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Fire Talk With Me — TV & Film
Fire Talk With Me

An in-depth, episode by episode look at the cult classic TV series Twin Peaks. Join co-hosts Jeremy Smith and Allie Goertz as he walks her through the twists and turns of David Lynch’s serial drama for her first time in this ESN.fm Limited Edition Series.

Latest Episodes:

17: Arbitrary Law (Emily V. Gordon) Nov 18, 2014
Show notes

Emily V. Gordon is a producer (The Meltdown with Jonah and Kumail), podcaster, and a former family therapist, which makes her a damn fine guest at this point in the show. She joins Allison and Jeremy to discuss one of the more satisfying episodes in a while (along with the big reveal episode).
In this podcast, the gang discusses Episode 16 (17 including The Pilot, or S02E09).
Show Notes and Links
Emily V. Gordon (twitter, The Indoor Kids, The Meltdown with Jonah and Kumail) is one of the best podcasters on the planet. Ask anyone with taste who rates podcasters.
Speaking of, The Indoor Kids (twitter) is one of the best video game podcasts out there, owing to Emily and her handsome husband Kumail Nanjiani keeping things both fun and funny. Before you think Kumail is just some pretty face, he has a brain too, guys.
17: Arbitrary Law (Emily V. Gordon)

16: Drive With a Dead Girl (Jay Bushman) Nov 11, 2014
Show notes

Jay Bushman is a writer, producer, director, and a true student of television as it bleeds into the transmedia age. He joins Allison and Jeremy to discuss the troubling "backgrounding" of Cooper, feeling the filler, and the uphill struggle after the reveal of who killed Laura Palmer.
Save us, Shirtless Cooper.
In this podcast, the gang discusses Episode 15 (16 including The Pilot, or S02E08).
Show Notes and Links
Jay Bushman (twitter, website, IMDb) embraces transmedia. Embrace him, please.
Jay's Tumblr post noting what happened in the Missing Piece of this episode.
Have you watched The Lizzie Bennet Diaries? Wait, what? Seriously? Oh, come on, what are you doing that's more important watching Too Many Cooks for the 18th time? It's awesome. You dug through Laura Palmer's, so go dig around in Lizzie Bennet's Diary.
24 years ago, on 10 November 1990, we found out who killed Laura Palmer. This podcast found out last week.
We have an "announcer" now. We hope you like him.
16: Drive With a Dead Girl (Jay Bushman)

15: Lonely Souls (BenDavid Grabinski) Nov 04, 2014
Show notes

BenDavid Grabinski is a writer, director, and one of the best people you can discuss the Fast and the Furious franchise with, bar none. He joins Allison and Jeremy to discuss the biggest reveal of the show thus far. A "Special Guest Star" from Twin Peaks makes a cameo, so stick with us to the very end of this week's show.
In this podcast, the gang discusses Episode 14 (15 including The Pilot, or S02E07).
Show Notes and Links
BenDavid is on Twitter.
15: Lonely Souls (BenDavid Grabinski)

Special 2: Writing of a Mystery (Josh Weinstein) Oct 30, 2014
Show notes

Josh Weinstein was a writer on The Simpsons during what many consider the show's Golden Age. He joins Allie and Jeremy to discuss Twin Peaks as well as how it influenced Simpsons classic cliffhanger "Who Shot Mr. Burns?"
If you are a fan of The Simpsons at all (not even necessarily a die-hard), this episode might make your brain explode in joy.
WARNING: Contains spoilers for "Who Shot Mr. Burns?", including the name of the shooter.
A couple of recording breaks can be heard in the recording due to noise interrupting our intrepid trio, but thankfully, zero content was lost.
Show Notes and Links
Josh Weinstein (twitter) is currently working on Strange Hill High (seasons 1 & 2 now on Netflix in the States) and Gravity Falls, both of which are great.
Yes, Gravity Falls is made to be kid-friendly, but the writing and world they've built is better than 90% of TV made for adults. Full episodes are posted on the official site.
Who Shot Mr. Burns? was comprised of the season 6 finale episode of The Simpsons and the season 7 premiere.
SCTV got everything right down to the smallest details. At used prices, the DVDs are a steal, and essential in the library of anyone who really loves and appreciates comedy writing.
Special 2: Writing of a Mystery (Josh Weinstein)

14: Demons (Russ Fischer) Oct 29, 2014
Show notes

Russ Fischer writes for Slashfilm, and has known Jeremy since "The CHUD Days." He joins Allison and Jeremy to discuss the good notes of Twin Peaks season 2, being on the fence about the 2016 return of Twin Peaks, and the out-of-print and hard-to-find Autobiography of Dale Cooper.
In this podcast, the gang discusses Episode 13 (14 including The Pilot, or S02E06).
Program Note:
The beginning of the second segment of the show (after the introduction of Russ) sounds abrupt: as if the result of an error in editing. It is abrupt, but not the result of anything other than tech issues outside our control eating a few minutes of audio. Those minutes are sadly lost, never to be heard again. Allison and Jeremy picked the discussion up in a way that still makes sense, but that sounds odd based on previous episodes.
In retropsect, this whole show should have been recorded on good old reel-to-reel tape.
Show Notes and Links
Better known: The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer. Less-well-known and 10x as expensive out-of-print on Amazon: The Autobiography of FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper - My Life, My Tapes.
14: Demons (Russ Fischer)

13: The Orchid's Curse (Jensen Karp) Oct 22, 2014
Show notes

Jensen Karp is a podcaster and the proprietor of Gallery 1988 in Los Angeles. He joins Allison and Jeremy to discuss how LOST (and other shows) fell apart, the 2016 return of Twin Peaks, and the unpredictability of what would've been a 90's "season 3".
In this podcast, the gang discusses Episode 12 (13 including The Pilot, or S02E05).
Show Notes and Links
Jensen Karp (twitter, tumblr) runs Gallery 1988 (twitter, tumblr) and hosts the podcast Get Up On This.
Recipe for the Black Yukon Sucker Punch.
13: The Orchid's Curse

12: Laura's Diary (Ben Blacker) Oct 14, 2014
Show notes

Ben Blacker is a writer who created both the Nerdist Writers Panel and (co-created) The Thrilling Adventure Hour. He joins Allison and Jeremy to discuss how ahead of its time the show was and how dated Twin Peaks feels in retrospect.
The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer remains a point of contention as the group discusses Episode 11 (12 including The Pilot, or S02E04).
Show Notes and Links
Ben Blacker (twitter) does so much that he must travel through time and space to get his work done, from Nerdist Writers Panel and The Thrilling Adventure Hour to writing piles of comics (like Thunderbolts for Marvel) and TV series (like Supernatural).
Todd Holland directed The Wizard, which stars Fred Savage and Jenny Lewis (and which turns 25 this year!). He co-created Wonderfalls and directed loads of other TV in addition to this episode of Twin Peaks.
Todd Holland also directed S02E13.
Jerry Stahl's memoir, Permanent Midnight, is a compelling read on its own. The movie starring Ben Stiller was a great early opportunity to see Stiller do something other than full-on comedy.
Ben mentions that Manhattan creator and writer Sam Shaw was on his latest Nerdist Writers Panel podcast. If you aren't watching WGN's Manhattan yet, you are missing out in a big, big way.
The Thrilling Adventure Hour does regular live shows at Largo at the Coronet in L.A., as well as on the road. Be a real Adventureketeer and join them live sometime. Be advised: all these shows tend to sell out way in advance.
12: The Orchid's Curse (Ben Blacker)

11: The Man Behind Glass (Joseph Scrimshaw) Oct 07, 2014
Show notes

Joseph Scrimshaw is a comedian, podcaster, and was an obsessive as-it-originally-aired Twin Peaks watcher in his teens. He had a Twin Peaks dream. No, really.
Joseph, Allie, and Jeremy delve into a terrific "Albert episode" in episode 10 (11 including the pilot) of Twin Peaks (S02E03).
Show Notes and Links
Joseph Scrimshaw is on Twitter, and you can find all things Joseph on his website.
PLEASE NOTE: The majority of this episode was recorded before the announcement of a brand-new, 9-episode Twin Peaks series in 2016, we have marked this historic occasion in our own way, making creative use of our tape recorders.
Joseph's Obsessed podcast is on his website, but we'll save you a click. A click saved more is this direct path to the April 2014 episode that features Fire Talk With Me's very own Allie Goertz.
Here's the trailer for Alan Parker's Shoot the Moon, philistines. As a bonus: Karyn Kusama discussing it for Trailers From Hell.
Nightmare Watch: Allie has had "at least" four nightmares since watching the previous episode.
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10: Coma (Aaron Ginsburg) Sep 30, 2014
Show notes

Aaron Ginsburg (writer/producer of The 100, director of The Thrilling Adventure Hour) is one of the great pizza chefs of Los Angeles. He joins Jeremy and Allison to discuss visions of terror, sabotage, the troubling nature of Cheers, potential surreality, and how things begin to shift starting with Twin Peaks Episode 9 (10 including The Pilot, or S02E02).
Show Notes and Links
The 100 is on The CW.
The Good Guys was a really, really good show, and should have ran for 20 years.
Clone is one of the best comics that Image Comics (or anyone, for that matter) is publishing (ComiXology, first volume TPB). Aaron joined the book starting at the beginning of the second arc in #6. A guy finds out an army of clones of him exists. Things happen. It's great.
A great Comic Book Resources interview with Ginsburg, Wade McIntyre, and David Schulner that took place as the second arc (Ginsburg's start on the series) began.
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9: May the Giant Be with You (Scott Aukerman) Sep 23, 2014
Show notes

Scott Aukerman is the man behind great TV and web shows including Comedy Bang! Bang! and Between Two Ferns, as well as a bunch of great podcasts at Earwolf. He's also a huge Twin Peaks fan. He joins Jeremy and Allison to dig into the second season premiere, Episode 8 (9 including The Pilot).
Show Notes and Links
Comedy Bang! Bang! is a TV show. It's also a podcast that "Womp[s] it up" at least once a year.
Earwolf is a collection of great podcasts.
Scott also cofounded Midroll, which sells their ads as well as many other shows, including Marc Maron's WTF and Doug Benson's Doug Loves Movies.
The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer (written by Jennifer Lynch) came out after the end of season 1 and before season 2 premiered. You don't have to have read it to get into season 2, but it certainly might enrich your experience. Scott thinks it's best to hold off until after you're done watching the show.
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