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    How Leaders Lead with David Novak

    How Leaders Lead gives you a front-row seat to exclusive conversations with the world’s most iconic leaders across business, sports, and entertainment. Hosted by David Novak, Co-founder and former CEO of Yum! Brands, this podcast pulls back the curtain on how top CEOs, founders, and game-changers make things happen. When you tune in, you’ll learn from legends like Tom Brady, Condoleezza Rice, Jamie Dimon, Coach Prime (Deion Sanders), Indra Nooyi, Stanley Druckenmiller, and more.
    Other guests include:

    CEO of Starbucks

    CEO of Target

    Co-founder of Home Depot

    and many others…

    David’s unique perspective and thought-provoking questions distill the wisdom of these leaders into actionable insights you can use to elevate your own leadership game. Whether you’re just starting your leadership journey or already leading teams, this show helps you build the confidence you need to lead well.

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    #272: 5 ideas to lead with more clarity in 2026 Jan 01, 2026
    Show notes

    Happy New Year! We’re ringing in 2026 with a special episode to help you lead with more intention and focus this year.

    And this time, Koula puts David in the hot seat! He shares the five simple practices he returns to every year to build momentum (without burning out by February). One is simple enough to fit on an index card.
    If you want to make 2026 the year you focus on the right things (not just more things), then this is the episode for you.

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    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The How Leaders Lead App⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A vast library of 90-second leadership lessons to stay sharp on the go

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Daily Insight Emails⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: One small (but powerful!) leadership principle to focus on each day

    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #271: Childhood moments that shaped the world’s top leaders Dec 25, 2025
    Show notes

    In this special holiday episode, David and Koula revisit one of our favorite questions around here:

    What’s a story from your childhood that shaped the kind of leader you are today?

    You’ll hear funny, insightful stories from past guests like Jamie Dimon (CEO of JPMorgan Chase), Lynsi Snyder (Owner of In-N-Out), Andy Jassy (CEO Amazon), and many more top leaders.

    As you slow down for the holiday season to spend time with your loved ones, let this episode remind you how important it is to know your own story and learn from it at every stage of life

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #270: Allison Ellsworth, Founder & Lead Creative, poppi – Build your brand Dec 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Go behind the scenes of one of today’s hottest brands with Allison Ellsworth, founder and Lead Creative at poppi.

    After a memorable Shark Tank appearance, poppi exploded into the cultural zeitgeist – going viral on TikTok, getting shout-outs from celebrities, and scaling from startup to $500 million in just four years.

    In this episode, Allison shares how to build a brand that moves fast, disrupts in all the right ways, and knows exactly how to stay culturally relevant.

    You’ll also learn:

    • What a “black ops budget” is – and why you need one!
    • The importance of building a brand, not just selling a product
    • What it’s really like to pitch on Shark Tank
    • Channel-by-channel social media tips (one might make you squirm)


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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #269: Damola Adamolekun, CEO, Red Lobster – Show the path to success Dec 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Can Red Lobster pull off the greatest comeback in restaurant history? After filing for bankruptcy, shedding value, and losing relevance, it won’t be easy.

    But it’s the kind of challenge that Damola Adamolekun thrives in. After returning P.F. Chang’s to profitability, he is now making waves as Red Lobster’s youngest-ever CEO.

    In this episode, he shares what it’s like to lead at a young age, the strategies that work in a turnaround, and how to show your team a clear path to success without sugarcoating the truth.

    You’ll also learn:

    • The #1 reason companies falter after longstanding success
    • Practical tips for anyone leading in a struggling business
    • A mindset shift to help you better at accepting criticism
    • Why your energy around the office matters more than you think

    Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources:

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The How Leaders Lead App⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A vast library of 90-second leadership lessons to stay sharp on the go

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #268: Gregg Renfrew, Founder and CEO of Counter – Step back to move forward Dec 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Imagine this: you build a company from scratch, sell it at a billion-dollar valuation, get ousted, and watch it crumble under new leadership…

    Then you buy it back, shut it down, rebrand it, relaunch it – and grow it all over again.

    That’s exactly what Gregg Renfrew, the Founder and CEO of clean beauty brand Counter (formerly Beautycounter) has done.

    In this episode, she opens up about the emotional and strategic rollercoaster behind one of the most dramatic stories in recent business history. She shares what she’s learned about product development, resilience, and why, sometimes, you’ve got to take a step back if you want to move forward.

    You’ll also learn:

    • The power of emotional connection – and emotional distance
    • Why you probably have too many products
    • How Martha Stewart taught her NOT to lead
    • Her no-BS take on beauty standards (hint: it’s actually a lesson in confidence)

    Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources:

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The How Leaders Lead App⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A vast library of 90-second leadership lessons to stay sharp on the go

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #267: Michael Meldman, Founder and Chairman of Discovery Land Company – Be one of one in your category Nov 27, 2025
    Show notes

    How do you make your brand stand out?

    Ask Michael Meldman. He’s the founder of Discovery Land Company, a global portfolio of high-end private golf communities known for doing things differently. By tossing out the traditional country club rulebook and building around comfort and community, he’s created a truly distinctive brand.

    He’s also a co-founder of Casamigos Tequila, the billion-dollar brand he built with George Clooney.

    In this episode, he shares how he builds brands that deliver exactly what the market wants and needs. If you want to create something unique or stand out in your category, don’t miss this one.

    You’ll also learn:

    • What most leaders get wrong about brand experience
    • The key to attracting great talent
    • How to sell your product’s emotional benefits (not just its features)

    Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources:

    ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The How Leaders Lead App⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A vast library of 90-second leadership lessons to stay sharp on the go

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #266: Richard Fain, Former CEO of Royal Caribbean Group – Push past comfortable Nov 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Today’s cruise ships are floating cities – complete with waterslides, sushi bars, and even roller skating rinks.

    But it wasn’t always that way. Today, we’re joined by the leader who helped pioneer the megaship era and transform Royal Caribbean into a global vacation powerhouse.

    Richard Fain served as CEO for 33 years, building a culture where big ideas could thrive and the whole team was willing to push past what was comfortable or passable in order to deliver truly “wow” experiences.

    If you want to create a culture that’s big on innovation, don’t miss this episode.

    You’ll also learn:

    • What “UFB” stands for (you can probably guess the middle letter)
    • The surprisingly simple strategy that can help your internal initiatives take off
    • How to apply the rule of thirds to your innovation strategy
    • Why he got an emergency phone call from the Swedish Air Force

    Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources:

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #265: Jim McCann, American entrepreneur and former CEO of 1-800-Flowers – Find a way to connect Nov 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Jim McCann didn’t set out to become an entrepreneur. He was a social worker and bartender before finding his way into the floral business. But no matter what he did, he always found a way to connect with people.

    That instinct eventually led him to build 1-800-Flowers, where he expanded the business strategically, turned it into a household brand, and tapped into the power of customer relationships long before it became a buzzword.

    In this episode, he shares the lessons that have carried him through decades of reinvention – and why, no matter what technology disruptions may come, smart leadership always comes down to connection.

    You’ll also learn:

    • A simple philosophy for a smart product expansion strategy
    • What it means to be an “engineer” of culture (and why it matters)
    • Why working with teenagers gave him a crash course in leadership
    • The #1 thing you need to do now to prepare your team for the disruption of AI

    Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources:

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #264: Bracken Darrell, CEO of VF Corporation – Good design can make anything better Nov 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Bracken Darrell led remarkable turnarounds at both Old Spice and Logitech. Now he’s the CEO of VF Corporation, where he’s working to revitalize iconic brands like The North Face, Timberland, Vans, and more.

    Hit play on this episode and take a look at his playbook. It’s all about constantly growing and designing things to be better – whether it’s a product, a team, or his own understanding of quantum mechanics (no, really).

    You’ll also learn:

    • The weird way he keeps a fresh outlook on his job
    • The power of design, even outside of product development
    • Why you’re an artist whether you realize it or not (and why that matters)
    • One thing every great brand has in common

    Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources:

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


    #263: Whitney Wolfe Herd, Founder and CEO of Bumble – Your mission is your mobilizer Oct 30, 2025
    Show notes

    She flipped the script on modern dating and built a billion dollar global brand.

    But Whitney Wolfe Herd’s path to success hasn’t been easy. After co-founding Tinder and walking away under difficult circumstances, she founded Bumble, a dating platform where women make the first move.

    In this refreshingly honest conversation, she opens up about her missteps and lessons, how she’s redefined success, and why an obsessive focus on a bigger mission has made all the difference in her company culture.

    She also shares:

    • The near-spiritual moment that sparked Bumble’s “women make the first move” philosophy
    • What most people totally miss about marketing
    • Candid advice for women navigating toxic work situations or relationships
    • How AI might reshape not just dating, but our understanding of compatibility

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    Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business.


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