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    For Real

    For Real is a biweekly nonfiction podcast that puts the spotlight on new books and old favorites that tell it like it is, or at least try to.

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    Fell in a Hole (AKA True Stories Underground) Nov 09, 2021
    Show notes

    This week Alice and Kim dig deep for nonfiction about things you find underground, plus share new nonfiction about sports, food, and history.

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    For more nonfiction recommendations, sign up for our True Story newsletter, edited by Alice Burton.

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    Follow Up

    The Genome Defense: Inside the Epic Legal Battle to Determine Who Owns Your DNA by Jorge L. Contreras

    Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation by Kristin Kobes Du Mez

    Nonfiction in the News

    2021 Kirkus Prize Winners Announced [Book Riot]

    Scottie Pippen Takes Aim at Michael Jordan in New Book [New York Times]

    New Nonfiction

    Hail Mary: The Rise and Fall of the National Women’s Football League by Britni de la Cretaz and Lyndsey D’Arcangelo

    Taste Makers: Seven Immigrant Women Who Revolutionized Food in America by Mayukh Sen

    Black and Blue: A Memoir of Racism and Resilience by Veronica Gorrie

    An Afro-Indigenous History of the United States by Kyle T. Mays

    Fell in a Hole

    Trapped Under the Sea: One Engineering Marvel, Five Men, and a Disaster Ten Miles Into the Darkness by Neil Swidey

    The Mole People: Life in the Tunnels Beneath New York City by Jennifer Toth

    The Hidden Stories Behind Our Structures by Roma Agrawal

    Accidental Archaeologists: True Stories of Unexpected Discoveries by Sarah Albee

    Reading Now

    The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters by Priya Parker

    Chanel’s Riviera: Glamour, Decadence, and Survival in Peace and War, 1930-1944 by Anne de Courcy

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    Arab Women Writers Oct 26, 2021
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    This week Kim and Alice talk about books by Arab women writers, plus new nonfiction about gene patents, colonialism in the 1860s, and medieval manuscripts.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    Instagram: Ijeoma Oluo’s new newsletter

    Instagram: Bachelor Nation Publishes

    New Nonfiction

    The Gilded Page: The Secret Lives of Medieval Manuscripts by Mary Wellesley

    The Last Emperor of Mexico: The Dramatic Story of the Habsburg Archduke Who Created a Kingdom in the New World by Edward Shawcross

    Concepcion: An Immigrant Family’s Fortunes by Albert Samaha

    Best Wishes, Warmest Regards: The Story of Schitt’s Creek by Daniel Levy, Eugene Levy

    The Genome Defense: Inside the Epic Legal Battle to Determine Who Owns Your DNA by Jorge L. Contreras

    Arab Women Writers

    Our Women on the Ground: Essays by Arab Women Reporting from the Arab World, edited by Zahra Hankir

    A Most Masculine State: Gender, Politics and Religion in Saudi Arabia by Madawi Al-Rasheed

    Headscarves and Hymens: Why the Middle East Needs a Sexual Revolution by Mona Eltahawy

    Daring to Drive: A Saudi Woman’s Awakening by Manal Al-Sharif

    Reading Now

    Disability Visibility: First-Person Stories from the Twenty-First Century by Alice Wong

    She Came to Slay: The Life and Times of Harriet Tubman by Erica Armstrong Dunbar

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    Spooky Nonfiction Oct 12, 2021
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    This week Alice and Kim talk about creepy, spooky, and scary nonfiction for the Halloween season.

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    Follow Up

    Our holiday gift guide episode coming up November 23 — send us your requests at forreal@bookriot.com by November 15!

    It’s Book Riot’s birthday and there’s special merch.

    Nonfiction in the News

    2021 National Book Awards Finalists Announced [National Book Awards]

    Estate of Henrietta Lacks sues biotechnical company for nonconsensual use of her cells [CNN]

    New Nonfiction

    I’m Possible: A Story of Survival, a Tuba, and the Small Miracle of a Big Dream by Richard Antoine White

    Notable Native People: 50 Indigenous Leaders, Dreamers, and Changemakers from Past and Present by Adrienne Keene

    Smile: The Story of a Face by Sarah Ruhl

    On Animals by Susan Orlean

    Black Birds in the Sky: The Story and Legacy of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre by Brandy Colbert

    Weekly Theme: Spooky Nonfiction

    The Unidentified: Mythical Monsters, Alien Encounters, and Our Obsession with the Unexplained by Colin Dickey

    The Monster Show: A Cultural History of Horror by David J. Skal

    White Magic: Essays by Elissa Washuta

    Yurei Attack!: The Japanese Ghost Survival Guide by Hiroko Yoda and Matt Alt

    Reading Now

    KIM: Shelf Life: Chronicles of a Cairo Bookseller by Nadia Wassef

    ALICE: The Phantom Prince by Elizabeth Kendall


    CONCLUSION

    ALICE: You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink

    KIM: RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    Hispanic Heritage Month Sep 28, 2021
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    This week Alice and Kim highlight nonfiction books by Hispanic and Latinx authors.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    Historian of Race in America Gets an Unusual Four-Book Deal [New York Times]

    2021 National Book Award Longlists [NPR]

    New Nonfiction

    America Calling: A Foreign Student in a Country of Possibility by Rajika Bhandari

    Please Don’t Sit on My Bed in Your Outside Clothes: Essays by Phoebe Robinson – Tiny Reparations Books

    No Cure for Being Human: (And Other Truths I Need to Hear) by Kate Bowler

    True Raiders: The Untold Story of the 1909 Expedition to Find the Legendary Ark of the Covenant by Brad Ricca

    Weekly Theme: Hispanic Heritage Month

    National Hispanic American Heritage Month 2021

    Who is Hispanic? [Pew Research Center]

    Hispanic Or Latino? A Guide For The U.S. Presidential Campaign [NPR]

    Once Upon a Quinceanera: Coming of Age in the USA by Julia Alvarez

    My Sister: How One Sibling’s Transition Changed Us Both by Selenis and Marizol Leyva

    The Line Becomes a River: Dispatches from the Border by Francisco Cantú

    From Coveralls to Zoot Suits : The Lives of Mexican American Women on the World War II Home Front by Elizabeth Rachel Escobedo

    Quick Mentions

    • In the Dream House by Carmen Maria Machado
    • The Undocumented Americans by Karla Cornejo Villavicencio
    • Ordinary Girls by Jaquira Díaz

    Reading Now

    KIM: Harlem Shuffle: A Novel by Colson Whitehead

    ALICE: My Heart Is a Chainsaw by Stephen Graham Jones


    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    The One With Mary Roach Sep 14, 2021
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    This week Kim and Alice interview nonfiction powerhouse Mary Roach about renegade animals, tiger penises, and her amazing use of footnotes. Plus, new nonfiction about Chicago, online shopping, and segregation.

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    Follow Up

    The Quiet Zone: Unraveling the Mystery of a Town Suspended in Silence by Stephen Kurczy

    Paradise: One Town’s Struggle to Survive an American Wildfire by Lizzie Johnson

    New Nonfiction

    Three Girls from Bronzeville: A Uniquely American Memoir of Race, Fate, and Sisterhood by Dawn Turner

    Arriving Today: From Factory Floor to Front Door – Why Everything Has Changed About How and What We Buy by Christopher Mims

    Code Name Badass: The True Story of Virginia Hall by Heather Demetrios

    White Space, Black Hood: Opportunity Hoarding and Segregation in the Age of Inequality by Sheryll Cashin

    Beautiful Country: A Memoir by Qian Julie Wang

    We Are Not Broken by George M. Johnson

    Chasing the Truth: A Young Journalist’s Guide to Investigative Reporting by Ruby Shamir, Jodi Kantor, and Megan Twohey

    Interview with Mary Roach

    Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law by Mary Roach

    Reading Now

    Dragon Hoops by Gene Luen Yang

    We Sold Our Souls: A Novel by Grady Hendrix

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    Library Treasure Hunt Aug 31, 2021
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    This week Alice and Kim browse the library and find some surprising nonfiction reads.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    Blood, labs and fraud: Theranos’s Elizabeth Holmes is about to go on trial [Washington Post]

    New Nonfiction

    Seeing Ghosts: A Memoir by Kat Chow

    Doctoring the Black Death: Medieval Europe’s Medical Response to Plague by John Aberth

    Paradise: One Town’s Struggle to Survive an American Wildfire by Lizzie Johnson

    The Chinese Question: The Gold Rushes and Global Politics by Mae Ngai

    Weekly Theme: Library Treasure Hunt

    Futureface: A Family Mystery, An Epic Quest, and the Secret of Belonging by Alex Wagner

    Chanel’s Riviera: Glamour, Decadence, and Survival in Peace and War, 1930-1944 by Anne De Courcy

    Brave, Not Perfect: Fear Less, Fail More, and Live Bolder by Reshma Saujani

    Crazy Brave: A Memoir by Joy Harjo

    Wild Life: Dispatches from a Childhood of Baboons and Button-Downs by Keena Roberts

    The Ways of My Grandmothers by Beverly Hungry Wolf (1998)

    Reading Now

    KIM: The Box in the Woods by Maureen Johnson

    ALICE: Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation by Kristin Kobez du Mez


    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    True Stories to Adapt Aug 17, 2021
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    This week Kim and Alice battle through the “Delta Grumpies” to discuss stories they’d like to see adapted for television and film, plus cover new nonfiction from August.

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    For more nonfiction recommendations, sign up for our True Story newsletter, edited by Alice Burton.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    John Lithgow Joins Leonardo DiCaprio in Martin Scorsese’s ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ [Variety]

    New Nonfiction

    Belly of the Beast : The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness by Da’Shaun L. Harrison

    On Compromise: Art, Politics, and the Fate of an American Ideal by Rachel Greenwald Smith

    The Arbornaut: A Life Discovering the Eighth Continent in the Trees Above Us by Meg Lowman

    The Last Nomad: Coming of Age in the Somali Desert by Shugri Said Salh

    True Stories to Adapt

    The Yellow House: A Memoir by Sarah Broom

    American Fire: Love, Arson, and Life in a Vanishing Land by Monica Hesse

    Hudson Bay Bound: Two Women, One Dog, Two Thousand Miles to the Arctic by Natalie Warren

    Never Caught: The Washingtons’ Relentless Pursuit of Their Runaway Slave, Ona Judge by Erica Armstrong Dunbar

    All You Can Ever Know: A Memoir by Nicole Chung

    Reading Now

    Soundtracks: The Surprising Solution to Overthinking by Jon Acuff

    American Sherlock by Kate Winkler Dawson

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    Disney Reads Aug 03, 2021
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    This week Alice and Kim talk Disney reads!

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    Nonfiction in the News

    Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Reportedly Working on a Book About “Leadership and Philanthropy” [Vanity Fair]

    Molly Shannon Writes Memoir [People]

    New Nonfiction

    The Quiet Zone: Unraveling the Mystery of a Town Suspended in Silence by Stephen Kurczy

    The Viking Heart: How Scandinavians Conquered the World by Arthur Herman

    Lifelines: A Doctor’s Journey in the Fight for Public Health by Dr. Leana Wen

    WASPS: The Splendors and Miseries of an American Aristocracy by Michael Knox Beran

    Swan Dive: The Making of a Rogue Ballerina by Georgina Pazcoguin

    Breathing Fire: Female Inmate Firefighters on the Front Lines of California’s Wildfires by Jaime Lowe

    Learning in Public: Lessons for a Racially Divided America from My Daughter’s School by Courtney E. Martin

    Violent Order: Essays on the Nature of Police by David Correia, Tyler Wall

    Weekly Theme: Disney

    Disney’s Land: Walt Disney and the Invention of the Amusement Park that Changed the World by Richard Snow

    The Queens of Animation: The Untold Story of the Women Who Transformed the World of Disney and Made Cinematic History by Nathalia Holt

    Project Future: The Inside Story Behind the Creation of Disney World by Chad Denver Emerson

    Oswald the Lucky Rabbit: The Search for the Lost Disney Cartoons by David A. Bossert, David Gerstein

    Reading Now

    KIM: An Ugly Truth: Inside Facebook’s Battle for Domination by Sheera Frenkel and Cecilia Kang

    ALICE: My Name’s Yours, What’s Alaska by Alaska

    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    Heists! Jul 20, 2021
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    This week Kim and Alice chat about why heists are so much fun to read about, Barack Obama’s summer nonfiction picks, and more upcoming new books.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    Barack Obama’s Summer Reading List [Book Riot]

    Two Iconic American Writers Join Howard to Create a Center to Help Educate the Next Generation of Black Journalists [Howard University]

    Tenure Struggle Ends with Hannah-Jones Charting New Course [Associated Press]

    New Nonfiction

    Easy Crafts for the Insane: A Mostly Funny Memoir of Mental Illness and Making Things by Kelly Williams Brown

    The Passion of Anne Hutchinson: An Extraordinary Woman, the Puritan Patriarchs, and the World They Made and Lost by Marilyn Westerkamp

    Better to Have Gone: Love, Death, and the Quest for Utopia in Auroville by Akash Kapur

    The Brilliant Abyss: Exploring the Majestic Hidden Life of the Deep Ocean and the Looming Threat that Imperils It by Helen Scales

    After Cooling: On Freon, Global Warming, and the Terrible Cost of Comfort by Eric Dean Wilson

    Surviving Mexico: Resistance and Resilience Among Journalists in the Twenty-first Century by Celeste González de Bustamante and Jeannine E. Relly

    Heists!

    Flawless: Inside the Largest Diamond Heist in History by Scott Andrew Selby and Greg Campbell

    The Great Pearl Heist: London’s Greatest Thief and Scotland Yard’s Hunt for the World’s Most Valuable Necklace by Molly Caldwell Crosby

    Diamond Doris: The True Story of the World’s Most Notorious Jewel Thief by Doris Payne (with Zelda Lockhart)

    Vanished Smile: The Mysterious Theft of Mona Lisa by R.A. Scotti

    Reading Now

    Seven Fallen Feathers: Racism, Death, and Hard Truths in a Northern City by Tanya Talaga

    The Arab of the Future: A Childhood in the Middle East (1978-1984) by Riad Sattouf

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    New Nonfiction: Second Half of 2021 Jul 06, 2021
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    This week, Alice and Kim talk about new nonfiction releases for the rest of 2021.

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    Favorites of the Year So Far

    Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir of a Life Interrupted by Suleika Jaouad

    Nowhere Girl: A Memoir of a Fugitive Childhood by Cheryl Diamond

    You’ll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey: Crazy Stories about Racism by Amber Ruffin, Lacey Lamar

    Follow the Flock: How Sheep Shaped Human Civilization by Sally Coulthard

    Anticipated Nonfiction

    Swan Dive: The Making of a Rogue Ballerina by Georgina Pazcoguin

    Horse Girls: Recovering, Aspiring, and Devoted Riders Redefine the Iconic Bond by Halimah Marcus

    Hard Landings: Looking Into the Future for a Child With Autism by Cammie McGovern

    Maiden Voyages: Magnificent Ocean Liners and the Women Who Traveled and Worked Aboard Them by Siân Evans

    Beautiful Country: A Memoir by Qian Julie Wang Chen

    Dirty Work: Essential Jobs and the Hidden Toll of Inequality in America by Eyal Press

    We Are Not Broken by George M. Johnson

    Castaway Mountain: Love and Loss Among the Wastepickers of Mumbai by Saumya Roy

    Personal Effects: What Recovering the Dead Teaches Me About Caring for the Living by Robert A. Jensen

    White Space, Black Hood: Opportunity Hoarding and Segregation in the Age of Inequality by Sheryll Cashin

    She Kills Me: The True Stories of History’s Deadliest Women by Jennifer Wright

    Praying to the West: How Muslims Shaped the Americas by Omar Mouallem

    Shelf Life: Chronicles of a Cairo Bookseller by Nadia Wassef

    Empire of Rubber: Firestone’s Scramble for Land and Power in Liberia by Greg Mitman

    These Precious Days: Essays by Ann Patchett

    This Will All Be Over Soon: A Memoir by Cecily Strong

    Reading Now

    KIM: People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry

    ALICE: Square Haunting by Francesca Wade

    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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