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    Code Switch

    What’s CODE SWITCH? It’s the fearless conversations about race that you’ve been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we’re all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts’ first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.

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    How sports betting went from “evil” to everywhere Nov 13, 2026
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    The leagues used to call gambling evil. Now they’re in business with it, and you can’t watch a game without getting inundated by betting ads. Gene talks with journalist Danny Funt, author of Everybody Loses: The Tumultuous Rise of American Sports Gambling, and Jerel Ezell, who researches addictive behavior, about how sports betting went from evil to everywhere, and why Black and Latino fans are being targeted.
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    The white woman tears of Elizabeth Holmes Nov 10, 2026
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    The new documentary ‘You Can See Everything’ has left audiences wondering how the line between fact and fiction is drawn, and who gets to draw it. At the center of the discourse is the film’s subject, convicted fraudster Elizabeth Holmes, and its co-director, comedian Nathan Fielder. Parker and Gene get into the racial and gender dynamics that many reviewers aren’t talking about with writer Hunter Harris and podcaster Ronald Young Jr.
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    Julio Torres wants more time (and five clones) Nov 06, 2026
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    Comedian Julio Torres has made a career out of seeing the whimsical in the mundane, from the hidden meanings of shapes, colors, to the bureaucracy of the United States immigration system. Yet, he still feels like he's running out of time to make the art he wants to. This week, Julio joins us to talk about his new book The Perfect Gift, his appearance in La Bola Negra, and the urgency of making art in this moment.
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    Who gets to joke about Israel? (feat. Ilana Glazer & Gianmarco Soresi) Nov 03, 2026
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    Being a Jewish comic who criticizes Israel right now means getting it from all sides. Ilana Glazer and Gianmarco Soresi talk to Gene about being called self-hating, getting accused of faking being Jewish, and watching gigs dry up. As comedy has become more intertwined with politics and power, some of the loudest critics of Israel are on the political right, and some of them traffic in antisemitic and racist tropes. Ilana and Gianmarco get into where that leaves them, and who the joke’s really on.
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    Black voters could decide the midterms. Why are they being ignored? Oct 30, 2026
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    Every election season, politicians remember Black voters exist, and then lecture them, pander to them or skip their doors entirely. MS NOW’s Eugene Daniels has been reporting on Black voters in Cleveland and Detroit, and he tells Parker what actually gets people to the polls (hint: it’s not guilt-tripping).
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    Weaponizing IQ: Who gets to be smart? Oct 27, 2026
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    President Trump and Silicon Valley tech bros are obsessed with IQ, but the history of intelligence testing is full of bunk race science and eugenics. With the rise of AI's "super intelligence," should we still be ranking human intelligence at all? We teamed up with our play cousins from It's Been a Minute to find out who gets to be labeled as smart with Quinn Slobodian, author of Hayek’s Bastards: Race, Gold, IQ, and Angela Saini, author of Superior: The Return of Race Science.
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    What if men read more books Oct 23, 2026
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    Are the men in your life reading? How do you convince people to check out more novels? This week, we turn to our play cousins at It's Been a Minute and their recent conversation with author Jason Reynolds. Reynolds is the acclaimed author of young adult novels, Look Both Ways, Long Way Down, and Ghost and he joins host Brittany Luse to discuss the lessons in empathy, friendship and hope that novels can inspire in all readers.
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    How "defund the police" became radioactive Oct 20, 2026
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    In 2020, “defund the police” was everywhere. Now, even politicians like AOC and Zohran Mamdani have turned around on it. But some proposals that fell under the defund umbrella, like unarmed crisis responders and violence prevention programs, actually took hold. Gene talks with Chenjerai Kumanyika, journalism professor and creator of the Empire City podcast about the history of the NYPD. They dig into why politicians will say “abolish ICE” but not “defund the police,” and whether the public is more ready to rethink policing than the people running for office think they are.
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    Why fascists love “fitness” Oct 16, 2026
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    Right-wing ideology has crept into gyms across the country. Is this a new phenomenon, or is the very idea of "fitness" ripe for politicization? Is our idea of fitness inherently fascist? We find out with political commentator Hasan Piker, historian Natalia Mehlman Petrzela and professor Ava Purkiss, author of Fit Citizens.
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    How much reality do we want in our reality TV? Oct 13, 2026
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    Why do Black contestants on reality TV keep getting voted out first? Like a lot of people, B.A. Parker watches reality TV to escape. But seeing contestants of color on the receiving end of microaggressions keeps pulling her back to reality. Parker talks with Xavier Prather, Big Brother’s first Black winner, and sociologist Danielle Lindemann, author of True Story: What Reality TV Says About Us, about whether reality TV has an implicit bias problem.
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