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    Flipping Junkie Podcast with Danny Johnson

    Flipping Junkie is a podcast for people addicted to flipping houses, wholesaling houses, and real estate investing. Danny started flipping houses in 2003 and has chronicled his journey to help house flippers both new and experienced. Subscribe for weekly episodes featuring interviews with people just getting started as well as big name investors like Brandon Turner of Bigger Pockets and Justin Williams from House Flipping HQ. The podcast covers a range of topics like what is working today to find great deals for flipping, how to properly analyze deals for flipping, renting and owner financing, determining repair costs, finding contractors and managing rehab crews, what improvements to make and how to quickly sell your houses for big profits and so much more. Don’t worry, we won’t leave out the serious mistakes that you need to avoid when get starting and growing your real estate investing business. Join Danny Johnson to get the inside scoop on how to get started and how to stay successful to create true financial freedom for yourself and your family.

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    85: [Taxes] Tax Strategies for Real Estate Investors with Craig Cody Aug 07, 2017
    Show notes

    Craig S. Cody is an ex-NYC cop and certified public accountant of 17 years, he's a certified tax coach and business owner in his own right. Here's a few things he can speak on (one sheet also attached).

    Cody has worked with a lot of businesses through out his life. The best practices he has seen, and the 3 practices that don't tend to be done right, are here. So let's take a look at the 3 Proactive Tax Practices:

    1. Failing to plan.

    People go out and buy a car and spend time researching it, but not looking at the tax codes on it. The average person doesn't plan.

    1. The wrong business entity.

    Are you holding your business in your name? Real Estate is best held in an LLC, but you need to talk to your own attorney to see. If it's in a corporation, there could be tax issues when or if you go to sell.

    1. Find low cost ways to manage your properties with employees.

    This could be as simple as having your kids go to the properties to mow the lawn, or clean. If you're paying them a reasonable amount, they don't have to pay taxes on it. Their pay comes out of your income, which lowers your taxes, and they don't have to pay taxes. It's a win-win!

    Interview Questions

    - What is the biggest mistake real estate investors make regarding taxes?

    Typically, most real estate is held in a LLC. The reason for this is because as a real estate investor you fall under "ordinary income". Basically, it's short-term capital gain. If you've been in for a while, it's just ordinary income

    Some investors treat it all like it's short-term capital gains. The problem with this thinking is the expenses of operating a business are subject to 2% threshold on schedule 8 of your tax return. They're also subject to alternative minimum tax. This is a problem because, if you make too much money, they get added in without you getting the benefit of them.

    If you do it properly, and actually in the business, then you don't deal with those itemized deduction. The lesson is to ALWAYS document what you're doing. This is something where we saved a client almost $80k because they were reporting their income incorrectly. More often than not, you're in a better position by having your real estate investing business as an LLC instead of a corporation.

    -Why not be a part of a C-Corporation?

    A C-Corporation has the first $15k taxed at 15%. Getting that money out when you sell the property is double taxation. It's just not efficient for a real estate investor to be a part of a C-Corporation. I just doesn't help this kind of business.

    However, if you're using a C-Corp to manage your properties, it could work better. The best practice is having multiple LLC.

    Here's a story: There was a client who was a private business, not even an LLC, who was sued for mold injuries. The house was valued at $25k, and the verdict was $155k+ with interest. She had a pretty significant portfolio, and everything was attacked. If you umbrella it under one large LLC, you'd be safer.

    - What are the tax write-offs real estate investors miss?

    As a flipper, you can write off a lot of things since you're being run as a normal business.

    For example, if you have a home gym or a pool, that can be written off as a work rec area. The space you work in at your home is your home office. The gas you spend going to and from properties and locations can be written off as work expenses. Medical bills that are paid out of pocket can be written off as well.

    Let's talk about the home office for a bit, though. Take the space that you use to work in, in square feet, and compare it to the rest of the house. Let's say your home office is 8% of your houses's square footage. That means that 8% all of your utilities can be deducted in your taxes as a work expense: electricity, water, air conditioning, internet, etc. Your real estate taxes can be written off with that 8% as well. As long as there's an office used exclusive to your business, it can be written off. Retirement plans can be worked in as well. If you're working on your own, you can make a self appointed retirement plan. Food and entertainment can also be deducted.

    Just keep track of your expenses. Make sure you're keeping your receipts and keeping track of everything. Do it as you go instead of trying to pull things up at the end of the year.

    -What are the limitations of the arms length transaction and self directed IRA.

    The whole thing can be contributed to the LLC. Which means, the LLC owns that property. You cannot, yourself, do work on that property or it becomes an issue. You can, however, act as a lender in your own LLC. As long as you don't have active involvement in the property, then it won't be an issue.

    Active involvement means that you, yourself, cannot be doing repairs with your hands. If there's something you can pay someone else to do, get them to do it. IF you're working on your own properties, you're jeopardizing your involvement in the IRA. You can lend to other investors, as long as their not family. Tend to stay away from family!

    The interests rates are subject to typical rules, 8 - 10% + a piece of gain, secure by real estate. However, this all depends on the investor. The better the track record, the less you'll have to give and visa versa.

    - What is Cross Segregation?

    Let's use a rental property worth $100k as an example. Typically, you would depreciate that building over 27.5 years. Let's say your depreciate expenses are roughly $4k a year.

    When you do a cross segregation strategy, the building gets broken up into parts. Take the property that would be depreciated over 3 years, 5 years, and so on, and depreciate it faster. Which means, over 27.5 years you're still getting the $100k worth, but in the first few years you would 20% more expense from depreciation because it's accelerating. From a tax perspective, that's money that isn't being taxed. That's the smarter way to go for the best gains in your business.


    84: [Just Ask] Biggest Gold Nugget Aug 04, 2017
    Show notes

    Focus, focus, focus. That's the key to success.

    You don't want to be distracted by your first ideas. You need to stay focused when it comes to growing your business so that you're on top of your game.

    The steps to staying focused isn't that difficult. Here's what we do to stay focused:

    Hunting leads can be difficult to find, we know. Searching on the MLS can be exhausting. The biggest mistake an investor can make is staying in their comfort zone. If you only ever do bandit signs, how are you going to generate consistent deals?

    That was just an example, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with bandit signs. But you need to focus in on at least one method - direct mail, bandit signs, PPC, SEO, online marketing, driving for dollars, etc. - and become an expert at that.

    Send out as much as you can, be active. The more you do, the more you'll learn. Stay hyper focused, gather data, find a way to turn it into a system, become the master at it. Only then should you move on to the next thing. In no time, you'll be an expert at every aspect of real estate investing. At the end of the day, you need to be making progress.

    In these podcast episodes coming up, we're going to be having an open Q & A with you guys. Your questions are important to us. It'll help you learn, but it will also help us to know what it is you're struggling with so that we can make content that's helpful for growing your business.

    Have a burning question to build your business? Just ask! The steps are easy:

    1. Share this podcast so that other investors can ask their questions.
    1. Join the Flip Pilot Group by searching on FaceBook, or going to FlipPilot.com
    1. Tag @DannyJohnson with #JustAsk in your post
    1. Stay tuned for your question to be answered on the podcast!

    There's no such thing as a bad question. Anything that you're curious about, we'll help you through it. Let's stay focused, let's become experts, and let's make progress in building our businesses!


    083: [Scaling] How a Mastermind Changed Everything Aug 02, 2017
    Show notes

    Danny and Melissa share the secret to the massive growth in their flipping business over the last year.

    The story begins several years ago when they were wearing all of the hats in their business. They were killing themselves trying to do it all.

    Danny shares how he met Justin and learned how to scale his business without having to do everything.

    This episode shares the story and shows how you can do the same.


    082: Danny Johnson: [Motivation] Finding Focus Jul 31, 2017
    Show notes

    Jason and Pili have two beautiful children, two awesome bulldogs, one flipping and wholesaling business, a Multifamily Acquisition company, a Beer Company, and are the hosts of the REI Foundation Podcast.

    Having met in New York, Jason and Pili got into real estate investing shortly after hurricane Sandy struck the east coast. Jason's family construction business had to help homeowners lift their houses to meet the new FEMA requirements because of the massive amount of flooding. Before the hurricane, Jason's family business would do maybe 12 lifts a year. After the hurricane, the numbers skyrocketed to nearly 400 in a single year to avoid future flooding.

    Because of his background with houses and construction, Jason and Pili made the choice to move into real estate investing! When they were expecting their first child, Jason's dad asked if he and Pili would be interested in becoming real estate agents to work in their investing business. When a lot of businesses were getting overwhelmed in the east coast, Jason and Pili found a great opportunity and took it.


    081: Danny Johnson: Tax Liens - Investing in Tax Liens and Tax Deeds Jul 07, 2017
    Show notes

    Ted Thomas, best-selling author and publisher is best known as America's Tax Lien Certificate and Tax Deed Authority. Thomas has sat for more than 200 radio and TV interviews, most recently on ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox and he has been recognized in Newsweek, USA Today and the Wall Street Journal. Ted Thomas is the go-to guy when people want to discover how to invest in secure government certificates that pay 16% and 18%.

    Ted's best selling Home Study Course titled, Quick Start to Buying Government Tax Lien Certificates & Tax Deeds, is considered the benchmark standard for the Tax Lien Certificate and Tax Deed industry. Thomas also conducts live tours of Tax Lien Certificate and Tax Deed auctions.

    Houses with tax liens are a safe, secure investment because you won't run the risk of losing large sums of money.

    Ted's number one suggestions is this: Start out buying vacant residential land. Most mentors won't suggest this, but Ted does for this reason. He wants to make sure his students are staying conservative in their investments. Buying land is a low risk investment, and sell for 10 - 20 cent on the dollar. If you sell it for 50 cent to buyers then you've made a profit! Ted's suggestion is to go slow, stay conservative, and watch your income build.

    There will never be a shortage of properties. There are 100 million properties in the United States alone, and 2 - 3% of that will go into tax lien territory. Ted's point is that there's no reason to try and rush your business. Let it grow steadily. You'll always have properties to buy and sell.

    Ted answers these common questions:

    Q: What is a tax deed auction?

    A: A Public auction where real estate is sold on property that is delinquent in taxes. A deed sale happens after a tax certificate applies to the tax collector for a tax deed after the certificate has been held for the statutory period.

    Q: What is a tax lien certification?

    A: Tax lien certificates pay you guaranteed fixed rates of return interest per year.

    Q: Which states are tax deed states?

    A: Tax Deed States:

    • Alaska
    • Arkansas
    • California
    • Connecticut
    • Delaware
    • Florida
    • Georgia
    • Hawaii
    • Idaho
    • Kansas
    • Maine
    • Michigan
    • Missouri
    • Nevada
    • New Hampshire
    • New Mexico
    • New York
    • North Carolina
    • North Dakota
    • Ohio
    • Oklahoma
    • Oregon
    • Pennsylvania
    • Rhode Island
    • South Dakota
    • Tennessee
    • Texas
    • Utah
    • Virginia
    • Washington
    • Wisconsin

    Q: Which states are tax lien certificate states?

    A: Tax Lien Certificate States-

    • Alabama
    • Arizona
    • Colorado
    • Florida
    • Illinois
    • Iowa
    • Indiana
    • Kentucky
    • Louisiana
    • Maryland
    • Massachusetts
    • Mississippi
    • Montana
    • Nebraska
    • New Jersey
    • New York
    • Ohio
    • South Carolina
    • Vermont
    • Washington DC
    • West Virginia
    • Wyoming

    80: [Wholesaling] How Cody Made $500k Wholesaling His First Year Jun 26, 2017
    Show notes

    Just a few years ago, Cody was selling insurance and didn't know much about Real Estate. He heard about a little niche known as "Wholesaling" and got interested. He quickly decided to go "All in" on Wholesaling and generated over $500,000 in his first year and has since created a 7 figure Wholesaling business.

    After going to a seminar in Utah, Cody jumped in to wholesaling. He took on what advice he was given and found a mentor. In 2015, Cody started listening to every real estate investing podcast he could find and that was it. He found a mentor and got in to wholesaling as fast as he could!

    Wholesaling appealed to Cody because it was a great start. "I started with the end in mind," he says. "You've got to build a cash buyers list. If you don't have an end game in mind, it doesn't matter because you can't do anything with it."

    Building cash buyers is simple. There are a few ways to find them:

    1 - Go to REIA meetings in your local town.

    2 - Get on the phone on Craigslist. Call land lords or people trying to sell their rentals, they're always interested in listening to what a wholesaler has to say. You want to look at a vacant landlord. See if those landlords are willing to sell. If they are, great! If they're not, then try to see if they're interested in becoming a cash buyer. Take notes from them on where they would prefer their properties to be, and boom. You just got another buyer to add to your list!

    3 - Get with a realtor and have them run all of the cash deals that have been done in a certain market. From that list, look for the address and names of the buyer on the title and add them to your direct mail list. By doing this, you can see what they're willing to buy for, and how active they are in purchasing for cash.

    The bigger the buyers list, the better. 600 or more is preferable for such a large market like Salt Lake City. If you can get 20 people to inspect a home at the same time, you've just build up a feeding frenzy. Making scarcity and providing competition drives up your properties prices, which makes your profit even better. You want people to pay top dollar for your deals.

    Because Cody markets the contract and not the property, he sends out a suggested price for the house in the promotional material material. That way, you can use that as a negotiation point to drive your profit.

    Cody does anywhere from 7 - 10 deals a month, and every time there are always multiple buyers interested. Even though the market has been competitive, Cody is still bringing in a great flow of business!

    A question Cody gets asked a lot is "Why don't you just keep the properties to fix and flip?" The answer is simple:

    If Cody can focus on one thing really well, and continue to do it really well, then why not keep doing that? With house flippers, you have to focus on so many things. You have to deal with contractors, title companies, realtors, all of that. When you're wholesaling, you don't have to. "I'm in and out quick," Cody said.

    When it comes to marketing, it's about 3 things.

    The right thing, to the right person, at the right time.

    In his first year, Cody had a budget of $1200 for marketing with direct mail. He was told to get uncomfortable because that's where the profit comes from. At day 44 in his mentoring program, his first deal landed him $24,000.

    That covered the course, the marketing, and still had a lot left over. So now, Cody puts aside 50% of his profit toward marketing so that he can continue to grow his business.

    Over all, marketing is expensive. It needs to be. But you have to hit a lot of people or else you won't hear back. $1200 is a great starting point, but you need to keep your marketing budget up to make sure you're marketing the right way.


    79: [Rentals] Crowdfunding and Wholesaling with Rob LaRovere Jun 12, 2017
    Show notes

    Rob leads property acquisitions for Holdfolio, a real estate crowdfunding company headquartered in Indianapolis. Under the name Buy To Renew, Rob leads a team focused on purchasing properties and gentrifying neighborhoods. Since relocating to Indiana in 2015, Rob and his partners have purchased over 100 properties for crowdfunding and wholesale opportunities. For fun, Rob and his wife enjoy traveling, soccer, and recently took up competing in triathlons.

    Books

    Set For Life by Scott Trench

    Relentless by Tim Grover


    78: [Rehabbing] Jason and Peter Interview May 29, 2017
    Show notes

    Jason has been in construction over 25 years. He started out of highschool working with his dad on misc projects and went on to own and operate a cabinet company for 12 years. After closing the company he started lending to rehabbers for Gap funding and learning about this thing called flipping and started flipping in 2010. Jason has been flipping ever since and joined up with Peter in 2014 and have flipped or wholesaled 50 + deals together.

    Jason is married with a split family of 4 kids. All who are very active in sports, Competitive Dance, Swimming, Gymnastics, and basketball and football. They just moved into their new home they had built a couple weeks ago.

    Jason and his wife Megan who is a Vancouver school Principal enjoy traveling together, are very active in Crossfit at their local Box.

    Share your backgrounds and how you started flipping houses and working together.

    Been in construction since 1993 owned a cabinet shop for 12 years build a few houses, Started in 2009 lending gap funding to a rehabber. Started doing all the work on flips in 2010-13 flipping about 15 in that time, Peter's roofing company did all my roofs and we became friends during that time. We partnered on our first deal July 1st 2014 closed 3 deals that year together 2015 we did 11 deals, 2016 completed 22 deals wholesaled 10 and started a wholesale business we are partners on.

    What are your goals for 2017?

    Goals are 50 flips we have 25 on the books so far this year Plan is to wholesale 50 also min

    Sold 12

    Pending 5

    Rehabs 4

    Closing within 2 weeks 4

    What are your favorite and/or most profitable types of houses to rehab where you are?

    We love 2/1 800sqft houses we are in an out within 3-4 weeks

    What do you do to prepare to start rehabbing before you close on the purchase?

    We make sure we are ready to start the rehab the min we record we have a crew there to start and usually have house demod within a few hours.

    Walk us through your rehabbing process from determining scope of work to lining up contractors to getting it ready for sale.

    My business partner is my GC so he keeps our numbers in line.

    What issues have you encountered when trying to sell rehabs?

    Squatters homeless

    Appraisal issues

    Portland is a really hot market so our product sells within 2 weeks max most within the 1st weekend

    How can anyone from the audience get in contact with either of you?

    Nwpropertyinvestmentswholesale.com

    Nwpropertyinvestmentsllc.com


    77: [Rehabbing] Selling Your Finished Rehab with Melissa Johnson May 22, 2017
    Show notes

    What are some of the things you do before putting the finished product on the market?

    • Re-run comps
    • Final walk through
    • Staging - where get staging stuff from

    How to work with our Realtor Laura to get the property on the market?

    • Docusign docs
    • Take pics and upload - what kind of camera and lens?
    • Agent sets up showing and feedback notifications

    With the real estate market still going strong here, how fast have the houses been selling?

    • The fastest closing was up on the market on Thursday night, by Sunday it had 42 showings and 13 offers.
    • Not every property is like this. The sweet spot is between $140 - $165 for San Antonio properties that fly off the market.

    How do you handle when we get multiple offers?

    • Use spreadsheets with all of the details of the properties, locations, contracts, and people offering.
    • Separate each thing that's a negotiation point for when you come to the contract phase.

    I know we've accepted offers before in the past only to find out the buyers couldn't qualify. How do we now avoid this problem?

    • Look for how someone is paying for the house. Melissa prefers cash for the house. Conventional financing is ok, and FHA would be the last one to look for only because FHA tends to have more hoops to jump through.
    • Ask for a proof of funds if the buyer is paying cash.
    • Who's the lender? Melissa has a "black list" of lenders that are a no-go for the final sale.
    • Look for a lender letter attached to the contract.

    So a common situation is where a buyer will get an inspection and ask for tons of repairs. What is our procedure for handling which repairs we'll agree to do and which we won't?

    • Anything electrical (especially in the attic) should be taken care of before buyers even get an inspection.
    • Having a good agent will help the buyers not to be worried if you have an inspector that's freaking them out by nit picking.
    • Always double check your punch list!

    On FlippingJunkie we get the question all the time about the FHA 90 day rule. What is that and how do we deal with it?

    • "Payment terms need to be conventional or cash".
    • Between 90 - 180 days you will need 2 appraisals, or if the resale price is over %100 of the purchase price.

    What do you do after acceptance of an offer to make sure all is on track to close?

    • Start doing property updates with your title company twice a week.
    • Set up a schedule for the updates so that everyone is on the same track and staying focused.
    • Property updates every Monday from our realtor to the lenders to make sure everything is still on track to close.

    What's your top tip for being more efficient in this part of the house flip process?

    • Add a special touch when you're selling a home to a buyer. Melissa puts little gift baskets for the new buyers to have.
    • Always work with your realtor and title companies to make sure things are moving smoothly.

    76: [Rehabbing] Running Rehabs with Melissa Johnson May 04, 2017
    Show notes

    Melissa Johnson has been flipping houses for 14 years, and man have they come a long way.

    From brown (and one time green) carpet to sleek new tile, Melissa has been transforming the way she rehabs properties. But before you can make the houses look nicer, you have to have your team together.

    Start with a contractor you can trust. Melissa has been working with her contractor for a long time now, to the point where they have an amazing working relationship. One of the key point of making sure you and your contractor are on the same page is to set the ground rules from the beginning.

    Making sure you and your contractor have the same payment schedule agreed on will keep everyone involved happy. Melissa talks about going through the property with the contractors before hand and looking at every single detail of the house. That way, everyone is on the same page for what needs to be fixed.

    There's much more to your team than just you and the contractor, though. Melissa has been working with a realtor she trusts, and has become great friends with. It's so important to work with people who are great at their jobs, and who are there for you.

    For example, there was an issue with some buyers not being able to qualify for the property they wanted to buy and, instead of just closing out the deal, Melissa's realtor fought and negotiated until all parties were happy. Having a realtor who will work with you, and also your buyers, is great for having your properties sold quickly.

    All in all, Melissa has been working hard at showing what an amazing Flip Pilot she is. If you want to network with other Flip Pilots, join our closed FaceBook group by going to FlipPilot.com here: https://flippilot.com/beta-notify


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