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    For Real

    For Real is a biweekly nonfiction podcast that puts the spotlight on new books and old favorites that tell it like it is, or at least try to.

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    Reading for Self Care Mar 29, 2022
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    This week Alice and Kim chat about their current obsessions (Lincoln and fraudsters, respectively), discuss reading for self care, and preview new nonfiction about strangers, assimilation, serial killers, and more.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    National Book Critics Circle Award Winners Announced [Book Riot]

    Best-Selling Author Brené Brown Promotes Meaningful Change in Trailer for HBO Max’s ‘Atlas of the Heart’ [The Wrap]

    New Nonfiction

    Letter to a Stranger: Essays to the Ones Who Haunt Us by Colleen Kinder

    Dress Code: Unlocking Fashion from the New Look to Millennial Pink by Veronique Hyland

    You Sound Like a White Girl: The Case for Rejecting Assimilation by Julissa Arce

    Hell’s Half-Acre: The Untold Story of the Benders, America’s First Serial Killer Family by Susan Jonusas

    All the White Friends I Couldn’t Keep: Hope – and Hard Pills to Swallow – About Fighting for Black Lives by Andre Henry

    Burning My Roti: Breaking Barriers as a Queer Indian Woman by Sharan Dhaliwal

    Reads for Self Care

    World of Wonders: In Praise of Fireflies, Whale Sharks, and Other Astonishments by Aimee Nezhukumatathil

    Calypso by David Sedaris

    The Lazy Genius Way: Embrace What Matters, Ditch What Doesn’t, and Get Stuff Done by Kendra Adachi

    Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln by Doris Kearns Goodwin

    Reading Now

    The Christie Affair by Nina de Gramont

    The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu

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    Trans Women Authors Mar 15, 2022
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    This week, Alice and Kim talk about trans women authors.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    Netflix Orders White House Mystery Drama ‘The Residence’ From Shondaland, ‘For the People’ Creator [Variety]

    New Nonfiction

    Tell Me Everything: The Story of a Private Investigation by Erika Krouse

    Read Dangerously: The Subversive Power of Literature in Troubled Times by Azar Nafisi

    I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times by Mónica Guzmán

    Lady Icarus: Balloonmania and the Brief, Bold Life of Sophie Blanchard by Deborah Haynes

    Weekly Theme: Books by Trans Women

    Fairest by Meredith Talusan

    How to Fail as a Pop Star: A Play by Vivek Shraya

    To My Trans Sisters by Charlie Craggs

    Tomorrow Will Be Different: Love, Loss, and the Fight for Trans Equality by Sarah McBride

    Reading Now

    KIM: From Hollywood with Love: The Rise and Fall (and Rise Again) of the Romantic Comedy by Scott Meslow

    ALICE: The Lincoln Conspiracy: The Secret Plot to Kill America’s 16th President—and Why It Failed by Brad Meltzer and Josh Mensch


    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    International Women’s Day Revisited Mar 01, 2022
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    This week Alice and Kim revisit one of their favorite topics, International Women’s Day, with stories from women around the world. Plus, new nonfiction about Flat Earthers, abolition, and Greek myths.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    West Africans and the history of smallpox inoculation: Q&A with Elise A. Mitchell [Royal Society]

    4 lessons from the life of global health visionary Paul Farmer [Vox]

    Mountains Beyond Mountains: The Quest of Dr. Paul Farmer, a Man Who Would Cure the World by Tracy Kidder

    Britney Spears set to pen tell-all book in bombshell $15M deal [Page Six]

    New Nonfiction

    Off the Edge: Flat Earthers, Conspiracy Culture, and Why People Will Believe Anything by Kelly Weill

    The Republic of Violence: The Tormented Rise of Abolition in Andrew Jackson’s America by J. D. Dickey

    What My Bones Know: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma by Stephanie Foo

    Pandora’s Jar: Women in the Greek Myths by Natalie Haynes

    International Women’s Day

    Infamous Lady: The True Story of Countess Erzsébet Báthory by Kimberly L. Craft

    It’s Not About the Burqa: Muslim Women on Faith, Feminism, Sexuality and Race, edited by Mariam Khan

    Njinga of Angola: Africa’s Warrior Queen by Linda M. Heywood

    Words Will Break Cement: The Passion of Pussy Riot by Masha Gessen

    To ‘Joy My Freedom: Southern Black Women’s Lives and Labors After the Civil War by Tera W. Hunter

    Reading Now

    White Negroes: When Cornrows Were in Vogue … and Other Thoughts on Cultural Appropriation by Lauren Michele Jackson

    The Story of You: An Enneagram Journey to Becoming Your True Self by Ian Morgan Cron

    The Taking of Jemima Boone: Colonial Settlers, Tribal Nations, and the Kidnap That Shaped America by Matthew Pearl

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    First Ladies Feb 15, 2022
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    This week Alice and Kim talk nonfiction about the first ladies.

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    Follow Up

    And the Band Played On: Politics, People, and the AIDS Epidemic by Randy Shilts

    Nonfiction in the News

    The Inside Story of the Banning of “Maus.” It’s Dumber Than You Think. [Mother Jones]

    How to Fight Books Bans and Challenges [Book Riot]

    How to Use FOIA [Book Riot]

    Claire Foy To Star in ‘An Ugly Truth’ Adaptation [Kirkus Reviews]

    New Nonfiction

    Black American Refugee: Escaping the Narcissism of the American Dream by Tiffanie Drayton

    Woodsqueer: Crafting a Sustainable Rural Life by Gretchen Legler

    The Black Agenda: Bold Solutions for a Broken System by Anna Gifty Opoku-Agyeman

    Messy Roots: A Graphic Memoir of a Wuhanese American by Laura Gao

    Catch the Sparrow: A Search for a Sister and the Truth of Her Murder by Rachel Rear

    Weekly Theme: First Ladies

    First Women: The Grace and Power of America’s Modern First Ladies by Kate Andersen Brower

    Eleanor and Hick: The Love Affair That Shaped a First Lady by Susan Quinn

    Meaning of Michelle: 16 Writers on the Iconic First Lady and How Her Journey Inspires Our Own by Veronica Chambers

    The Adams Women: Abigail and Louisa Adams, Their Sisters and Daughters by Paul C. Nagel

    Reading Now

    KIM: No Cure for Being Human: (And Other Truths I Need to Hear) by Kate Bowler

    ALICE: Letters to a Young Poet by Rilke


    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts and Spotify so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    Books for Black History Month Feb 01, 2022
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    This week, Kim and Alice share reads for Black History Month, plus new nonfiction about cobalt, China, Vikings, and clothing.

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    Nonfiction in the News

    2022 Carnegie Medals [American Library Association]

    A Little Devil in America by Hanif Abdurraqib

    Get a first look at David Sedaris’ new essay collection [Entertainment Weekly]

    Happy-Go-Lucky by David Sedaris

    New Nonfiction

    Kingdom of Characters: The Language Revolution That Made China Modern by Jing Tsu

    Cobalt: Cradle of the Demon Metals, Birth of a Mining Superpower by Charlie Angus

    Worn: A People’s History of Clothing by Sofi Thanhauser

    River Kings: A New History of the Vikings from Scandinavia to the Silk Roads by Cat Jarman

    Architects of an American Landscape: Henry Hobson Richardson, Frederick Law Olmsted, and the Reimagining of America’s Public and Private Spaces by Hugh Howard

    Seven Games: A Human History by Oliver Roeder

    Black History Month Reads

    The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin

    Overground Railroad: The Green Book & Roots of Black Travel in America by Candacy Taylor

    White Negroes: When Cornrows Were in Vogue … and Other Thoughts on Cultural Appropriation by Lauren Michele Jackson

    The Sword and the Shield: The Revolutionary Lives of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. by Peniel E. Joseph

    Reading Now

    The Sentence by Louise Erdrich

    Medicine in the Middle Ages by Juliana Cummings

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    2022 Nonfiction Preview Jan 18, 2022
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    This week Alice and Kim talk about nonfiction highlights for 2022.

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    Nonfiction We’re Looking Forward To, Part I

    Let’s Get Physical: How Women Discovered Exercise and Reshaped the World by Danielle Friedman

    Comedy Comedy Comedy Drama: A Memoir by Bob Odenkirk

    Manifesto: On Never Giving Up by Bernardine Evaristo

    The Urge: Our History of Addiction by Carl Erik Fisher

    South to America: A Journey Below the Mason-Dixon to Understand the Soul of a Nation by Imani Perry

    The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies, and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze by Laura Shin

    There Are No Accidents: The Deadly Rise of Injury and Disaster—Who Profits and Who Pays the Price by Jessie Singer

    Nonfiction We’re Looking Forward To, Part II

    Ancestor Trouble: A Reckoning and a Reconciliation by Maud Newton

    Murder on the Mountain: Crime, Passion, and Punishment in Gilded Age New Jersey by Peter J. Wosh, Patricia L. Schall

    Bittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole by Susan Cain

    Scoundrel: How a Convicted Murderer Persuaded the Women Who Loved Him, the Conservative Establishment, and the Courts to Set Him Free by Sarah Weinman

    Essential Labor: Mothering as Social Change by Angela Garbes

    Reading Now

    KIM: Thinking Inside the Box: Adventures with Crosswords and the Puzzling People Who Can’t Live Without Them by Adrienne Raphel

    ALICE: A Visitor’s Guide to Victorian England by Michelle Higgs

    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    Episode 100!!!! Jan 04, 2022
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    This week Alice and Kim celebrate recording 100 episodes for For Real by chatting about their podcast origin story, reminiscing about the bookish internet of the 2010s, and revisiting some childhood favorites across genres.

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    Episode Links

    Episode 1: International Women’s Day

    Episode 50: 50 Books for 50 Episodes

    Episode 96: Fell in a Hold (AKA True Stories Underground)

    Baking Powder Wars: The Cutthroat Food Fight that Revolutionized Cooking by Linda Civitello

    Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton

    Nancy Drew by Carolyn Keen

    The Boxcar Children by Gertrude Chandler Warner

    The Crocodile on the Sandbank by Elizabeth Peters (Amelia Peabody Series)

    Reading Now

    Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead

    The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu

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    Favorite Nonfiction of 2021 Dec 21, 2021
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    This week Alice and Kim talk about nonfiction highlights of 2021.

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    Favorite Nonfiction of 2021

    KIM: Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman

    Northern Light: Power, Land, and the Memory of Water by Kazim Ali

    Sensational: The Hidden History of America’s “Girl Stunt Reporters” by Kim Todd

    The Ugly Truth: Inside Facebook’s Battle for Domination by Sheera Frankel and Cecilia Kang

    Paradise: One Town’s Struggle to Survive an American Wildfire by Lizzie Johnson

    ALICE: The African Lookbook: A Visual History of 100 Years of African Women by Catherine E. McKinley

    Confident Women: Swindlers, Grifters, and Shapeshifters of the Feminine Persuasion by Tori Telfer

    The Unfit Heiress: The Tragic Life and Scandalous Sterilization of Ann Cooper Hewitt by Audrey Clare Farley

    Punch Me Up to the Gods: A Memoir by Brian Broome

    Notable Native People: 50 Indigenous Leaders, Dreamers, and Changemakers from Past and Present by Adrienne Keene

    Nonfiction We Missed in 2021

    Names for Light: A Family History by Thirii Myo Kyaw Myint

    All That She Carried: The Journey of Ashley’s Sack, a Black Family Keepsake by Tiya Miles

    The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America by Carol Anderson

    Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty by Patrick Radden Keefe

    Heartwarming: How Our Inner Thermostat Made Us Human by Hans Rocha Ijzerman

    A Little Devil in America: Notes in Praise of Black Performance by Hanif Abdurraqib

    Reading Now

    KIM: The Seed Keeper by Diane Wilson

    ALICE: The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu


    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on SOCIAL MEDIA – @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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    Books About Birds Dec 07, 2021
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    This week Kim and Alice explore the vast and interesting world of birds and birding with memoirs and illustrated bird guides. Plus, new collections of essays, historical nonfiction, and more!

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    Follow Up

    Shelf Life: Chronicles of a Cairo Bookseller by Nadia Wassef

    Wave by Sonali Deraniyagala

    Nonfiction in the News

    Barack Obama May Become A 3-Time Winner (But It’s Not What You Think) by David Moye [HuffPost]

    New Nonfiction

    We Are Meant to Rise: Voices for Justice from Minneapolis to the World, edited by Carolyn Holbrook and David Mura

    Dark Tourist: Essays by Hasanthika Sirisena

    Sea State: A Memoir by Tabitha Lasley

    Deliberate Evil: Nathaniel Hawthorne, Daniel Webster, and the 1830 Murder of a Salem Slave Trader by Edward J. Renehan

    Out of Office: The Big Problem and Bigger Promise of Working from Home by Charlie Warzel and Anne Helen Petersen

    Birds!

    What It’s Like to Be a Bird: From Flying to Nesting, Eating to Singing – What Birds Are Doing, and Why by David Allen Sibley

    The Home Place: Memoirs of a Colored Man’s Love Affair with Nature by J. Drew Lanham

    Field Notes from an Unintentional Birder: A Memoir by Julia Zarankin

    H is for Hawk by Helen Macdonald

    Reading Now

    This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life by Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods

    The Ancient Guide to Modern Life by Natalie Haynes

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    Holiday Gift Guide Nov 23, 2021
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    This week Alice and Kim talk about nonfiction picks for holiday gifts.

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    Follow Up

    The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker

    Disability Visibility by Alice Wong

    Nonfiction in the News

    National Book Award Winners Announced

    All That She Carried: The Journey of Ashley’s Sack, a Black Family Keepsake by Tiya Miles

    New Nonfiction

    The Deeper the Roots: A Memoir of Hope and Home by Michael Tubbs

    The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story by Nikole Hannah-Jones

    These Precious Days: Essays by Ann Patchett

    How the Other Half Eats : The Untold Story of Food and Inequality in America by Priya Fielding-Singh

    Holiday Gift Guide

    Hello Alice and Kim, love the podcast. Looking for a rec for a book that I loved so much that I read it twice this year. It’s called Little Heathens and it’s by Mildred Armstrong Kalish and it’s her memoir about growing up in Iowa during the great depression. Each chapter describes some aspect of her life on the farm and I found her life, seasons, and rituals on the farm to be so idyllic and comforting that I would love to read something else like it! Hope you have some ideas! — Tara

    The Heart of Things: A Midwestern Almanac by John Hildebrand

    Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times by Katherine May

    I’d love a book recommendation for myself! I love learning about cults. I’ve read almost every book on Scientology & was wondering if there are books out there like Going Clear but about different cults. – Kirah

    The World in Flames: A Black Boyhood in a White Supremacist Doomsday Cult by Jerald Walker

    The Road to Jonestown: Jim Jones and Peoples Temple by Jeff Guinn

    I’m looking for a recommendation for my father-in-law. He’s a retired scientist who reads regularly, but not voraciously. When he does read he likes to read history, biography, that sort of thing. I’m looking for some suggested authors to give him or some specific books that he’d find interesting or might broaden his perspective a little bit.

    The Boys in the Boat: Nine Americans and Their Epic Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics by Daniel James Brown

    Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II by Daniel James Brown

    The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America’s Great Migration by Isabel WIlkerson

    Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup by John Carreyou

    King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa by Adam Hochschild

    Reading Now

    KIM: Seek You: A Journey Through American Loneliness by Kristen Radtke

    ALICE: Magna Carta by Dan Jones


    CONCLUSION

    You can find us on social media @itsalicetime and @kimthedork. Amazing Audio Editing for this episode was done by Jen Zink. RATE AND REVIEW on Apple Podcasts so people can find us more easily, and follow us there so you can get our new episodes the minute they come out.

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