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Professor Kees van der Pijl discusses his new book which explains how the virus crisis is a fraud and cover for political seizure of power. The medical emergency is just a pretext for digital identity passport systems. He discusses the players behind this ruling oligarchy whose concentration is unprecedented in history. Elites are using a strategy of tension to subjugate an otherwise unruly global populace which has been on the verge of 1848-style revolution. The medical phase of the coup can turn toward war (e.g. Russia) as another means of consolidating rule. The ruling class believes they have a small window of time to cement their power on the heels of the historic AI revolution. He explains the mechanisms by which the oligarchy is able to impose worldwide regulatory processes on entire continents and how China is cooperating in this 'ultra-imperialism' with the West. He's optimistic that the political project that is Covid can't go on for much longer, will fall apart, and that they do not yet possess the technology required to roll out a total digital control system. A core group of society is also increasingly rejecting their insane vision of the future.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Kees Van Der Pijl: The Virus Crisis is a Fraud & Cover for a Global Political Seizure of Power #255
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Geopolitics & Empire:
The Geopolitics & Empire podcast is joined by Dutch political economist, Dr. Kees van der Pijl. He taught at the University of Amsterdam and the University of Sussex. He is the author of numerous books, but today we'll be talking about his new absolutely must-read book, States OF Emergency: Keeping the Global Population in Check. Welcome Kees. How is the state of emergency going over there in the Netherlands?
Kees van der Pijl:
Well, it's pretty bleak. And you may have seen that I dedicated the book to the young, because in my view, the children and the student age are really bearing the brunt of this. Because for somebody of my age, I now find that two years is nothing. Entirely speaking for myself and my wife, for us it was an interesting time, politically interesting and so on, but if I see what happens to my children+ and to all the children here and to students, we're looking at a drama, because for them, two years is a lifetime if you're developing. So in that sense, I'm really very gloomy, and of course we are subject now to the rollout of an EU project of a digital identity, and that's what it's all about. The whole medical thing is just a pretext to get us used to taking vaccinations.
Everything is in a very incomplete state, so it will probably end in a disaster and chaos anyway, but that in itself is not a promising prospect. Now, Holland is unrecognizable, I would say, except if you compare it to the second world war and the occupation in which the Dutch population already gave a taste of a very peculiar attitude which can only be compared with some Eastern European countries. For instance, we... Well, I wasn't there of course, but the generation of my parents and grandparents, they basically let the Jews of Holland being abducted, never to return, whereas the rest of Western Europe on average had a better attitude, hiding people to a greater degree. It happened here in Holland as well, but anyway, that's the comparison that keeps popping up.
This is the first time since the second world war that we had a curfew, that we had a lockdown, that we had police brutality to a degree not seen in this country in my whole lifetime. And everything is being denied, and I'm not telling you anything that you didn't know already, but it's grim. And it's not grim for me because I'm sitting here and functioning, but it's grim for the children. I just heard today that neither of my small grandchildren want to go to school any longer because they have to wear masks in the corridor, and kids get nervous of that because they don't know why that would be.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you as well. And I feel the exact same way, the fear is not for myself, but for the youth and my children. I can deal with these things. I've lived a good enough life until now, so I don't care about myself. And I also think it's a fair comparison what you bring up. I've been saying this from the beginning. And I was in Central Asia in 2020, and I actually had planned to move back to Europe to my homeland of Croatia, but as soon as I discovered what was really going on behind the state of emergency, in early 2020, I decided to flee back to Latin America where I thought we would have more freedoms for a bit longer, which has been proving to be the case so far. And I think it's-
Kees van der Pijl:
In Mexico, huh?
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah, in Mexico. They just activated also vaccine certificates here a week ago, so it's a battle. 500 people have filed an injunction against the governor because it's anti-constitutional. But also your comparison with World War II, there's a Croatian MEP who recently-
Kees van der Pijl:
I saw him.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Yeah. He yelled at Macron and von der Leyen, and comparing what is happening now to the Nazi occupation, so you're not alone. But let's get through your book. There's so much here. I highly recommend this book. I think it's on sale actually at Clarity Press, 40% off, people can go there now. But there's so much information in it, and it's hard to pick a place to start, but you [inaudible 00:05:01] that the ruling oligarchy has seized on the virus outbreak, having manufactured it essentially to declare a state of emergency in order to put the breaks on the IT revolution from ushering in a democratic transformation, like the printing press did in the middle ages. You talk about an internationalized global state dominated by international capital which has been preparing for economic collapse and 1848 style revolutions. You also call this oligarchy the intelligence IT media block. So maybe to start, people will always ask, who are they, and how would you describe this ruling oligarchy?
Kees van der Pijl:
Well, the first thing from a theoretical viewpoint is that you should never fix it as an existing entity which doesn't change. The title of my doctoral dissertation somewhere decades and decades ago had class formation, and I think when you think of a ruling class and any other class in society, you always should think of class formation that is within society like a magnetic field. There occurs a certain sense of direction in a particular way. When you mentioned this triangle that I sketch in the book, the intelligence services, IT giants and the media, they constitute a core that leads this process of class formation in the current period. That will be my thesis.
And of course that doesn't exhaust the other components or fractions of a ruling class. They also must become involved in that process of class formation, because they can't take time enough off and wait for better times or whatever. So even the banks who are now being disciplined in my view have to be on board and want to be on board. The pharmaceutical companies join the process because, almost unexpectedly for them at least in the longer view, they become very important. If you think back of the war on terror, for instance, the pharmaceutical industry of course was somewhere at the end of the line, they had no particular role to play.
Suddenly, they found themselves in the forefront, because the medical pretext for the whole politics of fear that is being rolled out now is of a different kind. So in that sense, class transformation takes a different turn. You always have to compare it to the war on terror, because that was basically at an international level at least the first time that a comprehensive politics of fear was rolled out, some people say, to deal with the Seattle explosion, with the sudden explosion against the extreme free trade that was in the works.
There are many other elements that enter into that, but in that case, you still had a different... Well, not necessarily a triangle, but you had a different block of forces leading the process of transformation, and this has now switched to the triangle that I just described and that I explain in the book, which is pretty self-evident. Of course if it's an IT revolution, then the revolutionaries must include the people who created this IT world, which is basically a state-driven invention process which was then privatized after 1990, because after 1990, capital no longer tolerated any sort of public constraint imposed on it. So in that sense, after the collapse of the Soviet Bloc in the state socialist episode, everything has to be privatized by the logic of the system, and it's that process which created the oligarchy in its present form.
But we shouldn't forget that, even in the crisis itself,...
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