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    HORSE, FIRST – with Lockie Phillips

    Yes, but let’s put the horse first! Taking a clear, ethical stance on horsemanship without judgement. We are observant, humble, clear eyed, regulated and deeply respectful of our equine partners.

    This podcast is not:
    Not human self-help using horses as metaphors
    Not romantic liberty training mythology
    Not moral superiority
    Not training evangelism

    This podcast is:

    Deep listening
    Thoughtful questioning
    Slowing down human narratives
    Allowing the horse to be the authority

    Join Lockie Phillips, the horseman behind Emotional Horsemanship, as we explore the inner world of the horse, the human systems that impact horses and building functional, ethical partnerships with horses where the horse is the authority on correctness. Guests from all around the world plus solo episodes to build connections based on truth telling, community and the joy of the HORSE FIRST way of life.

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    Noticing What Your Vet Might Miss Apr 13, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips shares a personal story following a new diagnosis in his own horse, and the process that led there.

    This is not just a conversation about health. It’s about attention. About the quiet moments where something doesn’t feel right, and the choice to trust that feeling even when answers aren’t clear.

    Lockie speaks candidly about noticing early signs, navigating veterinary input, and the importance of advocating for your horse with clarity and respect. This episode explores the reality that vets, while essential, do not know your horse the way you do—and why the best outcomes often come from a collaborative, rather than hierarchical, relationship.

    It also brings focus back to the fundamentals: care, nutrition, training, and environment as active parts of treatment, not afterthoughts.

    If you’ve ever felt unsure, dismissed, or hesitant to speak up for your horse—this episode is a reminder:

    You are not just the owner.
    You are part of the solution.

    And you know your horse.

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.

    A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.

    With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.

    Not a system to obey.
    A craft to practice.

    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    When a Horse Learns You Will Listen Apr 01, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips explores the delicate moment when a horse begins to trust that their communication will be met with attention, not override. Beyond compliance and beyond silence, this is where real partnership starts to form: a horse who can follow guidance without disappearing, and a human who can lead without crowding the space. A reflective and hopeful conversation about advocacy, clarity, and the kind of training that becomes possible when listening is more than an idea, it’s a lived experience.

    If Emotional Horsemanship resonates, the best place to begin is the EH School.

    A flexible, affordable learning community with:

    • a complete video library
    • a private forum away from social media
    • live coaching calls with Lockie

    It’s designed for horse people who want to go deeper, ask better questions, and make progress without sacrificing welfare or integrity.

    Not for everyone. Exactly right for some.

    https://emotionalhorsemanship.com/eh-school-sign-up

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Horsemanship Must Evolve (with Leslie Desmond) Mar 25, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by horsewoman and author Leslie Desmond for a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of horsemanship. Together they reflect on the major eras that have shaped how humans train and understand horses, exploring what those traditions got right, where their insights remain valuable, and where new knowledge invites revision. The discussion moves from the vaquero and ranch traditions through modern horsemanship movements, and into the responsibilities facing today’s horse people. Leslie and Lockie explore what the next generation may need to contribute if horsemanship is to continue evolving in ways that honor both the horse and the relationship. A thoughtful, forward-looking conversation about lineage, learning, and the future of horse culture.

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.

    A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.

    With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.

    Not a system to obey.
    A craft to practice.


    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    When Anxiety Takes Up the Room Mar 18, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips explores a quieter form of dominance that often goes unnamed in horse culture: the way human anxiety, overthinking, and unresolved tension can fill the space around a horse, even in the absence of force. When a handler’s internal experience becomes the centre of gravity, horses adapt by shrinking, complying, or going quiet. This conversation offers a steady lens on proportion, regulation, and what it means to truly make room for the horse’s voice. A grounding episode for anyone learning to stay present without taking up too much space.

    The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.

    A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.

    With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.

    Not a system to obey.
    A craft to practice.


    https://emotionalhorsemanship.com/eh-school-sign-up

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Who Is Taking Care of the Therapy Horse? (With Amanda Held) Mar 13, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips sits down with Amanda Held, a horsewoman working at the intersection of therapeutic horsemanship and horse behaviour. Drawing from years of experience in equine-assisted programs, Amanda shares insights into how horses communicate their internal state and why reading those signals matters deeply when horses are asked to support human healing. Together they explore the potential blind spots within equine therapy settings, the responsibility humans carry when horses serve people therapeutically, and what it truly means to keep the horse’s wellbeing at the centre of the work. The conversation also touches on Amanda’s development of a new app designed to help horse owners better identify what their horses may be feeling in real time, opening the door to more informed, compassionate partnerships.

    https://www.facebook.com/amanda.coalethompson

    https://equinewisdominstitute.org

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.

    A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.

    With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.

    Not a system to obey.
    A craft to practice.


    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    The Skill of Not Rushing Mar 04, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips explores why urgency runs so deep in horse culture, and why slowing down is often the most competent choice we can make. When speed gets mistaken for discipline, horses lose space to learn, communicate, and stay whole. This conversation looks at the myth that faster means better, the reality of changing capacity in both horse and human, and the quiet strength of choosing accuracy over appearance. A grounding invitation to breathe, reassess, and remember that nothing meaningful is lost by waiting.

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and confidence, with horses first.

    If you’re looking for a steady place to learn, reflect, and progress without force or overwhelm, you’ll feel at home here.

    https://emotionalhorsemanship.com/eh-school-sign-up

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    The Cost of Ignoring the Body (with Becks Nairn) Feb 25, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by Becks Nairn, equine dissectionist, educator, and long-time advocate working across rescue, education, and welfare. Becks brings an anatomically grounded lens to questions of behaviour and performance, challenging many of the stories we’ve been taught to tell about “problem horses.” Together, they explore what the body reveals about pain, adaptation, and compensation, and what this knowledge demands of us when it comes to breeding, husbandry, and training. Recorded at a moment when Becks is newly able to speak more plainly about issues she was previously constrained from addressing, this conversation is honest, unflinching, and deeply necessary for anyone who wants to understand horses beyond surface behaviour.

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.

    A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.

    With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.

    Not a system to obey.
    A craft to practice.


    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Love Isn’t the Measure Feb 18, 2026
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    In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips explores the uneasy but essential truth that good intentions don’t always prevent harm. Impact and blame are not the same thing, and horses need our clarity far more than our guilt. Together, we unpack how love can create blind spots, why discomfort is often a sign of growth, and what accountability looks like when it makes us more capable instead of smaller. A steady conversation for anyone learning to stay open, listen deeper, and do differently once they know better.

    Come and learn with Lockie in the EH SCHOOL, a low-cost, high value, flexible community where a video library, discussion forum (off social media) and live coaching calls with Lockie help you get to the heart of the matter with your horsemanship.

    https://emotionalhorsemanship.com/eh-school-sign-up

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Year of the Fire Horse (with Kat HoSoo Lee) Feb 11, 2026
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    In this special episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by Kat HoSoo Lee for a conversation on the Year of the Fire Horse. Together, they explore what it means to move through a season of intensity, transformation, and truth-telling, both in ourselves and in horse culture. This is an episode about heat and clarity, about the parts of horsemanship that can no longer be performed or avoided, and the kind of courage it takes to stay present when old patterns burn away. A reflective and grounding dialogue on change, accountability, and the deeper listening that becomes possible when we let the fire refine rather than destroy.
    Kat is an emotional alchemist, nature nerd, Daoist, aspiring homesteader, and writer living in eastern Washington with her husband and their menagerie. Substack: https://emotionalalchemy.substack.com/
    IG: https://www.instagram.com/kat.hosoo.lee
    Magazine: https://www.interbeingmag.com/

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.

    A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.

    With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.

    Not a system to obey.
    A craft to practice.


    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Noticing Normal Feb 05, 2026
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    Noticing Normal is an episode about the quiet ways harm can hide inside routine, especially in horse culture, where “this is just how it’s done” can slowly replace curiosity. Lockie Phillips explores how familiarity dulls perception, how the horse world teaches us what not to see, and the subtle signs horses offer long before anything breaks down. This isn’t a conversation about blame, it’s an invitation to wake back up, to question what’s become ordinary, and to remember that real care begins with noticing.

    Come and learn with Lockie in the EH SCHOOL, a low-cost, high value, flexible community where a video library, discussion forum (off social media) and live coaching calls with Lockie help you get to the heart of the matter with your horsemanship.
    https://emotionalhorsemanship.com/eh-school-sign-up

    Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
    A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.

    Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.

    This is not about following a method.
    It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf

    For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!


    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


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