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Future of Education Podcast

The Future of Education Podcast is the place to find out what’s happening in schools. Our guests are wide and varied, from educators, entrepreneurs, athletes, celebrities, influencers and most importantly-our students! They all have one thing in common- they are passionate about reinventing education to make it relevant and efficient.

Our host, MacKenzie Price, is the Co-Founder of 2hr Learning (2hourlearning.com) and some of the top-performing schools in the country. 2 Hour Learning is a groundbreaking school model that is reshaping the landscape of K-12 education. It’s powered by AI technology, enabling schools to provide personalized curriculum to students. Our K-12 schools perform in the top 2% nationwide by leveraging this personalize model to help students love school, learn twice as much, and build life skills. MacKenzie is at the forefront of educational transformation, striving for a balanced and enriching learning experience for every child. She graduated with a BA in Psychology from Stanford University and resides in Austin, Texas, with her husband and two daughters.

The Future of Education podcast is produced by 7 Lyons Media (7LyonsMedia.com). Please send press inquiries to mkp@2hourlearning.com.

Latest Episodes:

S2E363: How to Be a Mentor to Your Kid (Not Just a Parent) Oct 23, 2026

Show notes

Many parents worry about whether their kids are developing the character, resilience, and adaptability needed for a fast-changing world. In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with Chauncey—a former Teach for America core member, NYC Department of Education leader, Goldman Sachs talent executive, and current Alpha School guide. Chauncey shares how combining high standards with high support creates the ultimate mentor mindset, and how parents can bring these exact frameworks into their homes.

Chauncey breaks down why most life lessons are "caught, not taught," how to decouple age from learning stage so kids master concepts without shame, and practical ways parents can step into their child’s world to unlock quiet or anxious kids.

Episode Timestamps

03:28 - Chauncey’s Journey: Teach for America, Penn, Dept of Ed & Goldman Sachs
08:08 - Why AI Education Is 90% Human Mentorship, 10% Technology
09:02 - The "Big Game" vs. "Little Games": Raising Kids with Character
11:57 - Transitioning from Traditional Teaching to the Mentor Model
13:59 - Lessons Are Caught, Not Taught: The Mirror Loop for Parents
15:33 - The "Glows, Grows & Everyone Should Know" Daily Framework
18:31 - How Taking Immediate Ownership Neutralizes Conflict
20:04 - "Love of School Is Love of Life": Making Daily Routines Joyful
22:50 - High Standards + High Support: Why Kids Crave Real Challenges
26:18 - Decoupling Age and Stage: Eliminating Academic Shame in Kids
31:20 - How to Step Into the World of a Quiet or Anxious Child
34:09 - Bringing World-Class Educational Innovation to a Billion Kids

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

S2E362: Is Your Kid's School Teaching Reading Wrong? 5 Non-Negotiables from a Curriculum Expert Oct 16, 2026

Show notes

National reading scores are plummeting, yet many schools are still using reading programs that completely ignore basic learning science. In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with curriculum expert and learning scientist Karen Vaites to unpack the national literacy crisis and expose what most schools get wrong about teaching kids to read.

Karen unveils the 5 non-negotiables every parent must evaluate their child’s elementary reading curriculum for. She exposes why traditional classrooms are failing young readers and gives parents an actionable 5-step checklist—covering phonics, progress screening, knowledge-building, reading volume, and writing—to ensure their child gets the reading education they deserve.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - The National Literacy Crisis & Guest Introduction

01:12 - Why Early Reading Is the Tailwind for All Academic Success

02:51 - What’s Driving the Reading Decline? Screens & School Distractions

05:23 - Science of Reading vs. Faddish Classroom Methods

08:08 - The Cricket Passage Test: Why Background Knowledge Drives Comprehension

12:38 - The "Southern Surge": How Mississippi & Louisiana Turned Scores Around

15:37 - Phonics vs. Whole Language: How Kids Actually Learn the English Code

22:44 - Non-Negotiable 1: Phonics (What to Look For)

25:43 - Non-Negotiable 2: Third-Party Screening

27:38 - K–2 Milestones: When Should Parents Actually Worry?

30:14 - Non-Negotiable 3: Knowledge-Building Curricula

33:21 - Non-Negotiable 4: High Volume of Reading Full Books

34:00 - Non-Negotiable 5: Integrated Daily Writing

34:30 - What Parents Can Do at Home to Safeguard Literacy

37:08 - Next-Gen Tools: Alpha Phonics & Science-Backed Learning

38:34 - Decoding Irregular Words

41:39 - Debunking the Biggest Literacy Myth in American Education

Resources & Links Mentioned

UFLY (University of Florida Literacy Institute): www.ufli.education.ufl.edu/
Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons: https://a.co/d/0j64tHNY
The Knowledge Matters Campaign: https://knowledgematters.org/

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

S2E361: The Harvard Business Approach to Raising Critical Thinkers Oct 09, 2026

Show notes

Many kids today are struggling to think independently, handle high-pressure moments, and make strategic choices on their own. Terrence McMullen—a Harvard MBA graduate and Dean of Parents at Alpha—is on a mission to fix that. Having spent 15 years teaching advanced business acumen and negotiation to K-12 students, Terrence has built programs alongside Goldman Sachs and partnered with over 20 top independent schools across New York.

In this conversation, Terrence shares how adapting the Harvard Business School case method equips parents to build deep critical thinking, refine real-world communication, and raise adaptable children who know how to analyze complex situations on the fly.

In this episode, we discuss:

The Harvard Business School Case Method: How Socratic questioning and real-world business scenarios encourage kids to think on their feet and question their own assumptions.
Teaching Strategy Through Scenarios: An inside look at how a Steve Jobs iPhone launch case teaches 10-year-olds pricing, positioning, and market trade-offs.
Real-World Application: How student-led projects give kids direct experience.
Practical At-Home Exercises: Simple strategies parents can use during daily routines.
Recognizing Critical Thinking Gaps: Behavioral signs that indicate a child needs practice in evaluating alternatives.
Strategic Communication & Empathy: How teaching kids to read non-verbal cues improves social competence and negotiation skills.

Episode Timestamps:

01:28 - The Socratic case method at Harvard Business School
02:37 - Adapting business challenges for young students
04:13 - Example: Using the Steve Jobs iPhone launch to teach marketing and pricing
07:16 - Real-world simulations: Student-run operations and financial accountability
08:58 - The limitations of test-focused traditional classrooms
11:32 - Why business topics serve as an engaging medium for critical thinking
12:50 - Step-by-step guide for parents to run case discussions at home
19:49 - Behavioral indicators that a child lacks problem-solving flexibility
22:26 - Resist the "easy button": Supporting children without solving every issue
27:50 - Using post-mortem discussions to reflect on decisions without judgment
33:20 - Developing strategic communication, empathy, and active listening
38:52 - How parental mindfulness and reflection support child development

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

S2E360: A Stanford ER Doctor’s Blueprint for Raising Healthy Kids— With Dr. Viveta Lobo Oct 02, 2026

Show notes

What does it actually take to keep kids healthy, active, and out of the emergency room? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Dr. Viveta Lobo—a Stanford ER physician, professor, Alpha parent, and mother of three—to unpack a practical, preventive approach to childhood health, physical fitness, and nutrition. In this conversation, Dr. Lobo breaks down commonly asked questions in a compilation of essential, doctor-approved best practices for parents.

In this episode, we cover:

Movement as Brain Fuel: How physical activity releases BDNF ("Miracle-Gro for the brain") to improve executive function, memory, and classroom focus.

Strength Training for Kids: Dispelling myths around weightlifting, and why resistance training helps kids—especially those carrying extra weight—build physical competence over humiliation.

Building Child Agency: Why letting kids handle age-appropriate responsibilities (from setting alarms to planning family meals) builds real-world judgment that AI cannot replace.

Practical Family Nutrition: The 80/20 approach to snacks, hitting daily protein targets (~1.5g/kg), and enforcing the "three-bite rule" for picky eaters.

Preventive Healthcare: Moving away from reactive ER visits to establish core lifestyle habits (movement, nutrition, mental health, community) early in life.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - Meeting Dr. Viveta Lobo

00:56 - Shifting from Reactive ER Care to Preventive Health

03:38 - Relocating to Austin & Choosing Texas Sports Academy

05:00 - Why Physical Activity is "Miracle-Gro" for the Brain (BDNF)

09:33 - Debunking Myths: Strength & Resistance Training for Children

13:17 - Reframing Exercise for Overweight & Non-Athletic Kids

22:52 - Building Agency & Independence in Children at Home

25:07 - Food Formulas: Pantry Management, the 80/20 Rule & Gas Station Treats

30:22 - Child Nutrition: Protein Targets & Complete Amino Acids

39:22 - Overcoming Picky Eaters & The "Three-Bite Rule"

43:38 - Maximizing Growth Potential & Childhood Height

45:53 - Changing the Paradigm: Lifestyle Medicine Over Emergency Rooms

49:26 - Early Warning Signs of Mental Health Struggles in Teens

55:05 - Dr. Lobo’s Personal Journey: Micro-Preemies & Unlocking Limitless Potential

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

S2E359: The Reality of Building an Alternative School—With Infinity Academy Founders Gillian and Jenna Sep 25, 2026

Show notes

What actually happens when you leave traditional careers to build an alternative school from scratch? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with fellow alternative school founders Gillian Berard (former public school teacher) and Jenna Baggott (former NICU nurse) to unpack the practical realities of launching Infinity Academy, a project-based microschool on 17 acres in Ontario.

From navigating local zoning laws using yurt classrooms to balancing AI-powered personalized academics with outdoor life skills, it’s a candid, unfiltered look at the practical realities of launching an alternative school today.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro: Meeting the Founders of Infinity Academy

01:29 - Why Reforming Public Education Feels Like "Steering the Titanic"

03:22 - Leaving Nursing & Teaching to Build Something New

06:31 - Infinity Academy’s Vision: Self-Directed & Nature-Based

08:18 - Using AI & Adaptive Tools for Core Academics

12:45 - The Role of the Educator as a "Guide"

14:53 - Addressing Common Misconceptions About Alternative Schools

17:37 - Student Motivation & Real-World Application

19:09 - The Reality of Year 1: Zoning, Funding & Risk

24:09 - Yurt Classrooms & Bypassing Structural Permits

25:30 - Using Social Media to Prove What School Can Be

27:45 - Practical Advice for Launching Your Own Microschool

Connect with Infinity Academy on Instagram: @infinity_education.inc

Learn more about Infinity Academy: www.infinityacademyed.com/

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about all our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E358: The Ambitious Parent Trap (& The Leadership Skill You Need to Escape It) with Heather Chauvin Sep 18, 2026

Show notes

Leadership skills in the workplace don't always translate to leadership skills in the home. Often times, the well-intentioned efforts of ambitious parents can lead to surprising consequences for their kids. As it turns out, the secret to raising extraordinary, self-driven kids isn't just pushing harder and chasing optimization...and today's guest is here to unpack just that.

In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Heather Chauvin—former social worker, stage 4 cancer survivor, host of the Emotionally Uncomfortable podcast, and advisor to high-achieving leaders—to talk about how ambitious parents can lead their families without burning out in the process.

We're covering:

Energy Management vs. Time Management: What happens when you fill your calendar without first seeking emotional alignment.
Intentionality vs. Control: How to stop micromanaging and support your child's innate development.
The Overparenting Trap: Why high achievers accidentally create a "comfort crisis" for their kids and how to break the cycle.
Parenting as Quiet Leadership: How to shift out of being "the doer" who controls every task.

Episode Timestamps:

02:42 – Performative Parenting: Trapped in the Comparison Game

05:14 – A Stage 4 Cancer Diagnosis and a Burnout Crisis

07:47 – Energy Management vs. Time Management

09:53 – Why Reactive Living Drains Your Daily Capacity

14:43 – Intentionality vs. Control: Are You Supporting or Micromanaging?

15:43 – The "Time & Energy Audit": Making Invisible Stress Visible

18:44 – The #1 Mistake High-Achieving Parents Make With Their Kids

25:38 – Overparenting and the "Comfort Crisis" in Modern Childhood

27:28 – Why Emotional Regulation Beats Quick Fixes Every Time

31:44 – From "The Doer" to "The Be-er": Reframing Parenting as Quiet Leadership

34:56 – Simple Steps to Buy Back Your Time and Reclaim Vitality

Learn more about Heather Chauvin: www.heatherchauvin.com

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

S2E357: The 15-Minute Weekly Habit That Turns Kids into Self-Starters Sep 11, 2026

Show notes

What if one focused conversation each week could help your child identify roadblocks, set meaningful goals, and take ownership of what happens next?

In this episode, MacKenzie speaks with Jackson—an Alpha Guide with a background in sports psychology—about Limitless Meetings: recurring, one-on-one coaching conversations that transform a student's ability to set and stick to goals. Jackson explains how to structure a quick, focused check-in, adapt the conversation to a child’s age and interests, and use motivational interviewing instead of defaulting to lectures or quick solutions.

Parents and educators will leave with a practical framework for helping children articulate what they want, identify what is getting in the way, choose their own next step, and determine exactly how they want to be held accountable.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 – An Introduction to Limitless Meetings

02:58 – Finding the Sweet Spot: Ideal Meeting Lengths for Every Age

05:06 – From Songwriting to Social Skills: Setting Clear, Actionable Goals

06:36 – The Paint-by-Numbers Trick: Keeping Kids Engaged During Deep Conversations

10:48 – Moving from Parent-Led Directives to Student-Owned Agendas

11:56 – The Two Golden Rules: Confidentiality and Tying Goals to Real Life Skills

16:58 – Motivational Interviewing: A Simple Questioning Framework for Parents

24:28 – Positive Reinforcement vs. Negative Punishment

27:28 – The "WTF" Framework

29:21 – How to Use AI to Grade Coaching Conversations

40:43 – The Perfect Closing Question: Establishing Meaningful Accountability

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E356: "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire": A Skeptical Educator Tested Our Learning Model in India Sep 04, 2026

Show notes

When Dr. Tasha Arnold came across Alpha's MAP test scores, she was in disbelief. As a lifelong lover of traditional schooling with two decades of experience teaching everywhere from Chicago public schools to top private schools in London and Mumbai, Tasha decided to test the learning model out for herself.

In this episode, MacKenzie and Tasha (who is now the Head of School at Alpha!) dive deep into the massive paradigm shift required to accept AI in the classroom, why technology actually increases human interaction, and why giving kids the space to fail might be the most important thing we can do for their future.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction: The Ultimate Skeptic

02:37 - Dr. Tasha’s Global Education Background

05:13 - The New Scarcity: Human Connection vs. Content

07:21 - The Reality of Traditional Classrooms & Lesson Plans

16:44 - Building Life Skills: "UN" Style Town Halls

21:12 - Protecting the Good Teachers (And Filtering the Rest)

25:44 - The "Failure Loop" & Practicing "Support, Not Solve"

30:53 - Building True Confidence Through Competence

34:42 - Data Privacy & Addressing AI Skepticism

38:05 - The Future of AI in Public Schools

41:50 - The Mumbai Experiment: From Skeptic to Believer

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

Learn more about all of our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

S2E355: Steal the Stock Market Simulation We Use to Build Young Investors Aug 28, 2026

Show notes

In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Alpha guide Chris Hays to break down the stock market simulation he uses to make investing, risk, and reward click for students. Using classroom currency, multiple investment options, and fictional market news, Chris turns a complex topic into a 20-minute weekly game that parents and educators can recreate- even if they're new to investing themselves.

The conversation goes beyond investing and explores practical ways to teach kids how to earn, save, spend, and donate. From needs-versus-wants discussions to a student-run claw machine business, this episode is full of approachable ideas for building financial confidence, curiosity, and strong money habits early on.

Episode Timestamps:

01:20 - Caricaturizing Money: "Professor Dinero"

02:19 - Needs vs. Wants Explored

03:32 - Steal the "Alpha" Currency System We Use

07:12 - Exploring the Controversy of Paying Students

09:55 - The Student Stock Market Explained

18:50 - Elevating Ordinary Lemonade Stands: A Case Study

24:11 - Entrepreneurship Anecdotes

29:41 - Alternative Reward Systems

34:30 - The Five Buckets of Financial Literacy

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E354: Are You Passing Limiting Beliefs to Your Kid? (6 Simple Fixes) Aug 21, 2026

Show notes

How do you help a child who says "I'm bad at math," "I can't read," or "That's just not my thing"? In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with Alexis Wilson, growth mindset and performance coach, to discuss how parents and educators can help kids break out of fixed mindsets and build genuine self-confidence (hint: empty affirmations without evidence don't work). Plus, they confront the harsh fact that parents' hidden fears can cause more issues in kids than any lack of natural talent—and how small shifts at home can completely change a child's identity.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction: Growth Mindset vs. Fixed Mindset

03:40 - The Science: How Brains Change with Neuroplasticity

05:09 - Spotting a Fixed Mindset: "That's Just Not My Thing"

06:40 - How to Change a Child's Negative Self-Talk

10:37 - Why Confidence Requires Real Evidence & Reps

17:33 - How Kids Unconsciously Pick Up Their Parents' Fears

23:14 - Are You Secretly Sabotaging Your Child's Mindset?

29:08 - The Power of "Yet" & Normalizing Mistakes

33:55 - How Growth Mindset Transforms Family Dynamics at Home

39:24 - "Mom, I'm Not Dumb": A 7th Grader's Identity Shift

42:42 - Step-by-Step: How Parents Can Reframe Limiting Beliefs Today

44:42 - Knowing When to Pivot vs. When to Keep Pushing

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

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