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S4 E8: The Real Reason New Hires Don’t Stick Around, with Rhona Pierce Jun 10, 2024

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With grandiose job descriptions, and rose-tinted portrayals of the workplace, is it really any wonder there are a lot of problems in recruiting boiling underneath the surface??

A lot of retention problems actually start in the recruiting process..

Is it that far of a stretch to understand why new hires are noping out of fresh jobs in the first six months?

Def not.

In the quest to find the perfect hire, job descriptions and interview tactics often portray a false image of what the position actually entails. So why aren’t recruiters being more honest about the roles they’re hiring for? Hebba chats with Talent Acquisition Consultant and Content Creator Rhona Pierce about how the recruitment system is broken and what HR can do to fix it. How can recruiters be more honest about job descriptions and work culture in their hiring practices?

Hebba and Rhona debate if there’s a way to make employees understand the full scope of a job’s duties during the interview process before revealing some of the best practical strategies that can help retain, attract, and engage qualified talent.

00:00:10 - Recruiting Misconceptions: Valuable Talent Acquisition

00:02:52 - Company Actions That Prompt Immediate Resignation

00:05:01 - Navigating the Gap Between Job Expectations and Reality

00:09:28 - Why People Quit

00:15:14 - Is Recruiting Broken?

00:19:26 - Truth in Interviews

00:23:47 - Asking Questions Before Accepting a Job

00:27:24 - Navigating the Current Job Market

00:36:51 - Transparent Recruiting: Setting Clear Expectations

00:39:35 - Aligning Job Expectations Through Communication

00:44:15 - Maximizing Preparation for Successful Hiring

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S4 E7: I Wish I Knew How to Quit You: RyanMae McAvoy on Leaving HR Jun 03, 2024

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In HR, quitting is a part of the job. But no one talks about what happens when HR is ready to quit HR.

RyanMae McAvoy, Senior Director of People Operations at Blackthorn.io, joins Hebba to unpack quitting from an HR-centric point of view. When is it time to call it quits? And what factors are the primary motivators behind discontentedness in HR?

RyanMae and Hebba break down the emotional aspects of leaving a job, explain why community is pivotal in decision-making, and reveal the greatest challenges faced by HR professionals on a day-to-day basis. They also dive into the role of empathy, boundary-setting, and personal acknowledgment in creating a happier workplace.

Why are so many HR professionals contemplating quitting? And why does it so often feel like HR is on an island of its own? Together, Hebba and RyanMae shed light on the often neglected aspect of HR professionals contemplating leaving the field.

00:00:37 - Accidental HR Career Leads to Leadership

00:03:27 - Improving Employee Retention Through Acknowledgement

00:08:03 - AI vs. Human Touch in HR

00:09:27 - Reasons People Want to Quit

00:12:34 - Coping Through COVID

00:17:44 - Focusing on Mental Health in Workplace

00:21:51 - How to Prioritize Family Time

00:22:09 - Empathy in HR

00:27:40 - Why Setting Expectations is Key for Mental Health

00:31:49 - How to Handle Employee Resignations

00:36:37 - Understanding the Emotional Toll of HR

00:40:56 - Navigating Relationships When Leaving a Job

00:42:53 - Struggling with Authenticity in Workplace

00:48:12 - Balancing Humanity and Work Demands

00:52:17 - Advice for Dealing with Burnout

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S4 E6: Is Constant Change Why Employees Quit? May 28, 2024

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Change doesn’t come easy— in fact, it can be downright disruptive, And worse yet, it’s often at the forefront of employee turnover. So how can HR leaders prevent change from becoming an unmanageable force?

Keynote speaker Tiffany Lanier drops by to chat with Hebba about the widespread impact of organizational change, and to explain how massive restructuring can impact employee well-being.

Having helped thousands of leaders develop systems of support during intense change, Tiffany reveals why change management is a core skill for HR professionals. She explains how, by embracing change, employees can improve their personal well-being and implement practical strategies for creating space for future disruptions.

Tiffany also addresses the different needs and personalities of employees during times of change, from therapy and counseling to the prioritization of spending time alone and sticking to common rituals and routines.

Whether you're undergoing organizational restructuring or dealing with other consequences of change, you won’t want to miss out on these actionable tips to help you prioritize employee well-being.

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S4 E5: Dear Hebba: HR’s Juiciest Questions Answered, with Erica Spitale May 20, 2024

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How can you help employees when a company is small and has limited growth opportunities? What happens when an employer insists there’s a dress code… but only for curvier employees?

Hebba and talent strategist/culture connoisseur Erica Spitale tackle some super juicy questions submitted by listeners. From navigating terminations without legal repercussions to encouraging CEOs to offer more health benefits, they’re tackling a wide range of topics that any HR professional or leader can relate to.

Tune in as Hebba and Erica break down the importance of trust in the workplace, go over the challenges of unrealistic expectations, and explain the value of seeking consistent feedback.

Plus, how can you handle dress code policies, toxic leaders, and professional development opportunities in small companies? You won’t want to miss this expert-level advice—tune in now!

00:01:51 - Avoiding Values Misalignment in Companies

00:03:29 - How to Handle Unhappy Employees

00:09:01 - How to Handle Toxic Leadership

00:13:24 - Regaining Trust in the Workplace

00:17:03 - When Details for a Promotion are Fabricated

00:22:17 - Managing Professional Development in Small Companies

00:27:03 - Encouraging CEOs to Offer Health Benefits

00:33:31 - Considerations for Transitioning from Operations to HR

00:39:06 - Navigating Employee Relations in Nonprofits

00:41:49 - Setting Realistic Expectations and Seeking Feedback

00:47:39 - Curvier Woman Faces Dress Code Dilemma

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S4 E4: Top Tier Retention Strategies, with Stephen and Daniel Huerta May 13, 2024

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Retaining top talent looks easy on paper. So why then, do so many companies have difficulty with their retention strategies?

Hebba chats with “Modern People Leader” podcast hosts Daniel and Stephen Huerta about personalization in the age of information, the rise of AI, and the best ways companies can boost their retention strategies. Having spoken to over 200 people leaders on their pod, Daniel and Stephen understand a thing or two about the importance of a great people ops team.

They break down why trust is so important in the workplace and explain how it can help to improve employee retention rates. They also explore the ways that AI is changing the nature of work and how it might change the way we view HR.

Plus, will the constant in-fighting in HR ever stop? Will it be HR’s ultimate downfall? Daniel, Hebba, and Stephen discuss the ways remote work has changed retention strategies and explain why it’s causing so much bickering within company lines. Is it time to rethink the system?

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00:00:00 - Retaining Top Talent

00:07:55 - Maintaining Trust in the Workplace

00:11:28 - Navigating Remote Work Accountability Challenges

00:15:44 - Causes of Employee Turnover Explored

00:17:49 - HR's Identity Crisis: Retaining Talent

00:25:04 - How AI is Fundamentally Changing the Way We Work

00:27:14 - Retaining Employees Through Clear Communication

00:30:21 - Embrace Remote Work for Success

00:38:57 - Power Dynamics in Retention Strategies

00:44:12 - Improving Talent Mobility in Companies

00:49:43 - Maximizing Employee Retention Through Referrals

00:54:38 - The Hardest C-Suite Job

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S4 E3: In the Hot Seat: A CEO’s Perspective on People Ops, with Workweek’s Adam Ryan May 06, 2024

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Oil and water. Fire and ice. CEOs and CPOs.

Some things just don’t go together like they should. But does it always have to be that way?

In this super candid conversation, Hebba chats with her IRL CEO at Workweek, Adam Ryan, to discuss the complex relationship between CEOs and CPOs. Adam opens up about the CEO’s perspective on HR and shares his thoughts on how HR leaders can build a better relationship with their CEO.

What role can honesty, vulnerability, and empathy play in building a better path forward for both sides? And does there always have to be a conflict of interest between the two departments? Adam reveals what it’s like to hold the weight of an entire company on his shoulders and explains the role that ego can play in conflict.

Plus, what’s the best way to capture the attention of a reluctant or stubborn CEO? Adam shares his best tips for effective communication strategies and opens his playbook for successful HR/CEO relations.

And later, find out the top warning signs and red flags of when a CEO/CPO relationship is about to turn sour and Adam’s super juicy take on why employees leave.

00:00:00 - Navigating the Tension Between HR and CEO

00:01:13 - When Company Values Clash: Reasons to Leave

00:08:57 - CEO and CPO Relationship Dynamics Unpacked

00:13:58 - The Importance of Consistent Communication with CEOs

00:16:56 - Navigating Tensions in Company Communications

00:23:25 - Understanding Your CEO's Perspective in Decision Making

00:28:44 - HR and Finance Roles: A Balancing Act

00:34:37 - Building Strong Working Relationships at Work

00:38:01 - Strengthening HR-CEO Relationship with Empathy

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S4 E2: Should I Stay or Should I Go? What to Do When You Feel Stuck in Your Career, with Tori Lazar Apr 29, 2024

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Feeling stuck in your career?

You’re not alone. Join Hebba and special guest Tori Lazar, a strategic storyteller and executive coach, as they discuss how to recognize career quagmires and turn stalemates into personal growth.

What are the top three warning signs of career unhappiness, and how can leaders be more personally aware of their own internal red flags? Tori shares insights on tapping into your inner child, overcoming fear, and pinpointing the source of unhappiness in your current career.

Tori and Hebba also discuss the fine art of not giving @#$! about what people think of you. How can you get over the fear of not being liked and still advocate for the employees who may view you as public enemy #1? They dive into the role of HR professionals in advocating for employees and explain how to maintain a positive work culture and persevere through the constant barrage of criticism that’s synonymous with the job.

00:02:37 - Tori Lazar: Strategic Storyteller and Executive Coach

00:03:13 - Optimizing Your Time

00:07:13 - Top 3 Signs of Being Stuck in Your Career

00:21:51 - Gen Z Challenges Workplace Norms

00:27:24 - Advocating for Every Employee

00:34:57 - Overcoming Fear in Unfulfilling Careers

00:41:23 - Harnessing Childhood Experiences to Build Confidence

00:43:17 - How Practice Builds Confidence in Overcoming Fear

00:47:23 - Why Great Leaders Need Great HR Departments

00:51:40 - Identifying Unhappiness in HR Careers

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S4 E1: The 3 Biggest Reasons Why Employees Quit, with Jessica Winder Apr 22, 2024

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Why do employees quit?

Compensation, growth opportunities, and environment are usually the top 3 reasons cited.

But what does all that actually mean to the employees and is there anything HR can really do to stop employees from fleeing?

Jessica returns to sit down with Hebba to clear up what growth actually means, the biggest misconceptions about compensation, and red flags to look out for to identify toxic cultures. You’ll hear their take on why counter-offers shouldn’t be a regular practice and if it's even worth trying to recover an employee who is ready to jump ship.

Plus, stay tuned as Hebba and Jessica later discuss navigating conflict in toxic work environments and learning valuable lessons from employee exit interviews.

00:00:00 - Navigating Employee Turnover in HR

00:02:27 - Building a Career Coaching Empire

00:07:22 - Three Pillars That Drive Employee Turnover

00:11:00 - Redefining Growth Beyond Promotions

00:17:22 - Fostering Healthy Growth Through Transparency

00:24:44 - Why Counter Offers Don't Work

00:32:07 - Advocating for Better Employee Experiences

00:33:06 - Recognizing Toxic Work Environments: Red Flags

00:36:23 - Can HR Fix Toxic Workplaces?

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S3 E10: Demystifying Pay Transparency: A Legal Perspective, with Lulu Seikaly Mar 25, 2024

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Whether employers like it or not, greater pay transparency is the future. So why do HR leaders need to start embracing pay transparency rather than fearing it?

Lulu Seikaly, a senior corporate employment attorney with Payscale, sheds light on the topic in a candid conversation with Hebba about the impact of pay transparency laws on employees, the challenges employers face when implementing them, and the future of pay transparency on a global and local scale.

How has Gen Z become the poster child for greater pay transparency practices? Why are employers so darn afraid to post salary ranges? And should employees who live in high-cost-of-living areas earn more than their coworkers?

Lulu chats with Hebba about the rights that employees have in relation to pay transparency and offers advice for companies navigating these laws. She also explains how pay transparency is vital to building a better workplace culture and one of the foremost things HR departments can do to create change for underrepresented groups.

Join in on this informative and thought-provoking discussion as Lulu and Hebba explore the evolving landscape of pay transparency and its implications for organizations and employees.

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01:35 Pay Transparency Laws

07:30 How the Rest of the World Deals with Pay Transparency

10:20 Challenges to Implementing Pay Transparency

16:10 Why Employers Are Afraid of Posting Salary Ranges

24:20 Adhering to Pay Transparency Laws

30:51 Why HR Gets Such a Bad Rap

34:00 Tearing Down the Gender Pay Gap

37:12 The Right to Disconnect Law & the European Work Ethos

41:20 Location Agnostic Pay Ranges

49:20 The Future of Paid Transparency

52:01 Eliminating Bias in Promotions

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S3 E9: Talk Pay to Me: The Viral TikToker Tearing Down the Pay Gap, with Hannah Williams Mar 18, 2024

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“How much do you make?”

It’s the one question that sends chills up corporate spines and the one question every employee is secretly dying to ask one another. But what if it didn’t have to be that way? What if pay was… *gasp* actually transparent?

Meet the viral TikTok sensation daring to bring pay transparency to the forefront of the social media conversation, Hannah Williams.

Sick of corporate America making employees feel powerless in the pay cycle, Hannah’s viral TikTok series, “Salary Transparent Street” set out to tear down the pay transparency wall by encouraging strangers to disclose all the dirty deets of exactly how much they make.

She chats with Hebba about how her personal experience of being underpaid sparked a social media revolution and inspired her to fight back against discriminatory employment practices and pay gaps disproportionately affecting women, POC, disabled communities, and LQBTQIA+ groups.

Together, Hannah and Hebba break down strategies for setting pay bands in a fair and earnest way, discuss why employers are so scared of people talking about pay, and reveal how budget-strapped employers can think outside of the box when it comes to negotiations.

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00:05:50 - Revolutionizing Salary Transparency in Content

00:08:18 - Transparency Leads to Higher Earnings

00:14:35 - Pay Transparency Legislation Also Aids Equality

00:22:05 - Gen Z Advocates for Pay Transparency

00:34:25 - Increasing Employee Motivation with Pay Transparency

00:39:33 - Revisiting Employee Pay Levels for Success

00:45:52 - Employers Fear Being Recorded by Employees

00:49:21 - Hannah’s Shark Tank Experience

00:52:38 - Interviewing Top Content Creators

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