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    fiction/non/fiction

    Hosted by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan, fiction/non/fiction interprets current events through the lens of literature, and features conversations with writers of all stripes, from novelists and poets to journalists and essayists.

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    S5 Ep. 2: The Country Roads Ahead: Julia Elliott and DaMaris B. Hill Consider the Future of Rural Writing Oct 21, 2021
    Show notes

    Novelist Julia Elliott and poet and writer DaMaris B. Hill join hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to consider the writing and face of rural America—particularly as it might look 30 years from now. First, Elliott talks about growing up as an outsider in her own South Carolina hometown, and reads from her debut novel The New and Improved Romie Flutch. Then, Hill, who was born in West Virginia, speaks to the diversity of rural spaces and reads a historical poem, “Beloved Weirdo,” from her forthcoming poetry collection Breath Better Spent: Living Black Girlhood. Hill also speaks about judging the Maya Angelou Book Award.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Hayden Baker and Anne Kniggendorf.

    Selected readings:

    DaMaris B. Hill

    • A Bound Woman Is a Dangerous Thing: The Incarceration of African American Women from Harriet Tubman to Sandra Bland
    • The Fluid Boundaries of Suffrage and Jim Crow: Staking Claims in the American Heartland
    • Breath Better Spent

    Julia Elliott

    • The New and Improved Romie Futch
    • The Wilds

    Others:

    • Toni Morrison
    • Gail Jones
    • Octavia Butler
    • Crystal Wilkinson
    • Nikki Finney
    • Denise Low
    • The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead
    • Gwendolyn Brooks
    • Frank O’Hara
    • Lucille Clifton
    • Angela Davis
    • “Talking to Maya Angelou’s Son About the New Award Named in Her Honor” by Anne Kniggendorf
    • Kontemporary Amerikan Poetry by John Murillo
    • Pilgrim Bell by Kaveh Akbar
    • Postcolonial Love Poem by Natalie Diaz
    • Sometimes I Never Suffered by Shane McCrae
    • The Wild Fox of Yemen by Threa Almontaser
    • Our Lies: Jenny Offill and James Plath on Conspiracy Theories in History and Literature (Season 4, Episode 8 of Fiction/Non/Fiction)
    • Airships by Barry Hannah
    • Geronimo Rex by Barry Hannah
    • Westworld
    • Paul West
    • “The New and Improved Romie Futch” New York Times review by Lincoln Michel
    • Carson McCullers
    • George Saunders
    • Winter’s Bone by Daniel Woodrell
    • Leonora Carrington
    • Meat Racket by Christopher Leonard
    • Hunter S. Thompson
    • David Cronenburg
    • Black Boy by Richard Wright
    • Langston Hughes
    • Alice Walker
    • Latino Writers Collective - Home
    • Frank X Walker - Affrilachian Poet, Educator, Author of Black Box, Buffalo Dance: the Journey of York, and Affrilachia

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    S5 Ep. 1: WTF, Texas … Again?: Elizabeth Wetmore and Kathryn Nuernberger on SB8, the History of Abortion, and Roe v. Wade in Danger Oct 07, 2021
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    Novelist Elizabeth Wetmore and essayist and poet Kathryn Nuernberger join hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss Texas’s new abortion law. As the Lone Star State’s SB8 invites anyone to sue those “abetting” an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, Roe v. Wade has never seemed more at risk. In this episode, Wetmore talks about the Southwest’s history of suppressing women’s rights to birth control and reads from her novel, Valentine, which takes place in Texas and depicts a cast of women struggling to navigate the aftermath of sexual violence and access to abortion in 1976. Then, Nuernberger reads from her essay collection, The Witch of Eye, and her poetry collection, RUE; she discusses midwives, witch trials, herbalism, torture, and how these subjects help us interpret the history of women’s reproductive rights.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.

    Selected readings:

    Elizabeth Wetmore

    • Valentine
    • "Women and Horses (1976)"

    Kathryn Nuernberger

    • The Witch of Eye
    • RUE
    • Brief Interviews with the Romantic Past
    • The End of Pink
    • Rag & Bone

    Others:

    • SB8
    • “Abortion on the border: Legislation in Texas and criminalization in Chihuahua” by Veronica Martinez (La Verdad) and Victoria Rossi (El Paso Matters)
    • "Abortion on the border: Activists stay resilient" by Veronica Martinez (La Verdad) and Victoria Rossi (El Paso Matters)
    • “What It's Like to Run a Planned Parenthood in Texas” by Olga Khazan (The Atlantic, 2016)
    • “Why I Violated Texas's Extreme Abortion Ban” by Alan Braid (The Washington Post)
    • Interventions for Women by Angela Hume
    • Eve's Herbs by John M. Riddle
    • The Book of Difficult Fruit by Kate Lebo
    • Regarding the Pain of Others by Susan Sontag
    • WTF, Texas? Lacy M. Johnson and Natalia Sylvester on Surviving the Recent Storm and Unraveling the Whitewashed Myth of Texas (Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 12)

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    S4 Ep. 26: Bullshit Saviors: Helen Benedict and Nadia Hashimi on Depictions of the American Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq Sep 23, 2021
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    Novelists Nadia Hashimi and Helen Benedict join hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the mistakes American writers and culture made in depicting the United States’ wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.In the wake of the 20th anniversary of 9/11 and President Biden’s decision to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, have American fiction and film truly confronted the cost of these wars, especially to civilians overseas? In this episode, Benedict discusses the persistent and problematic glamorization of conflict, and reads from her 2017 novel, Wolf Season, which is about the Iraq War and its aftermath. Then, Hashimi speaks about centering Afghan voices in her fiction and reads from her novel Sparks Like Stars, which begins in 1978 Kabul during the Saur Revolution.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel, Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and our website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.

    Selected readings:

    Nadia Hashimi

    • Sparks Like Stars
    • The Pearl that Broke Its Shell


    Helen Benedict

    • Wolf Season
    • Sand Queen
    • Lonely Soldier
    • “The Best Contemporary Iraqi Writing about War” (LitHub)

    Others:

    • The Storytellers of Empire, By Kamila Shamsie – Guernica
    • Unbecoming by Anuradha Bhagwati
    • “A Former Marine Looks Back on Her Life in a Male-Dominated Military” by V.V. Ganeshananthan (New York Times)
    • Elliot Ackerman and Anuradha Bhagwati on the Role of the Military in American Politics, Fiction/Non/Fiction, season two, episode 21
    • Charlie Wilson’s War
    • Afghan Women are In Charge of Their Own Fate by Cheryl Benard
    • “The Other Afghan Women” by Anand Gopal (New Yorker)
    • “What Should a War Movie Do?” by Whitney Terrell (The New Republic)
    • The Hurt Locker directed by Kathryn Bigelow
    • Generation Kill by Evan Wright
    • Karate Kid
    • Matt Gallagher
    • Teen Wolf
    • Casualties of War directed by Brian De Palma
    • The Messenger
    • Frankenstein in Baghdad by Ahmed Saadawi
    • Goodbye to All That by Robert Graves and Miranda Seymour
    • Corpse Exhibition by Hassan Blasim
    • The Taliban indoctrinates kids with jihadist textbooks paid for by the U.S. Washington Post, 2014
    • Sylvester Stallone in First Blood (1982)
    • Katey Schultz
    • Jesse Goolsby
    • Cara Hoffman

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    S4 Ep. 25: Tolstoy Forever: Brigid Hughes and Yiyun Li on Retweeting a Russian Classic Sep 09, 2021
    Show notes

    Editor and publisher Brigid Hughes and writer Yiyun Li join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about reading War and Peace over the course of 85 days with others around the world. The unusually broad and lively Twitter conversation, organized in 2020 by A Public Space and led by Li, is captured in the newly published volume Tolstoy Together. In this episode, Li discusses her love of Russian novels and describes what it was like reading War and Peace in sections at the ends of newspapers when she was growing up in Beijing. Hughes, who read the book for the first time during this project, explains how the community of readers who contributed to the online book club made the experience special.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.

    Selected readings:

    Yiyun Li

    • Tolstoy Together
    • Must I Go?
    • Where Reasons End
    • Dear Friend, from My Life I Write to You in Your Life
    • Gold Boy, Emerald Girl
    • A Thousand Years of Good Prayers
    • Kinder Than Solitude
    • The Vagrants

    Brigid Hughes

    • A Public Space

    Others:

    • The Translation Wars (The New Yorker)
    • Her Private Space: On Brigid Hughes, Editor (LitHub)
    • Everything You’ve Ever Wanted to Know About Lit Mags (and Likely More) (FnF episode)
    • #APStogether : Events
    • Infinite Happiness (originally published in A Public Space, by Jamel Brinkley)
    • Cattle Haul (by Jesmyn Ward)
    • War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy, trans. Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky
    • The Raid and Other Stories by Leo Tolstoy
    • Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy, trans. Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky
    • Matt Gallagher
    • Dewaine Farria
    • Alexandra Schwartz
    • ZZ Packer

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    S4 Ep. 24: Obama Era Redux: Nawaaz Ahmed on Islam, Sexuality, Politics, and Publishing His First Novel Aug 26, 2021
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    Writer Nawaaz Ahmed joins co-host V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his debut novel, Radiant Fugitives, in this special live episode of the show held with Elliott Bay Books in Seattle, Washington. Ahmed’s book, set in California against the backdrop of Obama-era politics, explores how differences in faith and sexuality affect an Indian Muslim family when two estranged sisters—one a doctor more religiously observant than their parents, the other a political organizer who is lapsed, queer, recently divorced, and newly pregnant—reunite to support their ill mother. Ahmed also discusses his career shift from computer science to fiction, his decision to identify as a gay writer, and how these changes have strengthened his position as an activist.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Anne Kniggendorf.

    Selected readings:

    Nawaaz Ahmed

    • Radiant Fugitives


    Others:

    • The Quran
    • Barack Obama Speeches
    • “Endymion” by John Keats, Complete Poems
    • “Yes We Can”
    • Trikone

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    S4 Ep. 23: From the Mouths of Babes: Wayne Miller and Elizabeth Gaffney on Writing About Children in Uncertain Times Aug 12, 2021
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    Poet Wayne Miller and novelist Elizabeth Gaffney join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss writing from the point of view of children before and during the pandemic. First, Miller discusses the unknowable interior lives of children, reads poems from his new collection We the Jury, and talks about connections to his essay “Learning to Write About Your Own Children.” Later, Gaffney reads an excerpt from her 2014 novel When the World Was Young, and discusses how the traumas her child narrator survives during WWII compare to the challenges children have faced during COVID-19.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This episode is produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Whitney Terrell.

    Selected readings:


    Wayne Miller

    • We The Jury
    • Learning to Write About Your Own Children, LitHub
    • When Talking About Poetry Online Goes Very Wrong, LitHub


    Elizabeth Gaffney

    • When the World Was Young
    • Metropolis
    • The 24-Hour Room

    Others:

    • Catcher in the Rye
    • Family Ties
    • The Branch Will Not Break by James Wright
    • Kindred by Octavia Butler

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    Fiction/Non/Fiction Presents Wondery's True Love Aug 08, 2021
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    While you wait for the next episoe of Fiction/Non/Fiction, we wanted to share a preview of a new podcast from our friends over at Wondery.

    Looking for a new podcast that's like Olivia Pope meets your favorite Ryan Murphy show? Or do you just love a good scandal? On True Love, a new fiction podcast from Wondery, you'll hear stories of scandalous flings, secret affairs, and the drama that ensues. TRUE LOVE brings these relationships to life through reimagined stories about love, lust and heartbreak. From secret celebrity hookups that play out under the cover of night to the web of lies it took to protect a high profile politician from revealing his secret life, each character finds themselves mixed up in every form of drama imaginable. This is just a preview of True Love, but you can listen to full episodes at wondery.fm/TL_FictionNonFiction.

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    S4 Ep. 22: Why Be A Critic? Laura Miller on Reading, Listening to, and Writing About Books Jul 29, 2021
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    Acclaimed Slate books and culture columnist Laura Miller joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the ins and outs of being a critic. Miller discusses a recent piece about diversity and representation in audiobook narration. She also talks about reading for pleasure versus work, and why, when she’s not reviewing, she often finds herself listening to authors.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.

    Selected readings:

    Laura Miller

    • The Magician’s Book: A Skeptic’s Adventures in Narnia
    • “The People Who Voice Audiobooks with Diverse Characters are Squirming Right Now,” Slate
    • “Enough With Literature as Self-Improvement!” Salon.com
    • “The Dark History Behind the Year’s Bestselling Debut Novel,” Slate

    Others:

    • “The Good Lieutenant by Whitney Terrell review – the Bush wars' best novel” by Charles Finch, The Guardian
    • “Greetings From Polysyllabia” by Nandini Lal, Washington Post
    • Wonderworks by Angus Fletcher
    • Minders of Make-Believe: Idealists, Entrepreneurs, and the Shaping of AmericanChildren's Literature by Leonard Marcus
    • “Toil and Trouble” by Caleb Crain, New York Times Book Review
    • “The Hideous Unknown of H.P. Lovecraft” by Charles Baxter, The New York Review
    • “Reply to Charles Baxter’s ‘The Hideous Unknown of H. P. Lovecraft’” by S.T. Joshi
    • “What Muriel Park Saw” by Parul Sehgal, The New Yorker
    • “Philip Roth’s Revenge Fantasy,” by Laura Marsh, New Republic
    • Judith Shulevitz, New York Times
    • Zadie Smith
    • Dwight Garner, New York Times
    • Daniel Mendelsohn, New York Review of Books

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    S4 Ep. 21: Fiction/Non/Fiction at 100 Episodes: Whit, Sugi, and Special Guest Jabari Asim Reflect on the Podcast’s Indelible Interviews and Controversies From the Past Four Years Jul 15, 2021
    Show notes

    For the 100th episode of Fiction/Non/Fiction, co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan hand out the first-ever “Nonnie Awards” for the podcast’s standout moments from the past four years. Then author, poet, and playwright Jabari Asim reflects on how the discourse on racism and police brutality has shifted since last summer. Asim also reads from his upcoming novel Yonder, out in January 2022.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.

    Selected readings:

    Jabari Asim

    • Yonder(out January 2022, available for pre-order)
    • Stop and Frisk
    • We Can’t Breathe: On Black Lives, White Lies, and the Art of Survival
    • Mighty Justice

    Others:

    • Halfway Home: Race, Punishment, and the Afterlife of Mass Incarceration by Ruben Jonathan Miller
    • The 1619 Project, Nikole Hannah-Jones
    • The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
    • Watchmen (TV series)
    • Fiction/Non/Fiction, June 2020: Black Stories Matter: Terrion Williamson and Jabari Asim on Narrative During the George Floyd Protests
    • Fiction/Non/Fiction, February 2020: Coronavirus and Contagion: Laurie Chen and Richard Preston on Writing About the Spread of Disease
    • Fiction/Non/Fiction, March 2019: C. Riley Snorton and T Fleischmann Talk Gender, Race, and Literature
    • Fiction/Non/Fiction, September 2018: Garrard Conley and SJ Sindu on the Mainstreaming of Queer Identity
    • Fiction/Non/Fiction, January 2018: Literary Color Lines: On Inclusion in Publishing
    • Fiction/Non/Fiction, November 2017: We’re All Russian, Now: Talking Russian-American Politics, and the Enduring Appeal of Russian Literature

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    S4 Ep. 20: ‘Goldfish Memory’: Adam Serwer on Critical Race Theory and the Very American Fear of Owning up to Our Racist Past and Present Jul 01, 2021
    Show notes

    Atlantic staff writer and author Adam Serwer joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how opposition to critical race theory aligns with our country’s historical resistance to acknowledging the truth and changing. Serwer reads from and discusses his new book The Cruelty is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump’s America, out this week.

    To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video excerpts from our interviews at LitHub’s Virtual Book Channel and Fiction/Non/Fiction’s YouTube Channel, and don't miss our brand-new website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/

    This podcast is produced by Andrea Tudhope.

    Selected readings:

    Adam Serwer

    • The Cruelty is the Point: The Past, Present, and Future of Trump’s America
    • “The Cruel Logic of the Republican Party, Before and After Trump,” New York Times
    • “The Nationalist’s Delusion,” The Atlantic

    Others:

    • Eric Foner
    • “The Great Awokening” by Matt Yglesias, Vox
    • The King of Kings County by Whitney Terrell

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