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    Foster Parenting Podcast

    Foster parents T & W journey through the foster parenting and adoption process

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    Instant Family – What it Got Right and What it Got Wrong Nov 04, 2018
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    Instant Family movie posterAs foster-adoptive parents we loved how well Instant Family portrayed our community. We loved that it not only showed the tough times but the joy of making a family out of chaos. We’re certain the movie raised some questions about what it’s like the be a foster family and whether or not things are really the way they seem in the movie. If you’d like to listen to our full review, click here.

    Here’s a list of common questions that you might have after seeing the movie. Warning: SPOILERS!

    Pete and Ellie look through an internet listing of kids who need a family. Is that a real website?

    Yes, the website is Adopt US Kids. Many kids from all 50 states are listed in their photolisting but their listing doesn’t include every kid looking for a family.

    Pete and Ellie attend an adoption fair. Is that real? Isn’t it kind of gross, like shopping for kids?

    Yes, some counties really do put on adoption fairs. And YES, everyone thinks they are really awkward. But YES, kids and families are able to get connected much quicker through them. We know people who have adopted kids they met at an adoption fair. They are by-invitation-only for families that have already completed the certification process.

    Are there really foster parents in it just for the money?

    Instant Family portrays a couple known as the Muskies who are caring for the kids in a less that loving environment. The social workers confess that though they are a safe place for the kids, the Muskies will miss the paycheck. Instant Family gets it right that there are some people in the system in order to get the stipend that comes with caring for the kids, but most foster parents are not like that. Agencies generally make sure that prospective foster parents can care for their own needs without the monthly stipend. The stipend is different in every state and county but can be anywhere from $600-$1100 a month per child. Most foster parents will tell you that they spend more on the child than they receive.

    Do the kids really have to pack all of their stuff in garbage bags?

    Unfortunately this is the case for far too many kids. Many times they are forced to leave their birth families in a hurry and garbage bags are the only thing on hand. There are some great charities that are working to change this one stigma. Check out Together We Rise and Hope in a Suitcase. You’ll notice toward the end of the movie that Pete and Ellie start to pack all of the kids’ stuff into suitcases.

    Why did the kids have so many stuffed animals and why did they call them “Court Bears”?

    In many places, when children attend family court they are given the opportunity to pick a stuffed animal. If they end up going to court frequently they can end up with a lot of teddy bears.

    Why weren’t the kids taken away from Pete and Ellie when Juan dropped the nail gun on his foot? Wasn’t that neglect?

    Foster parents are held to high standards, but accidents can still happen. Foster parents have their homes checked on a regular basis to make sure they live in a safe environment, and tools like nail guns are required to be kept locked up. If this happened in a foster home in real life, there could be an investigation to determine if the foster parents were negligent in leaving a nail gun with Juan unsupervised. There would be a corrective action plan to retrain the foster parents. Pete and Ellie and their social workers would have also had to fill out a lot of paperwork after an event like that. Every time a child is hurt, most states require a Special Incident Report (SIR) to be filled out. This is in part to make sure it was truly an accident, and not that the foster parents are abusing the kids and claiming it’s an accident.

    Where were the kids after Pete and Ellie got arrested? Why didn’t they stay with Grandma Sandy? How did they get them back after assaulting someone?

    Foster kids have to remain with certified foster parents. Occasionally kids are temporarily moved to a respite home. Sometimes foster parents have to leave and can’t take the kids with them (vacation, funerals, weddings, etc), and in those cases the kids will stay with another foster parent. After Pete and Ellie are arrested, the kids go to spend the night with a respite family. Sometimes another family member that lives in the house with the foster parents will also be certified and the kids could remain in their home. Most states also practice some form of “prudent parenting” which allows a foster child to temporarily stay with someone who doesn’t have a foster license (like for a sleepover or camping trip with friends or family).

    Though the incident was played for laughs in the movie, assaulting a stranger is serious business. In real life it would be possible that Pete and Ellie would have lost their certification in addition to their other legal challenges. Their agency and county social workers would carefully consider the situation.

    Will the County take the kids away and give them back to their birth parents?

    The primary goal in foster care is family reunification. Every one is working to get the kids back home with their birth parents. That’s a good thing! Unfortunately it doesn’t always work out for every family. There are a certain number of benchmarks that birth parents must successfully pass in order to be reunified with their kids. If they don’t meet those standards the County will do their best to find an adoptive home for those kids. Usually their foster parents are asked first if they would like to adopt. Once adoption is finalized there is NO chance the kids will be returned to the birth parents (even if the birth-parents radically change their lives). Adoption is final; the kids are even issued new birth certificates that include the names of their adoptive parents.

    The kids have a visit with their birth mom. Is this typical?

    Yes most kids in foster care have regularly scheduled visits with their birth parents. The situations vary based on the circumstances of the case. Judges want kids to maintain an attachment with their birth parents, and visits provide an opportunity for parents to show they have the ability to parent their kids safely. Visits are scheduled regularly, sometimes more than once a week, and often with someone monitoring the visit. Many times the foster parents serve as the monitor. As reunification becomes more likely, birth parents are given unmonitored and overnight visits.

    Visits are court-ordered and foster parents don’t have a say in whether or not they happen. In the movie, Lizzy tells Pete and Ellie that she’d like to start seeing her birth mom. In real life, Pete and Ellie would have found out from their social worker. After adoption it’s up to the adoptive parents on whether or not there is any contact with the birth parents.

    Pete and Ellie say they feel like they’re just babysitting someone else’s kids. Is that how it is for everyone?

    For many foster parents, yes, they feel like they are viewed as long term babysitters. Birth parents often feel threatened by the relationship and view foster parents as part of a system that’s treating them unjustly. At times foster parents know more about the child and how to successfully redirect the child than the birth parent, but their input is frequently rejected. It can feel discouraging. Having a strong support group of people outside of the process can be helpful.

    Was the judge picking between Pete and Ellie and their birth mother?

    No, birth parents are evaluated on the merits of their own case. If the foster parents aren’t fit to parent, the kids are not returned to their birth parents; instead they are moved to a different foster family. Children are only returned to their birth parents when the parents demonstrate that they can provide a safe environment for their kids. In fact the judge in that scene says to Pete and Ellie, “This is not about you,” which is exactly right. Only the birth parent is evaluated in that court setting.

    Interested to learn more about how you can adopt through foster care? Check out Adopt US Kids. If you live in California, Washington or Nevada, we recommend our agency, Olive Crest.


    Episode 122 – What Do Foster Parents Think of Instant Family Oct 08, 2018
    Show notes

    Curious what foster parents think of Instant Family? We’ve got an early movie review for you here from a real life foster-adoptive family. Mark Wahlberg and Rose Byrne play a childless couple who decide to enter parenting through the foster care system and encounter all the struggles of parenting kids who have experienced trauma. We were able to see an early screening of the movie and can tell you everything you need to know. We offer both what we think of the movie for those who haven’t seen it and then dive into our reflections on how foster families are depicted in the movie with a spoiler-filled review. Listen to our latest episode here.

    Instant Family opens in theaters on November 16, 2018

    Instant Family

    What Happened to All of our Episodes? Nov 11, 2016
    Show notes

    To our wonderful listeners,

    Thank you so much for listening and learning with us all these years. After nine years of chronicling our family’s journey, we’ve decided to take a hiatus. You can still find a few of our favorite episodes here, and please like our page on Facebook to be notified of any future episodes.

    Looking back over the past nine years, we feel incredibly humbled that so many listeners have decided to join us in loving and serving foster kids. When we were new foster parents, we had grand visions of how we could impact the lives of children in foster care. Very quickly we realized that our ability to care for children was going to be limited by our own time, space and energy. So you can imagine how encouraged we’ve been to know that the podcast has played a part in others stepping up to care for children in foster care.

    Our website and Facebook page will remain up as we still plan on being a resource for foster parents. Keep up the hard work, because as you’ve heard… “Foster parenting is the most frustrating, heart-wrenching, all consuming thing we’ve ever done, but when it comes down to it, it’s just about helping kids. And that’s been the most rewarding thing in our lives.”


    My Kids Are Like Duct Tape Jun 10, 2014
    Show notes

    Foster and Adoptive parents know what it means to have “sticky kids”.


    Episode 116 – Unusual Adoption Story May 25, 2012
    Show notes

    T interviews Zach about their adoption and its many unusual circumstances. Their story will leave you inspired and stretch your imagination about what is possible in creating a family. Before listening to this episode make sure to watch this great video of “Meredith’s Big Surprise”


    Episode 115 – Indian Child Welfare Act May 10, 2012
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    Have you heard of special laws governing the adoption of children who are of Native American descent? In the US, children who are Native American fall under a specific law called the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA), which can govern their adoptive and foster placements.

    T interviews Johnston Moore about ICWA. They discuss the origins and intentions of the federal law and its ongoing application. Originally created to ensure the rights of Native Americans, Moore says that the law is sometimes used to make decisions that may not be in the best interests of children.

    Johnston Moore belongs to a network of activists working to amend the law. If you wish to contact him, he can be reached at http://www.home-4-ever.org


    What It’s Like to Be a Foster Parent Apr 16, 2012
    Show notes

    We made this short video to explain what it’s like to be a foster parent


    Episode 112 – Opening Up to Birth Parents Dec 21, 2011
    Show notes

    Many foster parents draw firm boundaries between themselves and their foster children’s birth parents. But is this right? In this interview with Saint Fults, a social worker in St. Louis, Missouri, we learn of another perspective of openness toward birth family relationships from the beginning of the child’s placement.

    Fults advocates that foster parents should consider opening their lives more fully to birth families, including hosting visits in the foster home.

    The perspective challenged us to think about what is truly best for the children in our care, and how a higher degree of openness in foster care might better set up birth families for successful reunification.


    Episode 109 – All the Dirt on Foster Care and Why You Should Still Do It Oct 26, 2011
    Show notes

    We recently were able to participate in the annual Together for Adoption Conference. This episode is based on the breakout session we led there.

    We’ve heard a lot of stories about foster care. Sometimes the stories are in the news, sometimes we hear them from people we know, and sometimes strangers volunteer their perspectives. Rather than sweeping the dirt under the rug, we think we should talk about it.

    So this episode is our attempt to confront negative stories about foster care experiences. We talk about abusive foster parents, delays in the adoption process, biased social workers and judges, and the pain of getting attached and having to say goodbye.

    Come see us in person and enjoy other great speakers at the KidBridge Seminar in Rolling Hills Estates, CA on Saturday, October 29!


    Episode 105 – Royal Family Kids Aug 05, 2011
    Show notes

    T interviews Jacob, a counselor at Royal Family Kids Camp, a summer program run by churches for foster kids throughout the country and internationally.

    Jacob mentioned his film project CAMP. You can contribute to his Kickstarter Campaign here. Help him reach his goal!


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