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Episode 64 - Getting to Know Down to Earth Astrology with Leah Vanderveldt Sep 11, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett, welcome Leah Vanderveldt, author, astrologer, cosmic stylist, and tarot creator.

In this episode, they discuss:

The gifts and perils of widely available astrological information
Knowing just enough to be "dangerous"
Sometimes we need a break from growth
A quick dive into the basics of aspects in astrology
There is no such thing as "good" or "bad" astrology
Neptune is "a real glorious vibe"
We (as a society) hate lack of clarity/decisiveness
Eclipse energy affects everyone differently
Can we slow down enough to notice what we're being shown?
Some advice for the Virgo new moon
A little preview of the Venus retrograde in October
Bangs as a transformative container
Be patient with yourself during this upcoming year; a lot of change could be on its way
Allowing yourself to be in a liminal space
Natasha's new class, You Are Here
Using astrology to locate yourself
It's easy to cheer for the winning team
"Mattering" is a real word, as it turns out
And more!

Plus...

Natasha has a new self-paced course for help in liminal spaces. You Are Here: Finding Your Ground When You Don't Know What's Next. Learn more or sign up here!
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Leah's info:

Website: leahvanderveldt.com
Substack: Cosmic Style
Instagram: @leah.vanderveldt
Podcast: Cosmic Style

Episode 63 - Getting to Know Psychological Astrology with Lauren Cummings Jul 25, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett, welcome Lauren Cummings, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychological astrologer, and founder of The Lunar Child Institute.

In this episode, they discuss:

Natasha's strong distaste for a countdown
Is there more pressure while performing a play, or while improvising?
Brett experiencing a different kind of nudge toward change in his life.
How Lauren's work helped astrology click for Natasha
Approaching astrology as symbolic language for experiencing life
Lauren's relationship to astrology really only started in grad school
How Lauren is able to use astrology in her therapy practice
The importance of intuition in astrology
How traditional evidence grows for things once considered "woo woo"
What a "Chart Ruler" is in your birth chart
The astrological balance in the Levinger household
Using astrology to deal with challenging people in your life
The strange 10-year gap of birth certificates with birth times
The distinction between belief and philosophy
Lauren's recommendations for newbies, and for more advanced learners
Working with challenging placements by bringing in more of its opposite sign
Signs right next to each other have few similarities
Please, DO NOT set your clocks to our episode publishing schedule!
And more!

Plus...

Only one spot left for Natasha's latest class! Self-Trust: Coming Back to Your Inner Signal is a four-week journey to build lasting self-trust through intuition, energetic awareness, and a deeper relationship with the living world. Learn more or sign up here!
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Lauren's info:

Episode 62 - Getting to Know Spirit Guides with AJA Daashuur Jul 13, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett, welcome AJA Daashuur, trance medium, spiritual teacher, certified life coach and creator of the Guided by Spirit oracle deck.

In this episode, they discuss:

Learning to trust your own information in situations where you are not an expert
Reaching for certainty in the wrong places
Natasha's taking a great astrology class
How self-celebration is an act of communal support
Working up the capacity to experience the vulnerability to be yourself
"Healed people heal people"
One of AJA's life purposes is to connect people to their spirit team
How AJA and Natasha approach other peoples' guides when working with clients
The danger of certainty being offered from psychic and woo practitioners
The very human desire to find someone with "the answers"
Psychics and mediums are in a better place today to help offer/assist with real therapeutic work than they have been historically
Different guides may be present for different seasons in your life
The oracle deck took about five years of collaboration
Time as an offering to the forces helping us when we do divination work
What spirit guides want the most from us is tangible change
A description of the very intensive process of making the images of these guides come to life
A new relationship to time is needed for all of us
The power of devotion to your self
Regarding generational trauma: Be a leaf but don't blame the stone for being a stone
AJA's recommendation for how to approach the deck
Devotion to self creates devotion to those around you
And more!

Plus...

Registration for Natasha's latest class is open! Self-Trust: Coming Back to Your Inner Signal is a four-week journey to build lasting self-trust through intuition, energetic awareness, and a deeper relationship with the living world. Learn more or sign up here!
Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

AJA's info:

Guided by Spirit oracle deck
Website: https://www.thespiritguidecoach.com/
Instagram: @ajadaashuur

Episode 61 - Getting to Know Archetypal Tarot with Mariana Louis Mar 18, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett welcome Mariana Louis, archetypal taroist, psycho-spiritual educator, sacred feminist and author of Tarot and the Psychology of the Soul.

In this episode, they discuss:

Healing as a process of clearing out what is in the way of your already whole self
How resistance to difficult experiences keeps you from growing from them
Shame wants to keep things in the unconscious
What is depth psychology and how does it work with the unconscious?
Some things may be beyond our ability to every consciously examine
Archetypes and how they function in our life
How tarot is a communication between your conscious, unconscious, and the collective
Mariana wants to move the way people approach the tarot from divination to individuation
How seeking "clarity" from the tarot can sometimes just be an attempt at ego validation
If your goal when consulting the cards is connection, it will help keep you in the present
Learning to connect to your own knowledge can be very daunting, but very rewarding
Finding "the better question" instead of "the best answer" when reading the tarot
The importance of finding neutrality as much as you can before pulling cards
Why Mariana doesn't like it when a tarot deck renames cards to "less scary" things
And more!

Plus...

Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Mariana Louis's info:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/persephonessister
Book: Tarot and the Psychology of the Soul
Website: persephonessister.com

Episode 60 - Getting to Know Shadow Work with Jor-El Caraballo Feb 20, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are delighted to talk with Jor-El Caraballo, licensed therapist, author, and creator of the new deck, Shadow Work for Self-Reflection.

In this episode, they discuss:

Should Brett & Natasha start doing a relationship segment?
Someone telling you their IQ is a red flag for Brett
Jor-El's history and work as a licensed therapist
Beginning to encounter shadow with clients before having the vocabulary
Carl Jung got more esoteric and metaphysical as he aged and diverged from mainstream psychology
An admiration for Jung's commitment to staying open and expanding throughout his life
Blending any and every approach to healing that works for you
Shadow work is the process of exploring and being curious about the wizard behind the curtain in your own psyche
The importance of non-judgemental curiosity and compassion when approaching shadow work
The benefits that come from shadow work
How shadow work for yourself benefits the community at large
It can be really scary to meet yourself
The ways in which shadow can be wielded against others when we don't try to learn about it
Shadow work can feel lonely, but there is always someone else out there who deals with the same kind of shadow
The things we are afraid of often hold parts of our power
Struggling with being an atypical boy growing up
Golden Shadow: positive traits that you learn to shun
The power of emotional sensitivity
How embracing your shadow can enable others to embark on their own journey
The ways that shadow can disguise itself from you as "just the way you are"
The practice of naming and speaking to your inner critic to give yourself emotional distance
Shadow work is never the pandora's box we fear it might be
Brett wishes he could trick people into doing shadow work, but Jor-El advises against it
Jor-El's recommendation for how to work with his deck: SLOW DOWN!
Hopper from Stranger Things could use some serious shadow work
Card pull for the week ahead
And more!

Plus...

Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Jor-EL Carballo's info:

Substack (Coffee & Contemplation): https://jorelcaraballo.substack.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jorelcaraballo/
Deck: Shadow Work for Self-Reflection
Book: Mindful Meditations for Black Men
Website: jorelcaraballo.com

Episode 59 - Getting to Know Microdosing with Kayse Gehret Feb 11, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are excited to talk with Microdosing Facilitator Kayse Gehret.

In this episode, they discuss:

How Mark Slaughter features in the Sliding Doors version of Natasha's life
The unbelievable true story of Natasha and the belching massage therapist
Kayse is the least likely person to work with magic mushrooms
She avoided all kinds of mind-altering substances due to gran mal seizure disorder
Microdosing healed Kayse's seizures, but also brought a host of other benefits
She started a microdosing community during Covid
That community effort has grown to include a podcast, a website, and training others
to do the work of guiding people through microdosing
The different medicines that can be used for microdosing
Microdosing is a sub-threshold dose, which means you don't feel altered.
It allows you to get the benefits of these medicines in a bite-sized way that is easier to incorporate into your day-to-day life
Microdosing is a different experience for everyone
How to make sure you're getting the dose you expect
How Kayse guides people remotely
The gift of everyone going online during the pandemic was being able to spread communities around the globe
Some popular misconceptions about these medicines
These medicines should not be called "drugs"
Are there specific medicines for specific conditions?
The power of restful sleep for a regulated central nervous system
How modern society contributes to nervous system overload
The surprising overlap of microdosing guides with corporate HR
The spiritual side of microdosing for Kayse
How plant medicine quiets the "me" part of our brains
Common misconceptions about microdosing
What if microdosing doesn't seem to work?
Community is an important part of the microdosing work
And more!

Plus...

Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Kayse Gehret's info:

Episode 58 - Getting to Know the I Ching with Jonathan Koe Jan 22, 2026

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett are excited to welcome back queer mystic, astrologer, energy healer, Jonathan Koe, to talk about The I Ching.

In this episode, they discuss:

We're back! Is there anybody still here?
Natasha has loved the I Ching since she was a teenager
Jonathan started their practice a few years ago after a very powerful reading
The gates in Human Design are inspired by the I Ching
A variety of ways to approach the I Ching
Because the I Ching is essentially bibliomancy, it makes itself very accessible
Allowing your own knowing to come into your work with the I Ching
When looking for "signs" is a desire to connect with the universe, and when it's a
subordination of self
Investigating your biases before you formulate your question for the I Ching
The intelligence of the built-in slowness of querying the I Ching
The best emotional place to begin casting from
How the I Ching can connect you to your own power
Approaching your time with the I Ching like being with a master or a teacher
Connection to the divine through the I Ching
A brief overview of the structure of the I Ching
The I Ching is known as The Book of Change
Natasha and Jonathan both find the I Ching very soothing, but also bossy
The effect of the translator on English version of the I Ching
Ending with a card reading for the week ahead
And more!

Plus...

Sign up for Natasha's substack, Coming Home! Paid subscribers get lots of extra content, including monthly live calls!
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Jonathan Koe's info:

Healing the Spirit podcast
Jonathan's substack for Healing the Spirit
Jonathan's website: https://www.jonathankoe.com

Episode 57 - Getting to Know a New Human Design Paradigm with Katie Rose Jun 13, 2025

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett eagerly welcome intuitive coach Katie Rose to the show to talk about what Human Design has to say about an upcoming paradigm shift called The Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix.

In this episode, they discuss:

Thoughts on how cultural evolution is supplanting genetic evolution in humans for emotional and physical growth
Everyone is needed in the fight
This is the time for allies to be showing up, everywhere
Pulling oracle cards for the energy of the next two weeks
Recalling Katie's last interview
The new paradigm arriving in 2027, according to Human Design
The previous paradigm allowed for setting up infrastructure and rigidity
The new paradigm (The Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix) allows for gray area, complexity
The new paradigm grounds in authenticity and community
Not neglecting yourself in the caring of each other
How energy healing helps to tell all the parts of yourself when you've changed and grown
The importance of dealing with both emotional and intellectual understanding in your healing
Brett forgets that podcasts are an auditory medium
The advantages of energy work when compared to traditional therapy
The hope that traditional therapy will also get a software update
Building compassion for yourself allows you to build it for others
It's normal to not heal in a "straight line"
It is detrimental when we are dogmatic about the supremacy of any single system/philosophy/idea
How the human brain views familiarity as safety, even when it is not actually safe
But the brain can be re-educated
What happened for Katie when a long-healed pattern cropped up again unexpectedly
Approaching our own "negative" reactions with curiosity instead of judgement
How curiosity can be enough while you are still learning to apply self-compassion
Being triggered doesn't mean you're not growing
How healing can be like turning on the light in a chaotic room
And more!

Plus...

Natasha is starting a small-group psychic skills mentorship. Learn more at natashalevinger.com
Learn more about about Pattern Shifting, Natasha's new two-session mini-mentorship
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Individual readings are available. Learn more or book one here
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Katie Rose's info:

Katie's workshop on June 20: Summer SOULstice. Learn more or register here.
Katie's website: https://www.katierosecoaching.com
Katie's Instagram: @helloimkatierose
The Trauma to Transformation Podcast

Getting to Know Woo is a bi-weekly podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful.

Episode 56 - Getting to Know Sacred Plant Magic with Amy Blackthorn May 21, 2025

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk with Amy Blackthorn, author of Sacred Plant Magic.

In this episode:

Nataha loooooved Gracie Allen
Our oldest graduated high school!
Healing = timeline collapsing
Breck is a terrible name for a shampoo
Brett has some healing around conflict
Reprogramming trauma through scents
How to customize your own therapeutic scents
Working with the spirit of plants, even if you don't have the plants
Learning to communicate with plants
Scent has a totally separate pathway from speech in your brain from other senses.
And music has a separate pathway from speech
The importance of working with plants even if you can't afford a bunch of essential oils
A (not so) brief distraction by Amy's pitbull, Millie.
Connecting with plants from other epochs
Amy's efforts to bring some economic justice to her work
And more!

Plus...

There are openings for Natasha's small-group psychic mentorship. Apply or learn more here!
Listen to Natasha's current podcast, Crystal Ballers, with co-host Britten LaRue.
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

Getting to Know Woo is a podcast dedicated to dispelling the rhetoric that so-called "woo-woo" practices such as energy work, energy healing, inner child healing, chakra clearing, and more are impractical and ineffective, and instead are pragmatic, transformative, and powerful. Episodes are released as available during breaks from Natasha's main podcast, Crystal Ballers (https://www.crystalballerspod.com)

Episode 55 - Getting to Know Auras, Activism & Dragons Apr 21, 2025

Show notes

Host Natasha Levinger and her co-host/husband/producer, Brett talk about the messages coming from their guides about connecting to community and to the land you live on.

In this episode:

Getting involved in supporting causes you care about
Find a way to use your specific skills to support a cause
Brett's use of aura work to support his activism
Setting up two versions of your aura
Aura work is accessible but powerful
Dragons have become a regular part of Natasha's life
Yes, dragons.
The grounding energy of dragons
"Crazy times call for grounded dragons"
And more!

Plus...

Sign up for Grounding in the Chaos, an upcoming workshop from Crystal Ballers.
There are openings for Natasha's small-group psychic mentorship. Apply or learn more here!
Listen to Natasha's current podcast, Crystal Ballers, with co-host Britten LaRue.
Get Natasha's book Healing Your Inner Child in paperback or audiobook today.
Don't forget to rate/review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and tell your friends about us
Send questions, show topic suggestions, or to gettingtoknowwoo@gmail.com

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