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Future of Education Podcast

The Future of Education Podcast is the place to find out what’s happening in schools. Our guests are wide and varied, from educators, entrepreneurs, athletes, celebrities, influencers and most importantly-our students! They all have one thing in common- they are passionate about reinventing education to make it relevant and efficient.

Our host, MacKenzie Price, is the Co-Founder of 2hr Learning (2hourlearning.com) and some of the top-performing schools in the country. 2 Hour Learning is a groundbreaking school model that is reshaping the landscape of K-12 education. It’s powered by AI technology, enabling schools to provide personalized curriculum to students. Our K-12 schools perform in the top 2% nationwide by leveraging this personalize model to help students love school, learn twice as much, and build life skills. MacKenzie is at the forefront of educational transformation, striving for a balanced and enriching learning experience for every child. She graduated with a BA in Psychology from Stanford University and resides in Austin, Texas, with her husband and two daughters.

The Future of Education podcast is produced by 7 Lyons Media (7LyonsMedia.com). Please send press inquiries to mkp@2hourlearning.com.

Latest Episodes:

S2E359: The Reality of Building an Alternative School—With Infinity Academy Founders Gillian and Jenna Sep 25, 2026

Show notes

What actually happens when you leave traditional careers to build an alternative school from scratch? In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with fellow alternative school founders Gillian Berard (former public school teacher) and Jenna Baggott (former NICU nurse) to unpack the practical realities of launching Infinity Academy, a project-based microschool on 17 acres in Ontario.

From navigating local zoning laws using yurt classrooms to balancing AI-powered personalized academics with outdoor life skills, it’s a candid, unfiltered look at the practical realities of launching an alternative school today.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro: Meeting the Founders of Infinity Academy

01:29 - Why Reforming Public Education Feels Like "Steering the Titanic"

03:22 - Leaving Nursing & Teaching to Build Something New

06:31 - Infinity Academy’s Vision: Self-Directed & Nature-Based

08:18 - Using AI & Adaptive Tools for Core Academics

12:45 - The Role of the Educator as a "Guide"

14:53 - Addressing Common Misconceptions About Alternative Schools

17:37 - Student Motivation & Real-World Application

19:09 - The Reality of Year 1: Zoning, Funding & Risk

24:09 - Yurt Classrooms & Bypassing Structural Permits

25:30 - Using Social Media to Prove What School Can Be

27:45 - Practical Advice for Launching Your Own Microschool

Connect with Infinity Academy on Instagram: @infinity_education.inc

Learn more about Infinity Academy: www.infinityacademyed.com/

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about all our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E358: The Ambitious Parent Trap (& The Leadership Skill You Need to Escape It) with Heather Chauvin Sep 18, 2026

Show notes

Leadership skills in the workplace don't always translate to leadership skills in the home. Often times, the well-intentioned efforts of ambitious parents can lead to surprising consequences for their kids. As it turns out, the secret to raising extraordinary, self-driven kids isn't just pushing harder and chasing optimization...and today's guest is here to unpack just that.

In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Heather Chauvin—former social worker, stage 4 cancer survivor, host of the Emotionally Uncomfortable podcast, and advisor to high-achieving leaders—to talk about how ambitious parents can lead their families without burning out in the process.

We're covering:

Energy Management vs. Time Management: What happens when you fill your calendar without first seeking emotional alignment.
Intentionality vs. Control: How to stop micromanaging and support your child's innate development.
The Overparenting Trap: Why high achievers accidentally create a "comfort crisis" for their kids and how to break the cycle.
Parenting as Quiet Leadership: How to shift out of being "the doer" who controls every task.

Episode Timestamps:

02:42 – Performative Parenting: Trapped in the Comparison Game

05:14 – A Stage 4 Cancer Diagnosis and a Burnout Crisis

07:47 – Energy Management vs. Time Management

09:53 – Why Reactive Living Drains Your Daily Capacity

14:43 – Intentionality vs. Control: Are You Supporting or Micromanaging?

15:43 – The "Time & Energy Audit": Making Invisible Stress Visible

18:44 – The #1 Mistake High-Achieving Parents Make With Their Kids

25:38 – Overparenting and the "Comfort Crisis" in Modern Childhood

27:28 – Why Emotional Regulation Beats Quick Fixes Every Time

31:44 – From "The Doer" to "The Be-er": Reframing Parenting as Quiet Leadership

34:56 – Simple Steps to Buy Back Your Time and Reclaim Vitality

Learn more about Heather Chauvin: www.heatherchauvin.com

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

S2E357: The 15-Minute Weekly Habit That Turns Kids into Self-Starters Sep 11, 2026

Show notes

What if one focused conversation each week could help your child identify roadblocks, set meaningful goals, and take ownership of what happens next?

In this episode, MacKenzie speaks with Jackson—an Alpha Guide with a background in sports psychology—about Limitless Meetings: recurring, one-on-one coaching conversations that transform a student's ability to set and stick to goals. Jackson explains how to structure a quick, focused check-in, adapt the conversation to a child’s age and interests, and use motivational interviewing instead of defaulting to lectures or quick solutions.

Parents and educators will leave with a practical framework for helping children articulate what they want, identify what is getting in the way, choose their own next step, and determine exactly how they want to be held accountable.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 – An Introduction to Limitless Meetings

02:58 – Finding the Sweet Spot: Ideal Meeting Lengths for Every Age

05:06 – From Songwriting to Social Skills: Setting Clear, Actionable Goals

06:36 – The Paint-by-Numbers Trick: Keeping Kids Engaged During Deep Conversations

10:48 – Moving from Parent-Led Directives to Student-Owned Agendas

11:56 – The Two Golden Rules: Confidentiality and Tying Goals to Real Life Skills

16:58 – Motivational Interviewing: A Simple Questioning Framework for Parents

24:28 – Positive Reinforcement vs. Negative Punishment

27:28 – The "WTF" Framework

29:21 – How to Use AI to Grade Coaching Conversations

40:43 – The Perfect Closing Question: Establishing Meaningful Accountability

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E356: "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire": A Skeptical Educator Tested Our Learning Model in India Sep 04, 2026

Show notes

When Dr. Tasha Arnold came across Alpha's MAP test scores, she was in disbelief. As a lifelong lover of traditional schooling with two decades of experience teaching everywhere from Chicago public schools to top private schools in London and Mumbai, Tasha decided to test the learning model out for herself.

In this episode, MacKenzie and Tasha (who is now the Head of School at Alpha!) dive deep into the massive paradigm shift required to accept AI in the classroom, why technology actually increases human interaction, and why giving kids the space to fail might be the most important thing we can do for their future.

Episode Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction: The Ultimate Skeptic

02:37 - Dr. Tasha’s Global Education Background

05:13 - The New Scarcity: Human Connection vs. Content

07:21 - The Reality of Traditional Classrooms & Lesson Plans

16:44 - Building Life Skills: "UN" Style Town Halls

21:12 - Protecting the Good Teachers (And Filtering the Rest)

25:44 - The "Failure Loop" & Practicing "Support, Not Solve"

30:53 - Building True Confidence Through Competence

34:42 - Data Privacy & Addressing AI Skepticism

38:05 - The Future of AI in Public Schools

41:50 - The Mumbai Experiment: From Skeptic to Believer

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: www.futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about Alpha School: www.alpha.school

Learn more about all of our schools: www.2hourlearning.com/schools

S2E355: Steal the Stock Market Simulation We Use to Build Young Investors Aug 28, 2026

Show notes

In this episode, MacKenzie sits down with Alpha guide Chris Hays to break down the stock market simulation he uses to make investing, risk, and reward click for students. Using classroom currency, multiple investment options, and fictional market news, Chris turns a complex topic into a 20-minute weekly game that parents and educators can recreate- even if they're new to investing themselves.

The conversation goes beyond investing and explores practical ways to teach kids how to earn, save, spend, and donate. From needs-versus-wants discussions to a student-run claw machine business, this episode is full of approachable ideas for building financial confidence, curiosity, and strong money habits early on.

Episode Timestamps:

01:20 - Caricaturizing Money: "Professor Dinero"

02:19 - Needs vs. Wants Explored

03:32 - Steal the "Alpha" Currency System We Use

07:12 - Exploring the Controversy of Paying Students

09:55 - The Student Stock Market Explained

18:50 - Elevating Ordinary Lemonade Stands: A Case Study

24:11 - Entrepreneurship Anecdotes

29:41 - Alternative Reward Systems

34:30 - The Five Buckets of Financial Literacy

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E354: Are You Passing Limiting Beliefs to Your Kid? (6 Simple Fixes) Aug 21, 2026

Show notes

How do you help a child who says "I'm bad at math," "I can't read," or "That's just not my thing"? In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with Alexis Wilson, growth mindset and performance coach, to discuss how parents and educators can help kids break out of fixed mindsets and build genuine self-confidence (hint: empty affirmations without evidence don't work). Plus, they confront the harsh fact that parents' hidden fears can cause more issues in kids than any lack of natural talent—and how small shifts at home can completely change a child's identity.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction: Growth Mindset vs. Fixed Mindset

03:40 - The Science: How Brains Change with Neuroplasticity

05:09 - Spotting a Fixed Mindset: "That's Just Not My Thing"

06:40 - How to Change a Child's Negative Self-Talk

10:37 - Why Confidence Requires Real Evidence & Reps

17:33 - How Kids Unconsciously Pick Up Their Parents' Fears

23:14 - Are You Secretly Sabotaging Your Child's Mindset?

29:08 - The Power of "Yet" & Normalizing Mistakes

33:55 - How Growth Mindset Transforms Family Dynamics at Home

39:24 - "Mom, I'm Not Dumb": A 7th Grader's Identity Shift

42:42 - Step-by-Step: How Parents Can Reframe Limiting Beliefs Today

44:42 - Knowing When to Pivot vs. When to Keep Pushing

Watch the Future of Education on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@future_of_education

Read MacKenzie's Substack: futureofeducation.substack.com

Learn more about our schools: 2hourlearning.com/schools

Learn more about Alpha School: alpha.school

S2E353: A Former Principal Reveals the Biggest School Red and Green Flags Aug 14, 2026

Show notes

How can you tell if your child’s school is thriving or failing? In this episode, former Florida Principal of the Year Christie Ray joins Mackenzie to break down the critical red, yellow, and green flags parents often don't know to look for in their child's school. From invisible administrators and high teacher turnover to rigid policies and unexpected indicators of a toxic culture, Christie's decades of insider insight give parents a practical guide on how to evaluate any school—and, ultimately, relentlessly advocate for their kids.

Episode Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction: Meet Christy Ray (2020 Florida Principal of the Year)

02:59 - The Principal as a CEO: Evaluating Institutional Health

04:48 - Green Flag #1: Visible Leadership & Pickup/Drop-off Presence

07:28 - Green Flag #2: Low Teacher Turnover & "Coaching Up vs. Coaching Out"

08:29 - Addressing Bad Teachers: Unions, Contracts & Administrative Hurdles

13:17 - Professional Development: Does Teacher Training Actually Help?

14:22 - The "Silent Lunch" Controversy: Is It Good for Kids or Just Adults?

17:44 - Identifying Low Support: Bullying, Chaos, and Front Office Vibe

24:16 - How Parents Should Advocate: Being Relentless and Respectful

28:51 - How to Start Off on the Right Foot With Your Principal & Teachers

30:57 - Quick Breakdown: The Biggest School Red Flags to Watch For

31:31 - Gifting 101: Do Principals and Teachers Actually Want Mug Gifts?

S2E352: 40+ Cities, 9 Models: All of Our Schools Explained Aug 05, 2026

Show notes

When most people hear "Alpha," they think of our flagship campuses—but that’s only a small fraction of what we’ve built.

Across 40+ cities, Alpha has expanded into a diverse ecosystem of specialized academies and accessible models designed to fit different interests, locations, and budgets. Whether parents are looking for elite sports training, hands-on outdoor survival, gifted and talented programs, or affordable local options, there’s a model built for them.

In this episode, MacKenzie breaks down all current Alpha school models, explaining how each operates, who they are built for, and how we’re bringing personalized learning to families everywhere.

02:15 - NextGen Academy: Gaming & Esports

Learn more at www.nextgenacademy.school

05:30 - Waypoint Academy: Outdoor Survival & Wilderness Skills

Learn more at www.waypointacademy.school

08:45 - Texas Sports Academy: Single and Multi-Sport Specialty Academies

Learn more at www.sportsacademy.school

Listen to other episodes about Texas Sports Academy: Episodes #309, #310, and #311

11:50 - Alpha World School: High School Study Abroad in Kenya & Ecuador

Learn more at www.world.alpha.school

14:20 - Founders School: Entrepreneurship & Business Building

Learn more at www.founders.school

17:00 - GT School: Gifted & Talented School

Learn more at www.gt.school

19:40 - Montessorium: Modernized, Tech-Enabled Montessori

Learn more at www.montessorium.school

Listen to other episodes about Montessorium: Episode #344

22:15 - Nova Academy: Affordable Access to Our Model

Learn more at www.novaacademy.school

25:30 - Alpha Schools: Our Flagship School, Now Expanded

Learn more at www.alpha.school

S2E351: Memory Palaces, Spaced Repetition, and Forced Recall: Memorization Tricks from an 11-Year-Old History Expert Jul 31, 2026

Show notes

How does an 11-year-old memorize every U.S. president in order, read at an 11th-grade level, and compete in national academic bees? In this episode, Mackenzie sits down with Everest, a fifth-grade student who has mastered the science of learning how to learn.

Everest breaks down the exact study techniques she uses to absorb information at lightning speed, including spaced repetition, forced recall, and how to build a "Memory Palace" using wild mental imagery. Beyond study hacks, she shares practical advice for parents on how to build genuine grit in kids, why it's crucial to let children follow their own interests rather than forcing subjects they hate, and how dealing with failure made her a stronger competitor.

S2E350: Philosophy is the New Computer Science (Why the AI Era Needs Deep Thinkers) Jul 25, 2026

Show notes

For the last decade, computer science was considered the undisputed king of college majors. But in the age of AI, that script is rapidly being flipped. Now that AI can write code in seconds, the ability to think deeply and critically has become more important than ever.

In this episode, Mackenzie is joined by Alpha graduate Maddie Price, who recently traveled to France for an exclusive philosophy conference at Alexis de Tocqueville’s historical chateau. Together, they break down the growing national reading crisis, the fear of "soft despotism" (and a WALL-E-style future), and why the humanities are emerging as the most crucial toolset for the next generation of leaders.

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