Getting Through It

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Getting Through It: After the Fires #6 Jan 07, 2026

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What's in the air after a fire, and where those materials go as they settle, can raise questions about human and environmental health. In this episode, we are joined by Environmental Scientist and On-scene coordinator for EPA Region 9, Harry Allen. Harry shares what it means to be "safe" when understanding the impacts of smoke and ash, especially related to lead.

Getting Through It: After the Fires #5 Jan 04, 2026

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After a wildfire, the impact on the geography of the burnt area undergoes changes due to not only the clearing of vegetation and structures, but also the change that happen due to the extreme heat. These impacts create conditions where debris flows can be especially intense in the months and years following the fire. In this episode, geologist Dr. Michael Lamb, who created and runs the Caltech Earth Surface Dynamics Laboratory, shares what to expect from potential debris flows based on the models he's created in his lab and what we know about the burn areas in Altadena, Malibu, and the Pacific Palisades.

Getting Through It: After the Fires #4 Dec 29, 2025

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In this episode, Dr. Jones shares insights on the California policy of “Zone Zero,” related to 5 feet of clearance around houses in high fire risk zones to protect them from future fire risk. She offers her interpretation of the science around this policy and what it means for Southern California.

Getting Through It: After the Fires #3 Dec 29, 2025

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In this episode, the podcast is joined by Dr. Keith Porter, a professor at the Institute for Catastrophic Loss Reduction, which is affiliated with Western University, London, Ontario. As an engineer, he shares his insight on what makes a home safe in the face of wildfire. For information on making a fire safe home from the ICLR, visit their Wildfire Resource Hub.

Getting Through It: After the Fires #2 Nov 26, 2025

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In this episode, we're joined by Chief Steve Hawks, Senior Director of Wildfire for IBHS, to share what firesafe rebuilding looks like. During the conversation, he shares insights about the Wildfire Prepared Home program.

Getting Through It: After the Fires #1 Nov 26, 2025

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Welcome to a new season of Getting Though It: After the Fires where we'll be sharing insights on recovery and rebuilding with scientists and experts researching the best way to build resilience in the face of wildfires.

Episode 117 - Hurricane Season Aug 29, 2023

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In this special guest episode of Getting Through It, Dr. Lucy Jones sits down with Emiliano Rodríguez Nuesch, a specialist in creative risk communication and the director of the risk communications agency Pacífico. In the wake of tropical storm Hilary in Los Angeles and reflecting on Emiliano’s hurricane preparedness work in the Caribbean, they discuss how to manage the risks we face as climate change is increasing the frequency and intensity of hurricanes. They then highlight innovative approaches to effective risk communication as it relates to hurricanes.

Episode 116 - What the U.S. Can Learn From Earthquakes in Turkey Feb 08, 2023

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The devastating magnitude 7.8 earthquake in Turkey on February 6, 2023 and its aftershocks have many people wondering if the same impacts and damage could happen in Southern California. In this episode, Dr. Jones lays out how to get from good codes to good buildings. She reminds us that buildings are only as good as the building code that was in place at the time it was constructed and the degree to which that code was enforced.

Episode 115 - The Reality of Atmospheric Rivers Jan 18, 2023

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In this special guest episode of Getting Through It, Dr. Lucy Jones sits down with Keith Porter, chief engineer of the Institute for Catastrophic Loss Reduction and of the original ARkStorm scenario, to discuss the impact of the atmospheric river and subsequent flooding on the entire state of California in January 2023. They think back on what they modeled in the ARkStorm scenario and what it takes to go from where the damages are now to the worst phase as modeled in the scenario. Then, they talk through how to confront this extreme weather as an ongoing feature of weather in California.

Episode 114 - All About Liquefaction Nov 18, 2022

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Whenever there is a big earthquake near the coast, people often worry about tsunamis and liquefaction. We know tsunamis happen when the shape of the sea floor changes and moves the water, but liquefaction is not quite as simple. In this episode, Dr Jones explains what liquefaction is, when it occurs, and how to know if you are at risk .

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