to Define Anything Compensation-related

0:27:50 - What Role Should Managers Play in Pay Equity?

0:34:03 - What Does a Truly Fair, Inclusive, and Modern Compensation Philosophy Look Like?

0:39:47 - One Thing Matt Nerds Out About When It Comes to Compensation

0:41:25 - How Matt Would Rewrite the Unwritten Rules About Money at Work

0:47:45 - A Conversation About Money That Matt Wishes He Had Earlier in His Career

0:52:00 - What Workplace Money Utopia Could Look Like in the Future

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S8 E3: Workplace Fairness is a Myth and We Have the Receipts with Cierra Gross May 05, 2025

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Let’s get one thing straight: People Leaders are tired of companies pretending they care about equity while quietly rolling back DEI initiatives and gaslighting employees into thinking they’re the problem.

So I brought in someone I admire DEEPLY, Cierra Gross, Founder of Caged Bird HR and Wrk Receipts, to drag corporate America’s favorite lies—and yes, it got spicy!

We’re discussing why “accountability” is a corporate buzzword for “we’ll investigate ourselves and find no wrongdoing,” how Gen Z is forcing much-needed change at work, and the invisible barriers that sabotage equity.

Cierra’s app, Wrk Receipts, is also about to be a problem, in the absolute best way possible!

Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most.

Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit ⁠lattice.com⁠ to learn more.

0:02:22 - One Truth About Work Cierra Wishes More Leaders Understood

0:04:42 - Why Accountability and Equitable Outcomes are Top Priorities Right Now

0:12:31 - What Accountability and Equity ACTUALLY Means in the Workplace

0:15:24 - What Happens if Companies Don’t Care About Adapting?

0:23:10 - The Gap Between What Employees Expect and What Companies Deliver

0:25:12 - Why Don’t Companies Have an Incentive to Live Up to Their Ideas?

0:41:03 - Invisible Systems and Habits That Quietly Sabotage Equity and Fairness

0:49:55 - A Necessary Shift to Make Accountability and Equity Non-negotiable at Work

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