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    Grounded with Dinée Dorame

    Grounded with Dinée Dorame is a weekly podcast exploring the intersection between running, land, culture, and community through long-form conversations with athletes of all backgrounds and levels. I want to know– what grounds you?

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    Latest Episodes:
    Common Ground - Episode 1 Mar 02, 2022
    Show notes

    Welcome to the first episode of Common Ground, a new monthly cross-cast I'm co-hosting with Mario Fraioli. We met a little over a year ago through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program and have become close friends since he started serving as my podcast mentor. We're calling this new project Common Ground because we are two people who come from very different backgrounds and upbringings yet share a mutual love of running, podcasting, music, and more. We will feature conversations about what's currently exciting us in the sport, issues in the community and industry, and we may even take some listener questions. Common Ground will be released monthly in both the morning shakeout and Grounded Podcast feeds so there's no need to subscribe to a separate show. Please let us know what you think by sending us a message via social media—@theAMshakeout or @groundedpod on both Instagram and Twitter—or use the contact form on my website here. Enjoy!

    Follow the Morning Shakeout Podcast & Mario Fraioli:

    • Instagram: @theamshakeout
    • Twitter: @theamshakeout
    • Mario Fraioli: Website| Strava

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    Photo of Dinée Dorame by Aisha McAdams.


    Episode 43 - Christian Gering (Katishtya'meh & Pi'pil), Multimedia Artist & Trail Runner Feb 18, 2022
    Show notes

    Christian Gering is a multimedia artist and trail runner hailing from Katishyta (San Felipe Pueblo) and the Pi'pil people of El Salvador. He recently designed several prints and graphics for Janji's Fall/Winter 2021 running apparel line– American Southwest. His creative inspiration is heavily linked to his passion for movement. Christian is known for translating his experiences of running up peaks, down arroyos, and across a variety of landscapes into feelings, emotions, and ideas in the form of visual art. Gering has had several top finishes at international races including wins at the 2015 Bandera 50K, 2018 Jemez Mountain 50-Miler, and the 2019 Javelina 100K. He also holds the course record at the latter two races. After a decade of competing professionally, he tells us about his plans to pursue his passions creatively as he dives into the many meanings, purposes, and intentions behind why we move.

    In this episode:

    • Christian Gering Digital Art
    • Janji Fall/Winter 2021 Collection – American Southwest (Prints and Graphics designed by Christian Gering)
    • Patricia Michaels (Taos Pueblo) on Project Runway
    • Wings of America
    • Dustin Martin – Episode 13 on Grounded Pod
    • Them on Amazon Prime
    • Dijon (Musician)

    Follow Christian Gering:

    • Instagram: @christian.gering
    • Website: https://www.christian-gering.com/

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 42 - Craig Curley (Diné), Marathoner & 2012 Olympic Trials Qualifier Feb 11, 2022
    Show notes

    Craig Curley (Diné) is a marathoner and 2012 U.S. Olympic Trials Qualifier. Craig's professional running journey has been a winding path. In the early 2000s, he was considered a top high school runner in Arizona. Forgoing Division I collegiate opportunities, he went on to compete for Pima Community College for two years and broke the 5,000m record which was previously held by Pima Community College alum Abdi Abdirahman. Shortly after the 2012 trials, Craig won the Columbus Marathon and signed a contract with Mizuno. In this conversation, we talk about the different phases of his running journey, the coaches he's worked with, and how his home life and cultural upbringing intersect with his running career. I am lucky to have connected with Craig through our mutual friend, Mario Fraioli. Mario is currently coaching Craig as he tackles this new season of running and life.

    In this episode:

    • Wings of America
    • Billy Elliot (Movie)
    • Craig Curley on the Morning Shakeout Podcast
    • "With Pro Runners Eager to Race, a Marathon Comes to Arizona," by Sarah Lorge Butler, com, September 24, 2020.
    • Taylor 50k Race
    • The Presets (Band)
    • Running with the Buffaloes: A Season Inside with Mark Wetmore, Adam Goucher, and the University of Colorado Men's Cross-Country Team (Book by Chris Lear)]
    • There, There (Book by Tommy Orange)

    Follow Craig Curley:

    • Instagram: @craigcurley_

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 41 - Life Updates & New Year Goals Feb 02, 2022
    Show notes

    Solo episode time! Join Dinée for a recap of the first year of Grounded Pod, 2022 goals, and exciting updates!

    Top 5 Episodes of 2021:

    • Kara Goucher – Ep. 37
    • Meb Keflezighi – Ep. 2
    • Billy Mills – Ep. 23
    • Jordan Marie Daniel – Ep. 1
    • Rosalie Fish – Ep. 40

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 40 - Rosalie Fish (Cowlitz & Muckleshoot), Activist & Student-Athlete at the University of Washington Nov 18, 2021
    Show notes

    "Running for survival is not political. [Saying] 'Stop killing Native women' is not political. Representing myself as an Indigenous person is not political."

    Rosalie Fish (Cowlitz & Muckleshoot) is an activist and student-athlete running Division I Track/Cross-Country at the University of Washington. After a successful run at the junior college level running for Iowa Central CC, she joined the 2021-22 UW Track and Cross-Country recruiting class. She was the first member of her tribe to sign a National Letter of Intent for college athletics. Rosalie is well-known for her advocacy work in bringing awareness to the Missing & Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, & Two-Spirit+ epidemic. She gained global attention in 2019 when she followed in the footsteps of Jordan Marie Brings Three White Horses Daniel by painting a red handprint over her face during competition the WA state track meet and running honor of her missing relatives. In this conversation, we talk about what her experiences as a Native student-athlete, and particularly a runner, have been like since high school. We also talk about her training, life as an athlete at the Division I level, and goals for the future.

    In This Episode:

    • "'When I run about it, people will notice': Rosalie Fish runs for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women," by Dave Trimmer, SeattleTimes.com, June 7, 2019.
    • "Rosalie Fish Is Taking Her Activism for MMIW to the University of Washington," by Taylor Dutch, RunnersWorld.com, April 8, 2021.
    • We Need to Talk on CBS: Rosalie Fish is a Beacon of Hope
    • Wings of America
    • Grounded Pod Episode 1 – Jordan Marie Daniel
    • "Jordan Marie Daniel ran and prayed for 26 #MMIW names at 26.2 mile Boston Marathon," by Vincent Schilling, com, April 23, 2019.
    • Urban Indian Health Institute – Missing & Murdered Indigenous Women & Girls 2018 Report
    • The Way of the Househusband on Netflix

    Follow Rosalie Fish:

    • Instagram: @rosaliefishx

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 39 - Emma Zimmerman, Writer, Journalist, & Host of the Social Sport Podcast Nov 11, 2021
    Show notes

    "As I grow as a writer and a journalist, I am constantly just trying to listen and learn from new perspectives. Never put something off as a topic that you 'know about' or that you've done work on…always be open to learning more and listening more."

    Emma Zimmerman is a Brooklyn-based writer, journalist, and podcast host. Her work primarily explores topics of women in endurance sports, sport and social change, and environmental justice. Emma's Social Sport podcast, which is part of the CITIUS MAG Podcast Network, "features conversations with endurance athletes of all types committed to fostering social change." Her writing has appeared in Taproot Magazine, Runner's World, Trail Runner, and more. Emma ran Cross Country and Track & Field at Grinnell College, where she also earned her BA in Political Science and Environmental Studies. She is currently pursuing her MFA in Creative Nonfiction Writing at New York University. In this conversation, Emma offers listeners a writing prompt to get your creativity flowing in the outdoors and we hear about how she's used writing as a tool for social change.

    In This Episode:

    • Social Sport, a Citius Mag Podcast
    • Social Sport Ep. 53 – Dinée Dorame on Living Her Values as a Navajo Woman in Sports Media
    • "How Dinée Dorame Is Building A Deeper Understanding Of Running Culture,' by Emma Zimmerman, Trail Runner Magazine, July 14, 2021
    • The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson
    • Ted Lasso on Apple TV+
    • The Mamas & the Papas
    • Paul Simon

    Follow Emma Zimmerman & Social Sport Podcast:

    • Instagram (Emma): @emma_zimmerman
    • Twitter (Emma): @emmamzimm
    • Instagram (Social Sport): @socialsportpod
    • http://www.emmamzimmerman.com/

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 38 - Dr. Amanda Cheromiah (Laguna Pueblo), Indigenous Higher Education Scholar, Photographer, & Runner Nov 04, 2021
    Show notes

    "All our Indigenous communities have runners that were messengers and caretakers…runners were the ones that helped communicate important messages about when to uprise..we are Indigenous runners, we are lifelines to our people and communities."

    Dr. Amanda Cheromiah (Laguna Pueblo) is an educator, storyteller, photographer, and avid runner. She recently received her PhD in Higher Education from the University of Arizona and is currently the Director of the Native SOAR (Student Outreach, Access & Resilience) Program on campus. Her dissertation, "The Indigenous Revolt in Education: Indigenous Feat – A Scholar's Pace," uses Indigenous methods of storytelling to highlight the experiences of 11 Indigenous runners, including herself. Her work focuses on the intersection of the higher education, running, land, spirituality, Indigenous cultures, and health–while also showing Native students that they are not alone in their educational journey and that we all ultimately "move at our own pace." In her free time, Dr. Cheromiah is a photographer and tells us about how being partially blind empowers her art and impacts her running. Join us in conversation as we discuss everything from college access to mental health to our favorite running gear!

    In This Episode:

    • "The Indigenous Revolt in Education: Indigenous Feat - A Scholar's Pace," Dissertation by Dr. Amanda Cheromiah
    • Indigenous Feat – A Scholar's Pace on YouTube
    • Kyle Sumatzkuku & Duane Humeyestewa - Grounded Pod Episode 34
    • Lewis Tewanima
    • Carlisle Indian School – A Brief History
    • Pueblo Revolt of 1680
    • Lydia Jennings - Grounded Pod Episode 12
    • Brooks Ariel '20 Women's Running Shoe
    • The Canary Effect on YouTube
    • "Native UArizona students claim President Robbins made insensitive comments," KGUN9 Local News - Tucson, November 4, 2019.
    • Reservation Dogs on FX on Hulu
    • Selena: The Series on Netflix
    • "Drinkin' Problems" song by Midland
    • "Is It Any Wonder?" song by Durand Jones & The Indications

    Dr. Amanda Cheromiah:

    • Instagram: @drcheromiah
    • Twitter: @drcheromiah
    • TikTok: @drcheromiah

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 37 - Kara Goucher, 2x Olympian, NBC Olympics Distance Analyst, & Athlete Advisor at Oiselle Oct 27, 2021
    Show notes

    "I think because of the way I started running, with my Grandpa, it wasn't about performance, it was about time with him…running was this whole thing built around friendships...I think I've always been able to go back to that place, that's what gotten me through some of those rough points."

    Kara Goucher is a two-time Olympian and is known as one of the most decorated athletes in American distance running history. She currently works as an Athlete Advisor at Oiselle and is part of Team Altra. Kara was a three-time NCAA Champion and a seven-time All-American during her time as a University of Colorado Buff. Prior to representing the United States at the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games in the 5k/10k and the 2012 London Games in the marathon, she was a 10,000m Silver Medalist at the 2007 World Championships. Outside of competition, Kara is known for her strong voice and advocacy. She was an early whistleblower on doping violations within the Oregon Project (her former team/training program) which led to the coach's ban from the sport and public conversations around clean sport within the running community. Kara is now one of the hosts and creators of the Clean Sport Collective Podcast. In this conversation, I learn more about Kara's relationship to place, specifically Boulder, CO, and her transition from professional running to race commentating. We also talk about her recent return to running and re-discovering the joy and connectivity of the sport through her son's eyes.

    In This Episode:

    • Oiselle
    • BOLDERBoulder10k – Boulder, CO
    • Clean Sport Collective Podcast, hosted by Kara Goucher, Shanna Burnette, & Chris McClung

    Follow Kara Goucher:

    • Instagram: @karagoucher
    • Twitter: @karagoucher
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KaraGoucher

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 36 - Graciela Esquivel, Runner, Judicial Clerk, and my Lifelong Best Friend Oct 21, 2021
    Show notes

    "Movement and sport, in whichever way you want to do it, is this access point to so many other things…it's this access point to meeting new people, it's this access point to education. Everybody in my family always knew that it was more than just an individual [thing]."

    Graciela Esquivel is a New Mexico based runner, a Judicial Clerk for the NM Court of Appeals, and she happens to be my lifelong best friend! Graciela and I grew up together playing youth sports and went on to be basketball teammates throughout middle and high school. She graduated from Boston College in 2015 with a B.A. in Sociology, then went on to earn her J.D. from the University of New Mexico in 2020. She is a three-time half marathoner and we've even trained for one of those together! In this conversation, listen to us reflect on the power of youth sports in creating lifelong relationships, navigating our own insecurities as runners, and how her family influenced her love of movement.

    In This Episode:

    • Grounded Pod Episode 14 – Beth Wright
    • Crash Bandicoot Video Game (our favorite video game)
    • The Simpsons Road Rage (our other favorite video game)
    • Duke City Marathon/Half Marathon/10k/5k, Albuquerque, NM
    • The Experiment, the Atlantic Podcast
    • Ted Lasso on Apple TV+
    • The Morning Show on Apple TV+

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


    Episode 35 - Life Updates + My Running Story Oct 13, 2021
    Show notes

    Solo episode time! Join Grounded Pod creator/host, Dinée Dorame, for some stories around running, life, body and health, social media, and Navajo culture and traditions.

    In This Episode:

    • SHEFIT Sports Bras

    Follow Grounded Pod:

    • Instagram: @groundedpod
    • Twitter: @groundedpod
    • Facebook: facebook.com/groundedpodwithdinee

    Subscribe, Listen, & Review on: Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Soundcloud | Stitcher

    Music by Jacob Shije (Santa Clara Pueblo, NM).

    This podcast was made possible through the Tracksmith Fellowship Program.


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