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41, Holly Harris, Architect, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP BD-C at SmithGroup Jan 15, 2021

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On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Holly Harris, Architect, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP BD-C at SmithGroup. Holly, at age 28, holds the honor of being our youngest guest on the show to date, and she shares her perspective on healthcare architecture and design in today's world. Cheryl asks Holly the question, "Many interior design and interior architect students have been known to shy away from specializing in healthcare because they see it as unsexy and boring. What do you say to that and what would you say to them?" Holly's answer was inspiring. She quickly responded with, "If you don't like what you've experienced or have seen in the world, then you could be the one to change it." Cheryl knew right then and there, she was speaking to a next generation leader in this industry. Holly shares her perspective on the changing face of healthcare architecture and design, and so much more on today's episode of the podcast.

Learn more about Holly Harris and SmithGroup by visiting https://www.smithgroup.com/ or reach out to Holly directly via her LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollymharris/

In Cheryl's conversation with Holly Harris, they discuss:

What is it like to be a young 28 year old healthcare architect in today's world, and what differences in perspective does being young offer to the field?
How "seeing behind the curtain" in a surgery suite in a hospital opened Holly's eyes to empathy in healthcare.
How did Holly end up in healthcare architecture at such a young age?
The scope and some of the intricate details of SmithGroups' Northwestern Memorial Hospital project in Chicago.
What it was like to work on an 80,000 square foot renovation and addition at this NMH.
What's it like for Holly to serve as the Co-Chair of the AIA Chicago Healthcare Knowledge Community and program, executing educational and networking events for the membership?
For 2021-2022, Holly will be serving as the Young Architect Regional Director (YARD) for AIA IL. Learn more about YARD and what Holly will be doing in this new role
What's it like for Holly to work on large healthcare projects with more seasoned colleagues? Is there conflict or is the process generous in sharing and learning?

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Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/

Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Holly Harris, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP BD-C at SmithGroup, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

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Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Holly Harris, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

40, Jenny Hastings, IIDA, CID, LEED AP ID+C, EDAC, Principal at Boulder Associates Architects Dec 18, 2020

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Jenny Hastings, Principal at Boulder Associates Architects is Cheryl's guest today on the podcast. Cheryl asks Jenny the question, "How has the pandemic affected Lean Management Practices in your firm?" Jenny begins, "We have projects that are speeding up, some that are slowing down. Some projects that will go on hold one week and then pick up the next, and I hear this from friends at other firms." Learn more about Lean Management philosophies and trying to work smarter and more efficiently during this time of the pandemic and moving forward on today's episode of podcast. Learn more about Jenny Hastings and Boulder Associates Architects by visiting: https://www.boulderassociates.com/.

In Cheryl's conversation with Jenny Hastings, they discuss:

How Jenny and Boulder Associates responded to the pandemic and what it was like during those first few months of the crisis.
What are the biggest changes Boulder Associates is seeing?
How has the pandemic affected BA's Lean Management Practices?
How working from home has created more connectivity among BA's team.
Why Jenny feels an intense obligation in this work to patients and their families.
Who was the researcher BA brought in to the firm that Jenny has worked closely with through an entity the firm calls Examine? What is Examine?
One of BA's cancer center projects where patients helped the firm in the design of the center, and what the firm learned.
What does Jenny mean when she says, "You can design the perfect environment but if the process doesn't support that environment, then it's not going to work?"
Can patient-centered design still be a focus with infectious disease control on the minds of so many?
How did Jenny end up in healthcare design?

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Jenny Hastings, Principal at Boulder Associates Architects, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

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39: Alanna M. Carter, LEED AP Principal, Practice Group Lead at HGA Dec 01, 2020

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Alanna M. Carter, LEED AP Principal, Practice Group Lead at HGA is Cheryl's guest today on the podcast. Cheryl asks Alanna the question, "How have you and your team responded to the pandemic and what's happening now within your firm?" Alanna took a breath and shared, "It's interesting as leaders. I don't think any of us could have realized how we were going to have to navigate through that [pandemic + social unrest in Minneapolis] and then our healthcare clients who were in the middle of being these safety nets for people in the midst of it. How do they understand how to manage through that?" Lean in and listen to this heartfelt and meaningful conversation about what healthcare design innovation looks like today from the inside of one of the largest architecture and engineering firms in Minnesota.

Learn more about Alanna M. Carter, LEED AP Principal, Practice Group Lead at HGA by visiting: https://hga.com/.

In Cheryl's conversation with Alanna M. Carter, they discuss:

How have Alanna and HGA responded to the pandemic and what was it like during those first few months of the crisis?
How did HGA respond to the social unrest that happened in Minnesota and what it meant to HGA's healthcare clients.
What have been some of the benefits of working at home during the pandemic?
What was it like among HGA's senior living and healthcare products when the pandemic hit and how has that shifted?
How is patient flow now changing in the hospital setting, and what are some of the emerging patient needs that HGA is now looking at and integrating in healthcare spaces?
Are vendors and manufacturers of healthcare products changing? What is Alanna seeing? How is AI involved in this?
Why are hospitals in Minneapolis and around the country seeing less violence in the hospital setting, as a result of family members and friends not allowed to visit their loved ones?
What is the impact of COVID on healthcare facilities and what is HGA's Flexible, Resilient Design?
What's happening with the healthcare cleaning staff? Are they being re-trained for the new way of cleaning?
Alanna and HGA are seeing a transition in the assisted living space that answer the question, "What are the top things that need to happen to keep people safe in skilled nursing?"
What is the number one thing that research is showing that keeps people safe in senior living right now?
What were the pop-up hospitals that HGA designed after the onset of the pandemic?
How did Alanna end up in senior living and healthcare design?

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

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38, Part 1, Joshua Theodore, Vice President and Global Health Practice Leader, Leo A. Daly Nov 05, 2020

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In Part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl Janis speaks with Joshua Theodore, Vice President and Global Health Practice Leader at Leo A. Daly. During the first months of the pandemic, what other facilities, aside from hospitals, were used as surge spaces? Joshua begins, "The US Army of Corps Engineers designated 17 alternate care facilities for surge capacity, and one of those was the Javits Center in New York City. If and when they are demolished, we are going to have a lot of extra product; $700 million dollars worth, and some of that is going to end up in the bin and that is a massive amount of waste." Get an insider's perspective into what else was going on behind the scenes during the first several months of the pandemic, and what new innovations are coming out of Leo A Daly's firm on part 1 of today's episode.

Learn more about Joshua Theodore and Leo A. Daly by visiting https://leoadaly.com/.

In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Joshua Theodore they discuss:

How did Joshua Theodore and Leo A. Daly respond to the pandemic and what was it like emotionally during those first few months of the crisis, from inside the firm?
What is Leo A. Daly's task force and at what point after the pandemic hit the United States was the task force created?
What did Leo A. Daly's morale surveys reveal and what was learned?
What is the Hotel2Hospital concept when did it start, and what was the initial response?
When the US Army of Corps Engineers designated 17 alternate care facilities for surge capacity, and one of those was the Javits Center in New York City. Why has so much waste been left over from this, and what can the healthcare design community learn from this moving forward?

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Joshua Theodore, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

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38, Part 2, Joshua Theodore, Vice President and Global Health Practice Leader, Leo A. Daly Nov 05, 2020

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In part 2 of Cheryl's interview with Joshua Theodore, Vice President and Global Health Practice Leader at Leo A. Daly, Cheryl asks Joshua about Work Well---a new project, and new technology coming out of Leo A. Daly and their industry partners, to help fight COVID-19. Joshua shares, "Work Well started out as a 2 x 4 foot stick-built wood approach to scanning people as they come onboard. People pass through an entry door and the exit door, and there is a green and red light. If you get a green light, you can continue walking through and if you get a red light, you are going to stop. The light system is tied to a temperature scanning system." Learn more about the genesis of Work Well, its privacy implications and how the healthcare industry is getting involved. This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on part 2 of today's episode.

To learn more about Joshua Theodore and Leo A. Daly, visit: https://leoadaly.com/.

In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Joshua Theodore, you will learn:

What is Leo A. Daly's Work Well project, how did Turner Construction get involved, and what are the implications of this new technology for the healthcare industry?
What happens when someone with COVID-19, is thermally scanned at a facility and the entrance door locks?
How does someone's iPhone or other smartphone play a role in this?
Are there any privacy concerns about someone suddenly being stopped and not able to get through a door?
What latest project is coming out of Leo A. Daly and how shipping containers are involved.
The story of Joshua's high school mission trip down to the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico, and how working on a clinic there with a group of other people played a role in influencing him to choose a career in healthcare.
What advice does Joshua have for architecture and design students listening to you today, interested in specializing in healthcare, but are afraid to move in this direction?

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

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37, Part 1, Mary-Jean Eastman, FAIA, MRAIC, Co-Founder & Vice-Chair of Perkins Eastman Oct 09, 2020

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Mary-Jean Eastman, FAIA, MRAIC, Co-Founder & Vice-Chair of Perkins Eastman is Cheryl's guest today on the podcast. Today, women lead the majority of Perkins-Eastman offices and studios. However, it wasn't always that way. When Mary-Jean Eastman entered architecture school in 1966, fewer than 10 percent of her classmates were women. What was that time like for Mary-Jean and how have women in architecture evolved to the more prominent leadership role they enjoy today at the firm and beyond? Mary-Jean shares, "We began to recognize the challenges for women and it became obvious that women were dropping out of the profession because of all these challenges. However, at the same time, women were entering architecture school in larger numbers and that made a huge difference. Our firm was becoming more prominent, and we were able to attract the most talented students and among them, many wonderful women. That is when our population started to change significantly." Learn more about the history of Perkins-Eastman, how the firm responded to the pandemic in those first few months after COVID hit New York, and what changes are now being implemented in hospitals and healthcare facilities across the United States on Part 1 of today's episode.

Learn more about Mary-Jean Eastman and Perkins-Eastman by visiting: http://www.perkinseastman.com/.

In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Mary-Jean Eastman they discuss:

What it was like at Perkins-Eastman during the first few months of the crisis in New York which was hit hard with a surge of COVID-19 cases, early on.
What is like now for the firm to design hospitals, and how does COVID recovery play a role in this?
What has Perkins-Eastman learned so far from the pandemic and the equalization of care?
Today, women lead the majority of Perkins-Eastman offices and studios. However, when Mary-Jean Eastman entered architecture school in 1966, fewer than 10 percent of your classmates were women. What was that time like for Mary-Jean?
Hear about how a young Mary-Jean Eastman wanted to become an architect and how, despite her parents discouragement, because at the time women just didn't do that, she moved into the field anyway.
How did Mary-Jean meet Brad Perkins and what led to their creation of Perkins-Eastman in 1981?
The 1980's were a time when women were trying to assimilate into mainstream society and what this was like for Mary-Jean and other women architects at the time.
Mary-Jean has said that in her over 40-year career, her greatest opportunities with institutional buildings where the clients have often been women. Learn what these opportunities have been.
When Mary-Jean saw that women in architecture were dropping out of the profession, she also knew that more women were entering the architecture school than ever before.
When women comprised 45% of architecture school, it started to make a larger impact on the workforce. Perkins-Eastman at that time was becoming more established and was able to attract the best students coming out of school, who were often women.
Mary-Jean has been quoted as saying, "Providing women a seat at the table and ensuring diversity remains alive and well, and is something that I have been and remain passionate about." Listen to Mary-Jean unpack this.

In Part 2 of Cheryl's interview with Mary-Jean Eastman, FAIA, MRAIC, Co-Founder & Vice-Chair of Perkins Eastman, Cheryl asks Mary-Jean to describe her firm's work with Memorial Sloan Kettering. "Memorial Sloan Kettering is one of the oldest and largest cancer centers in the world," Mary-Jean begins. "When we started working with them, the mandate was to take an institution that was very much focused on research and make it a leader in patient centered care." Learn more about the details of this project, it's history with the firm, and what it means to design for cancer patients on Part 2 of Cheryl's interview today with Mary-Jean Eastman, available now.

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Mary-Jean Eastman, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

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37, Part 2, Mary-Jean Eastman, FAIA, MRAIC, Co-Founder & Vice-Chair of Perkins Eastman Oct 09, 2020

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In Part 2 of Cheryl's interview with Mary-Jean Eastman, Co-Founder & Vice-Chair of Perkins Eastman, Cheryl asks Mary-Jean to describe her firm's work with Memorial Sloan Kettering. "Memorial Sloan Kettering is one of the oldest and largest cancer centers in the world," Mary-Jean begins. "When we started working with them, the mandate was to take an institution that was very much focused on research and make it a leader in patient centered care." Learn more about the details of this project, it's history with the firm, and what it means to design for cancer patients, on Part 2 of Cheryl's interview today with Mary-Jean Eastman.

Learn more about Mary-Jean Eastman and Perkins-Eastman by visiting: http://www.perkinseastman.com/.

In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Mary-Jean Eastman, they discuss:

Why are complex healthcare projects important and interesting to Mary-Jean and what stories have come out of the past several decades from working on complex healthcare projects?
Why has Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center been such an important client to the firm and what is its history with the firm?
What is it like to design such a large facility for cancer patients and how is designing for this demographic different than designing for other types of patients?
Why did Perkins Eastman decide that it was going to be an employee-owned firm and what led to that decision?
A young 10-year old Mary-Jean knew that she wanted to be an architect but she kept this secret to herself and instead told the grownups that she wanted to be a teacher? What does this say about Mary-Jean's generation of women and how has this changed?
When did Mary-Jean discover that she loved to solve complex problems?
What is the future of healthcare design and how will technology play a role in this?
What advice does Mary-Jean have for young women in architectural school who are interested in specializing in healthcare, but are afraid of it?

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

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36, Part 1, Lesa Lorusso, Healthcare Director of Research & Innovation at Gresham Smith Sep 09, 2020

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On Part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl speaks with Lesa Lorusso, PhD, MBA, Allied AIA, ASID, RID, NCIDQ, and Healthcare Director of Research and Innovation at Gresham Smith, on the firm's new patent-pending empathic design technology. "The Empathic Design Tool" measures emotional responses of people reacting to the built environment. Lesa shares, "We have an innovation incubator within Gresham Smith we call "Studio X." Mike Sewell, our Active Transportation Service Line Leader created The Empathic Design tool which recently won Architect Magazine's 14th annual R&D award." Learn more about how the "Empathic Design Tool" can measure emotional responses of people reacting in the built environment and how this is a potential game-changer in the world of empathic healthcare design research.

For more information on Lesa Lorusso and Gresham Smith, visit https://www.greshamsmith.com/.

In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation today with Lesa Lorusso, they discuss:

How Gresham Smith responded to the pandemic and what it was like during those first few months of the crisis?
A patent-pending new research innovation tool, the "Empathic Design Tool," coming out of Gresham Smith that measures the emotional responses of people reacting to the built environment.
What new research is being used to comply with distance requirements?
How will Gresham Smith address social distancing in common spaces like waiting areas and will outdoor green spaces play a bigger role in social distances on hospital campuses, for example?
How are touchdown-spaces being affected within the healthcare space and how can touch can be reduced in general?
How can hospitals begin to rebuild trust with patients who are now staying away from hospitals and how can the design of the hospital assist with this?
The history of Gresham Smith's dedication to research and how Lesa got connected to the firm and was hired on as its Healthcare Director of Research.

In Part 2 of Cheryl's interview with Lesa Lorruso, Healthcare Director of Research and Innovation at Gresham Smith, they discuss Lesa's research project "Investigating the Impact of Multisensory Environments on Behavior for Veterans with Dementia." Lesa shares, "That research was a labor of the heart. I was fortunate at the University of Florida to be a part of an AIA sponsored research consortium called, 'Vital By Design,' with a focus on elder research." Learn more about the synchronicities that led to Lesa's work on the project and what fascinating research came out of it. Part 2 of the episode is available now.

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Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

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Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Lesa Lorusso, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

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36, Part 2, Lesa Lorusso, Healthcare Director of Research & Innovation at Gresham Smith Sep 09, 2020

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In the second half of Cheryl's conversation today with Lesa Lorusso, PhD, MBA, Allied AIA, ASID, RID, NCIDQ, and Healthcare Director of Research & Innovation at Gresham Smith, they discuss Lesa's research project, "Investigating the Impact of Multisensory Environments on Behavior for Veterans with Dementia." Lesa shares, "That research project was a labor of the heart. I was fortunate at the University of Florida to be a part of an AIA sponsored research consortium called, 'Vital By Design,' with a focus on elder research." Learn more about the synchronicities that led to Lesa's work on the project and what fascinating research came out of it in part 2 of today's episode.

For more information on Lesa Lorusso and Gresham Smith and Partners, visit: https://www.greshamsmith.com/.

In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Lesa Lorusso, they discuss:

What was Lesa's dissertation and her clinical trial with the VA, working with Veterans with Dementia using multi-sensory environments like, and why was this an area of interest?
What are the current statistics on dementia and Alzheimer's Disease in older adults in the United States and why this is a critical topic right now?
What's wrong with current medications for dementia? How can we change this through the design of the built environment?
What the research says about the impact of multi-sensory environments on improving health for people living with dementia.
What are Lesa's favorite projects and why?
What was it like for Lesa to grow up internationally, and as part of an extended military family with her dad's work as a rescue helicopter and C-130 pilot and her mother's work as an Air Force nurse influence?
What will hospitals look like in the year 2040?

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

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35, Part 1, Jennifer Aliber, Principal at Shepley Bulfinch Aug 14, 2020

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Jennifer Aliber, Principal at Shepley Bulfinch, a national architecture firm known to challenge convention, pioneer visionary design & collaborate with clients is our guest today on the podcast. In part one of today's episode, Jennifer shares her thoughts on how hospitals and healthcare systems can be better prepared for future pandemic outbreaks in the United States. Jennifer shares, "I'm pretty sure architects are going to be spending a lot of time over the next two years trying to think about how to protect both patients and staff from pandemics." In this episode you will get insight into the brain of one of the oldest architecture firms continuing existence in North America, and learn what innovations are on the horizon for hospitals and healthcare systems. Learn more about Jennifer Aliber and Shepley Bulfinch by visiting https://shepleybulfinch.com/.

In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Jennifer Aliber, they discuss:

What Jennifer and Shepley Bulfinch were up to in the five years prior to the pandemic and what changed overnight when COVID-19 hit the United States.
How can hospitals and healthcare systems be better prepared for future pandemic outbreaks in the United States?
How do we design hospitals in the future, and existing hospitals so we have facilities that allow various types of patients (including those with COVID-19) to get the care they need)?
What was Jennifer surprised about in the aftermath of the pandemic and how hospitals have responded?
Are hospital clients and partners now more open to making changes than they were prior to pandemic.
To what extent do healthcare architects have a moral obligation to educate their clients on the best safety and infectious disease prevention protocols, even if that means it might threaten their relationship with their client in some way.
Why Jennifer regrets not bringing the infectious disease control issue to the forefront to her colleagues, prior to the pandemic.
What does designing for an infectious world now look like from Jennifer's seat?
Why are virtual office visits on the rise?
What inspired and nurtured Jennifer over the years to remain at Shepley Bulfinch?
How have hospitals and healthcare facilities evolved over the years Jennifer has been at her firm?
Learn about the history of Shepley Bulfinch and how it transitioned from all white men to to a firm that is woman led and women owned.
How does Shepley Bulfinch challenge convention?
What was unique about the firm's Dartmouth-Hitchcock health care system and what big design innovation did they apply to the project?

This program is brought to you by Porcelanosa who extend their heartfelt appreciation for your support of this podcast. Stay safe and be well. To learn more about Porcelanosa, visit http://porcelanosa.com.

Thank you to our industry partner, The Center for Health Design. To learn more about CHD's new program MakingRoom, Connecting hotels and hospitals with urgent needs for space, please visit, https://www.healthdesign.org/makingroom.

Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners:

The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers
The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design

Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer® by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.

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