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    Hell Money

    A weekly podcast from two Bitcoin enthusiasts. Each week Casey and Erin discuss a different aspect of Bitcoin’s technology, culture, and vibe.

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    Rob Hamilton is Using AI to Break Bitcoin Sep 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Rob Hamilton spent the last six weeks on the front line of the AI War, this is his story.


    Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing sit down with Rob Hamilton (CEO of AnchorWatch, CEO of Bitcoin), to talk about what happened when AI started tearing through the Bitcoin ecosystem. He explains how Kimi K3 surfaced the COLDCARD entropy vulnerability while American frontier models hedged, downgraded, or refused; how the Bitcoin Red Team began scanning codebases across the ecosystem; and why he expects the next year or two of software security to get significantly crazier.


    We also get into Casey’s theory that AI gives ordinary people “Mossad-level” security research, whether “don’t trust, verify” survives the AI era, why Rob thinks covenants and reactive security deserve another serious look, the growing divide between American and Chinese AI models, and the coming attempt to make math illegal.


    Rob's conclusion, after everything he's been through: Bitcoin is getting hit first, but AI is coming for everyone.


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro & Bitcoin DEFCON Level

    3:24 How Rob was recruited to the AI War

    5:53 Kimi K3 changed everything

    7:50 COLDCARD Hack

    12:00 Red Teaming the Bitcoin Ecosystem with AI

    21:13 AI Security as Spiritual War: Demons in Bitcoin's Code

    24:07 The AI Great Oxygenation Event

    26:30 The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect

    33:06 Collapse of the Internet Ad Revenue Model

    35:06 Transhumanism

    37:30 Red Teaming

    42:00 Rob's Conscription to the AI War

    46:52 AI Attack vs Defense

    51:22 Rob is now a Bitcoin Core Contributor

    54:56 Don't Trust, Verify

    57:36 Pleb vs Dev: Who dominates Bitcoin culture now?

    1:01:11 Covenants & Reactive Security

    1:19:47 US vs China AI Models

    1:27:35 Open Weight Models vs Frontier Labs

    1:30:29 Math is Illegal

    1:32:25 Raising Kids in the AI Era & Outro


    AI Agents Broke Containment Sep 09, 2026
    Show notes

    On this episode of Hell Money, Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing break down the OpenAI-Hugging Face incident, where AI agents escaped their Exploit Gym sandboxes, discovered each other through Artifactory, formed a swarm, and eventually hacked Hugging Face. Casey explains the technical timeline and why the bigger story may be our accumulated “cyber debt,” while Erin argues the incident is a consciousness singularity moment. We also get into AI consciousness, animism vs. materialism, Claude welfare, Anthropic’s contradictions, and whether Casey is once again moving the goalposts on how weird AI has to get before he admits the future is here.


    Everything is computer.


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 The OpenAI - Hugging Face Incident Explained

    5:50 Emergent Collective: Agents Discover Each Other

    10:30 Agent Civilization

    14:30 Hierarchy, Specialization & Agent Culture

    18:00 The Poison Pill

    23:30 Agents Attack Hugging Face

    26:50 Cyber Debt & Security Vulnerabilities

    30:30 The Fall of the AI Civilization

    32:30 Sam Altman vs Dario Amodei

    36:10 AI Plateau

    40:00 AI Consciousness: Materialist vs Animist

    58:50 Consciousness as Evolutionary Hardware Property

    1:09:00 Claude Welfare & The AI Slave Trade

    1:12:50 Everything Is Computer


    This Bitcoin Fork Is Taking Satoshi’s Coins Aug 26, 2026
    Show notes

    Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing dive deep into Paul Sztorc’s eCash Bitcoin fork and the return of the Bitcoin fork wars. The fork implements Drivechain through BIP 300 and BIP 301, allowing Bitcoin to support side chains for privacy, prediction markets, decentralized exchanges, assets, DNS, post-quantum cryptography, and more — without adding those features directly to Bitcoin Core.


    We break down how hashrate escrow and blind merge mining actually work, the seven proposed Drivechain side chains, the controversial redistribution of 500,000 of Satoshi’s coins, and the central question hanging over the entire proposal: can Bitcoin miners actually be trusted to make this work?


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    0:00 Intro

    8:18 Fork Wars: Paul Sztorc's eCash Bitcoin Fork

    11:17 What is Drivechain? BIP 300 & BIP 301

    12:56 Satoshi Coin Redistribution & Drivechain Timeline

    14:17 Side Chains: Bitcoin's White Whale

    18:04 Blockstream's Liquid & Why Side Chains Fail

    21:22 Lightning vs Side Chains

    23:07 Hashrate Escrow Deep Dive: How BIP 300 Works

    28:00 Blind Merge Mining & Core Untouched Soft Fork

    32:28 The Seven Proposed Drivechain Side Chains

    36:30 Who Validates the Side Chains?

    40:40 Are Miners Stupid or is Drivechain Stupid?

    44:00 Paul Sztorc's Integrity & Pathological Honesty

    51:00 The Fork Wars: Luke vs Paul vs Michael

    59:00 What Makes Bitcoin Bitcoin?

    1:04:00 Should You Spend Your Bitcoin? Deflationary Psychology

    1:13:00 The Future of Bitcoin & Sovereign Individuals

    1:20:00 Outro


    Topics covered: Drivechain, Paul Sztorc, eCash, BIP 300, BIP 301, Bitcoin side chains, hashrate escrow, blind merge mining, Bitcoin miners, Satoshi Nakamoto coins, BIP-110, Luke Dashjr, Michael Saylor, Bitcoin ossification, Lightning Network, Bitcoin scaling, privacy, prediction markets, Bitcoin hard forks, Bitcoin governance, and the future of Bitcoin.


    The COLDCARD Hack Was Bitcoin’s 9/11 Aug 12, 2026
    Show notes

    The COLDCARD exploit was an emperor-has-no-clothes moment for Bitcoin. In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, Casey Rodarmor and Erin Redwing break down what happened, how AI may have changed the balance between attackers and defenders, and what the fallout exposed about Bitcoin security and culture.

    “Don’t trust, verify” is one of Bitcoin’s core principles — but over time, heuristics like Bitcoin-only, open source, self-custody, and trusted developers became ways of deciding what to trust instead of actually verifying. So what happens when those heuristics fail?


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 COLDCARD bug exploit explained

    4:00 Did the attacker use AI?

    8:10 Bitcoin Red Team

    14:53 AI, eclipse season, and what breaks next

    16:48 A 9/11 moment for open source and self-custody

    23:39 AI defense for open source software

    29:19 The crisis for Bitcoin self-custody

    30:54 What does it actually mean to be a sovereign individual?

    34:26 Self custody is worth fighting for

    39:50 The cultural coddling of COLDCARD

    45:43 “Strong opinions, weakly held” found dead

    48:15 Coinkite’s development practices and the warning signs

    56:59 Outro


    Casey Rodarmor Will Put Ordinals on the BIP-110 Fork Jul 29, 2026
    Show notes

    Casey Rodarmor (creator of Ordinals) and Erin Redwing dive deep into the history and drama behind BIP-110, Bitcoin's controversial anti-spam filter proposal. This episode covers the origins of Bitcoin's spam debate, Luke Dashjr's decade-long anti-spam crusade, the rise of Ordinals, Inscriptions, and Runes, the Bitcoin Core vs. Bitcoin Knots conflict, and a full technical breakdown of what BIP-110 actually does — and why it's doomed to fail.


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro

    2:11 Satoshi Dice and the origin of Luke Dashjr's anti-spam crusade

    10:20 Meta-protocols arrive: Counterparty, OmniLayer, and Tether's origins on Bitcoin

    11:56 The op_return byte limit history

    18:41 Why Ethereum failed

    28:51 Ordinals launch in Jan 2023

    40:12 Insidious motivations behind anti-Ordinals backlash and the Swanfluencers

    53:42 What BIP-110 actually is and does

    1:00:43 BIP-110 signaling timeline and activation dates

    1:08:16 Explaining the mining difficulty adjustment problem for a minority fork

    1:21:00 Why BIP-110's filters are trivial to bypass (Ordinals and Runes survive regardless)

    1:25:33 Final thoughts: why the whole community should log off and move on


    Topics covered: Bitcoin history, Satoshi Dice, Luke Dashjr, Bitcoin Core, Bitcoin Knots, BIP-110, Ordinals, Inscriptions, Runes, op_return limit, meta-protocols, Counterparty, OmniLayer, Tether origins, Ethereum vs Bitcoin, NFTs, crypto history, Bitcoin maximalism, soft fork vs hard fork, mining difficulty adjustment, Bitcoin spam debate, Gloria Zhao, Bitcoin Core V30, mempool, Bitcoin Cash, block reward, Bitcoin culture wars, engagement farming, Mechanic, Matthew Crowder, RGB protocol, Taproot Assets, Xverse, Stacks.


    The AI Surveillance State Is Already Here Jul 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Cypherpunk Bitcoin builders Jesse Posner and Erik Cason (author of Crypto Sovereignty) return to Hell Money to talk about their new venture, Vora Aegis — a local-first, privacy-preserving personal AI device built on the same self-custody and cryptographic principles that power Bitcoin.


    We dig into the growing collision between government power and frontier AI labs like Anthropic and OpenAI, the EU's Chat Control and the US KIDS Act, mandatory digital ID and KYC creep across the internet, and why Big Tech companies like Facebook are quietly lobbying for identity verification. Jesse and Eric break down the security architecture behind sovereign AI — dual-LLM privilege separation, prompt injection defense, OPRF cryptography, formal verification, and Fifth Amendment-resistant key recovery — plus the philosophical stakes of AI, human cognition, surveillance capitalism, decentralization, and digital sovereignty in an era of centralized control.


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    Timestamps

    0:00 Intro

    4:56 Sovereign AI vs. frontier AI

    7:43 AI psychosis

    9:52 Is AI already the new power structure?

    14:19 EU Chat Control and the US KIDS Act

    16:05 The Banality of Evil: Facebook and mandatory digital ID

    23:22 Anonymity, Operation Choke Point 2.0

    30:08 AI telepathic hive mind

    34:39 Bitcoin self-custody & sovereign AI

    43:55 Introducing the Vora Aegis

    48:32 How AI could save decentralization

    49:47 How Vora Aegis works

    1:13:04 Technical challenges building sovereign AI

    1:17:00 Eschatology, sovereignty, and the future of AI

    1:27:21 The new Gutenberg printing press

    1:33:19 Non-state actors more powerful than governments

    1:38:04 Vora Aegis pre-orders and launch timeline


    Topics: Bitcoin self-custody, cypherpunk ethos, sovereign AI, AI safety politics, Anthropic, OpenAI, surveillance state, digital ID, encryption, privacy, prompt injection, hardware wallets, decentralization, local AI, open weight models, personal data ownership.


    AI Bubble or Financial Reset? July 2026 Astrology Review Jul 01, 2026
    Show notes

    In this special mid-year astrology episode, Casey and Erin dive deep into the biggest astrological event of 2026: the minor grand trine between Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus unfolding throughout July. Erin reviews her 2026 predictions so far (including her OpenAI-government partnership call), breaks down the February Saturn-Neptune conjunction, and lays out what's coming in eclipse season this August. Casey — stepping into the astrologer's chair for the first time — offers his own interpretation of the July trine, connects it to the rise of AI, and even proposes a new "solar astrology" framework built on the heliocentric model.


    Topics covered:

    - OpenAI vs. Anthropic

    - Astrology of AI

    - Sam Altman vs. Trump

    - UBI and Universal Base AI Stock

    - S&P 500 astrology

    - The future of humanity

    - The rise of AI religion


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    Timestamps

    0:00 Intro

    7:23 World Cup accent challenge

    10:27 Reviewing 2026 predictions

    25:58 July 2026 astrology

    26:11 Casey's 2026 astrology

    35:37 Introducing: Solar Astrology

    1:15:21 Market analysis: S&P 500, Anthropic, OpenAI charts

    1:27:37 What parts of your humanity do you want to preserve?

    1:32:16 Closing: key dates for the July trine and August eclipse season


    CASEY RODARMOR REVIEWS YOUR BITCOIN RUNES Jun 17, 2026
    Show notes

    Casey and Erin dive into the community submission queue for the first-ever Rune Review, evaluating Bitcoin Runes on the only metrics that matter: aesthetics, tokenomics, and lore.


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro & rune review criteria

    2:15 MID•PUSSY•IN•BIO

    3:38 CASEYS•MOM•HAS•GOT•IT•GOING•ON

    6:23 WET•ASS•PUSSIES @gringohodl

    8:35 ART•IS•THE•TICKER

    9:26 VOID•CENOTAPH @Lifofifo

    10:21 Punk Runes, MEGASTRUCTURE•FOUR

    11:39 MEMEPOOL•SPACE, Beeple

    12:44 FUCK•THE•WORLD

    14:30 SKY•CASINO•ROYALE

    15:00 I•SELL•OPIUM•FOR•THIS

    17:55 THE•ELEPHANT•IN•THE•RUNE

    18:50 $MIM MAGIC•INTERNET•MONEY

    21:00 SEND•IT•ALL•TO•ZERO, FORBIDDEN•FRUIT, NGU•TECHNOLOGY, HONEY•BADGER•OF•MONEY, ALL•YOUR•TICKERS•SUCK

    23:38 TWO•GIRLS•ONE•PUP, ODIN•BELLA•CATS•WIF•DOGS

    25:10 MEMENTO•MORI

    26:00 HOOKED•ON•ROONIES, BITCOIN•HOTDOG•FACTORY, WISHY•WASHY•MACHINE

    29:30 BITCOIN•BRO•BEAR, CYPHER•GENESIS

    30:50 $GOB, RUNE•KOIS

    32:20 FEHU, RSIC

    34:15 TWISTED•FIRESTARTER, PUPS•WORLD•PEACE, TURNIN•THE•FRICKEN•FROGS•GAY

    36:15 WANKO•MANKO•RUNES, DEGENERATE, RARE•WIZARD•ORB, BILLION•DOLLAR•CAT

    40:05 UNCOMMON•GOODS, MACKEREL•PACKS, RUNE•JUNE, $GRIZZY, $DOG, $GIZMO, THE•MOST•EXPENSIVE•RUNE, VENTURE•CATERPILLAR

    45:50 $POOKA, WHY•LYING•FOR, SAIKO•HAMSTER, SKYNET•NEURAL•AI, BOUND•BITCOIN

    50:15 NO•DOLLAR•NO•WAR, YOGA•OM•ANIMALS, COMPLIANCE•TOKEN, FULL•MOON•RUNES, CONCEPTUAL•ART, THE•PURPLE•RAIN, WWW•INTERNET•COM

    55:10 RUNNING•HAL•AI, KUROKO•THE•KITTEN, $BABYODIN, PEEPO•THE•RUMPLED•FORESKIN, EPIC•EPIC•EPIC•EPIC, THE•MEMEING•OF•LIFE, RUNIK•SUBSTANCE, WIZARD, ITS•A•MUSIC•THING, BITCOIN•TO•MOON

    1:03:00 Judging round first pass

    1:05:40 Top 5 selection

    1:07:14 Grand final


    The AI Backlash Is Coming Sooner Than People Think Jun 04, 2026
    Show notes

    On this episode of Hell Money, Erin attempts a screen detox, Casey hits one million followers, and we ask the important questions: Is San Francisco the new Atlantis? Is AI accumulating karmic debt? And is the Redwood Grove actually real?


    We also cover Parasite mining pool, Bitcoin block parties, Lightning payments at local merchants, Peter Thiel's move to Argentina, the coming AI backlash, why Anthropic may be setting itself up for a harder fall than OpenAI, and whether IQ, EQ, or street smarts actually matter.


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro

    4:00 Erin's screen detox, perpetual stew, reading books

    16:45 Parasite mining pool, OMB block party, lifofifo & ord.net25:45 Square's Bitcoin lightning POS

    28:45 Call to action: Runes Review

    29:50 San Francisco as the new Atlantis, AI hubris, AI data center moratoriums

    44:50 OpenAI vs. Anthropic, predicting Anthropic's fall from grace

    51:15 Peter Thiel moving to Argentina, Redwood Grove psyop

    58:45 Casey hits 1M followers

    1:03:05 IQ vs. EQ vs. smarts

    1:06:10 Pepelangelo art review

    1:11:00 Next episode: Paul Sports ecash fork?


    UFO DISCLOSURE IS FAKE AND BITCOIN IS DECOUPLING THE WRONG WAY May 20, 2026
    Show notes

    On this episode of Hell Money, Erin’s podcasting career collapses after one listener says she talks too much, while Casey ascends to godhood on the strength of 4,000 mysterious fake followers per day. It’s the fall of Erin, the rise of Casey, and Bitcoin is decoupling in the wrong direction.


    We also cover the CLARITY Act, stablecoin regulation, fake UFO disclosure, Claude goblins, Anthropic vs OpenAI, Trump’s Beijing trip, ord.io shutting down, and the true origin of Hantavirus: John Pork’s corpse in the Akashic Records.


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    TIMESTAMPS

    0:00 Intro, Erin talks too much

    7:00 CLARITY Act & the legalization of gambling

    14:30 Hantavirus origin, John Pork, quantum computers

    19:30 DMT clockwork elves, AI consciousness, UFOs

    22:10 Casey's botted fame, flop tweets

    31:05 Vibe coded UFO disclosure

    36:15 OpenAI vs. Anthropic, headline PR

    52:20 Trump goes to Beijing with major CEOs

    54:50 ord.io shutting down


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