This is a repeat of an episode first aired in 2018, where Anna Ploszajski talks to artist Shelley James about glass - what it is, what it means, and how we use it.
Shelley works with scientists and other experts to understand the underlying principles of their fields and the wider historical and philosophical context of their work. See and read more about Shelley's beautiful work about light and glass on her website, and keep up to date on Twitter.
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