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    Epicenter – Learn about Crypto, Blockchain, Ethereum, Bitcoin and Distributed Technologies

    Epicenter brings you in-depth conversations about the technical, economic and social implications of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technologies. Every week, we interview business leaders, engineers academics and entrepreneurs, and bring you a diverse spectrum of opinions and points of view.

    Epicenter is hosted by Sebastien Couture, Brian Fabian Crain, Friederike Ernst, Meher Roy and Felix Lutsch. Since 2014, our episodes have been downloaded over 8 million times.

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    Safe: Securing $100 Billion of Crypto Assets - Lukas Schor Apr 18, 2024
    Show notes

    What started out as a plan to build prediction markets, Gnosis ended up building crucial Ethereum infrastructure and tooling. Safe is one of its many successes, which originated during the 2017 ICO mania, as a solution for managing the raised capital securely, via a multi-sig. Even back then, the multi-sig model was quickly adopted by the entire industry, as a gold standard for asset security. Smart accounts and ERC-4337 represent the next step towards mass-adoption, through achieving a Web2-like UX.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Lukas’ background and how Safe was founded
    • Bitcoin vs. Ethereum multi-sigs
    • Smart accounts & ERC-4337
    • Safe’s design phylosohpy
    • Safe CORE, SDK & API
    • Safe wallet UX
    • Expanding cross-chain support
    • Safe account recovery
    • OpSec
    • Safe’s smart contract security
    • Gnosis ecosystem evolution

    Episode links:

    • Lucas Schor on Twitter
    • Safe on Twitter
    • Gnosis DAO on Twitter
    • Gnosis Chain on Twitter
    • Gnosis Pay on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture.


    Saga: 'Ethereum and Solana CAN NOT Scale. Our Chainlets Fix This!' - Rebecca Liao Apr 11, 2024
    Show notes

    One of the most important hurdles to mass adoption is represented by blockchain scalability, which also hinders the real-life utility of its numerous applications. While there are different solutions being experimented with, one should not overlook the importance of security and decentralisation. Saga introduces the concept of chainlets, interoperable Cosmos-based sovereign blockchains that share the security of Saga’s mainnet validator set. The majority of their parameters are fully customisable, allowing developers to tweak them towards their own needs. Saga’s main focus is building their very own Web3 gaming ecosystem, providing game devs the scaling needed to unlock their full potential and creativity.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Rebecca’s background and Saga overview
    • ‘Infinite’ horizontal scalability
    • Saga chainlets and their focus on blockchain gaming
    • Saga validators and fee model
    • Building a gaming ecosystem. UGC
    • Validator & infrastructure challenges
    • Saga mainnet rollout
    • $SAGA token launch and airdrop
    • Takeaways

    Episode links:

    • Rebecca Liao on Twitter
    • Saga on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Felix Lutsch.


    Movement Labs: 'Facebook's MOVE Will Bring Billions of Users to Crypto' - Rushi Manche Apr 06, 2024
    Show notes

    Classical, monolithic blockchains are inherently limited in their throughput due to their single-thread execution architecture. Modern VMs attempt to solve this issue through parallelisation being implemented from the get-go. Movement Labs employs the Move-VM to build a ZK L2 rollups on Ethereum, thus also deriving its security. Through parallel execution threads, Movement achieves a theoretical TPS of 160,000 while also ensuring sub-cent transaction fees.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Impressions from ETH Denver
    • Rushi’s background
    • Move vs. Solidity
    • EVM compatibility
    • Parallelisation vs. intent-based transactions
    • Security and parallel state transitions
    • Transitioning from EVM to newer VMs
    • Berachain’s approach to EVM-compatibility
    • Movement Labs’ tech stack
    • Decentralising the sequencer
    • Movement’s M1 and M2 chains
    • Celestia DA and the Dencun upgrade
    • Restaking
    • Bitcoin L2s
    • IBC-compatibility and USDC on Movement
    • Ethereum x Cosmos convergence
    • dApps on Move

    Episode links:

    • Rushi Manche on Twitter
    • Movement Labs on Twitter
    • Nebular Podcast 'Ethereum x Cosmos Convergence'

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Friederike Ernst.


    Wintermute: 'Avoid These Trading Mistakes!' Secrets of a Market Maker - Yoann Turpin Mar 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Market makers help create more efficient markets and liquid order books, by positioning themselves on the receiving end of a trade that other market participants are unwilling to fill. Quantitative analysis is crucial in determining their position and size. Wintermute defines itself as a tech-first company that also became one of the largest spot market making firms in Web3. From angel investing in Web2, to market making in Web3, Yoann Turpin (co-founder of Wintermute) has a vast experience in both tech products & financial markets. He shares what differentiates good traders and how he approaches investing, trading and market making.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Yoann’s background and his interest in trading
    • The ever-changing trading landscape
    • Wintermute’s genesis
    • Trading vs. Investing vs. Market Making
    • What defines a good trader
    • On-chain trading vs. CEX trading
    • How Wintermute succeeded
    • Wintermute culture
    • rsync blockbuilder
    • Longterm predictions
    • AI impact
    • Misc. Learning new languages

    Episode links:

    • Yoann Turpin on Twitter
    • Wintermute on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain.


    Gearbox Protocol: 'DeFi Is Boring, Let's Reinvent Credit' - Ivan & Mikael Lazarev Mar 23, 2024
    Show notes

    Credit is a widely used term, which could essentially be summarised as “more capital so you can do whatever you want”. In DeFi, there are numerous ways of getting exposure to an asset in a leveraged manner: from looping to perpetuals and margin trading, the possibilities are endless (especially when you also account for synthetic versions). Gearbox Protocol aims to create a universal, composable, on-chain ‘credit layer’, through credit account abstraction. This approach simultaneously addresses three concerns: liquidity, security and, ultimately, user experience (UX).

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Mikael’s and Ivan’s backgrounds
    • Composable leverage explained
    • Leveraged staking
    • Gearbox credit account
    • Managing smart contract risk
    • Quotas and rate limits
    • Leveraged restaking
    • Governance and safety parameters
    • Scaling Gearbox
    • Fee structure

    Episode links:

    • Mikael Lazarev on Twitter
    • Ivan on Twitter
    • Gearbox Protocol on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Meher Roy.


    Humayun Sheikh: Fetch AI – Decentralising AI Economies Mar 16, 2024
    Show notes

    While large language models (LLMs) are rather passive from an economic perspective on their own, AI agents offer a preview of what truly autonomous AI applications can achieve. Fetch.ai aims to create a platform for economic interactions in the AI economy, where participants can provide many different kinds of stake, ranging from purely financial, in the form of cryptocurrency tokens, to utility based, in the form of data sets that LLMs can be trained on. It thus creates a supply chain that links different actors of the AI economy.

    We were joined by Humayun Sheikh, co-founder & CEO of Fetch.ai, to discuss AI economic models and how LLMs can be integrated by agentic systems as a foundation for autonomous AI apps.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Humayun’s background
    • Founding Fetch.ai
    • Multi-agent systems
    • Autonomous economic agent
    • Building a Cosmos based blockchain
    • Integrating ML with agent economy
    • Scalability & interoperability
    • Use cases & partnerships
    • AI x crypto projects
    • Incentivising developers
    • AI alignment problem
    • Fetch AI roadmap
    • The future of ML & LLMs

    Episode links:

    • Humayun Sheikh on Twitter
    • Fetch.ai on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/539


    Jasper De Goojier: SEDA – Intent-Based Modular Data Layer Mar 09, 2024
    Show notes

    As technology progresses, infrastructure should be commoditised, especially in Web3, in order to avoid the creation of bottlenecks and gatekeepers. Blockchains are naturally oblivious to off-chain data, so they need oracles to fetch data. However, given their past technical limitations, oracles have failed to provide a decentralised and permissionless framework for data query. SEDA seeks to change this by creating an intent-based modular data layer, which brings off-chain data on-chain, in order for it to be available to any party, regardless of who requested it first.

    We were joined by Jasper De Goojier, co-founder of SEDA Protocol, to discuss the oracle landscape and how SEDA aims to decentralise it and make data access permissionless.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Jasper’s background
    • High level overview of SEDA
    • Oracle use cases
    • How SEDA Protocol functions
    • Intent-based data availability
    • Verifying subjective data & LLM integration
    • ZKPs & FHE for data privacy
    • Interoperability & bridging
    • Roadmap & optimistic oracles
    • SEDA token migration
    • Chain abstraction

    Episode links:

    • Jasper De Goojier on Twitter
    • SEDA Protocol on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/538


    Anish Mohammed: Panther Protocol – Zero-Knowledge Compliant Privacy in DeFi Mar 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Blockchains are, by default, public ledgers containing every transaction recorded by the network. While this ensures transparency, it also violates users’ privacy once an address is linked to an entity. Apart from creating additional risk for self-custody, institutions are also limited by what they can publicly share on a blockchain. As a result, there is great demand and utility for on-chain, compliant privacy, which still requires KYC (& KYT), but protects them through cryptographic constructs. Zero knowledge proofs attest computational integrity, allowing for transactions to be bundled together and their correctness verified, without revealing each individual interaction.

    We were joined by Anish Mohammed, co-founder & CTO of Panther Protocol, to discuss the importance of compliant privacy for on-chain transactions, powered by zero knowledge technology.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Anish’s background
    • Panther’s value proposition
    • UX & on-chain privacy
    • Panther’s multi-asset shielded pool architecture
    • KYC & KYT
    • Shielded zones and transactions
    • Zone administrator
    • Address mapping
    • Roadmap & Panther mainnet
    • Target audience & adoption
    • Fee model & tokenomics

    Episode links:

    • Anish Mohammed on Twitter
    • Panther Protocol on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Meher Roy. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/537


    Gil Binder & Yair Cleper: Lava Network – Decentralising RPC and Node Providers Feb 23, 2024
    Show notes

    The monolithic blockchain era appears to be sunsetting. Among the first to contribute to this paradigm shift was Cosmos, which introduced the idea of specialized sovereign blockchains (appchains), made possible by the Cosmos SDK. Nowadays, the modular thesis employs external data availability and even execution solutions, which enables the creation of countless new chains. Each new blockchains comes with its own ‘specs’, and centralised RPC and node providers have to adapt to each chain’s setting. However, the saying ‘Jack of all trades, master of none’ applies in this scenario too - we have often witnessed RPC failures during high demand periods. Lava Network aims to provide a competitive marketplace for RPC and node providers, which would compete based on their performance and user feedback.

    We were joined by Gil and Yair to discuss Lava Network’s RPC decentralisation in the modular, multi-chain landscape.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • High-level overview of Lava Network
    • What problem Lava Network solves
    • Decentralised marketplace for RPC providers
    • Quality of centralised vs. decentralised RPC providers
    • Gateways
    • Lava Network participants
    • Specs & APIs
    • Quality of service & provider optimizer
    • How services are priced
    • Relayers
    • Modularity & chain abstraction
    • Magma & Lava mainnet

    Episode links:

    • Yair Cleper on LinkedIn
    • Gil Binder on Twitter
    • Lava Network on Twitter

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Sebastien Couture & Brian Fabian Crain. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/536


    Zhiming Yang: Orbit Markets – Crypto Derivatives and Structured Products Feb 17, 2024
    Show notes

    Prolonged range bound markets are a hallmark of bearmarkets and they usually end up chopping inexperienced or over leveraged traders. Customised structured products offer a solution for market participants that want to limit their downside, but also the upside, by introducing knock-outs at certain levels or triggers. Such custom options, usually with lower probabilistic chances of occurring, naturally come at a discount. This allows traders to hedge their risk, while also betting on certain outcomes or market scenarios.

    We were joined by Zhiming Yang, co-founder of Orbit Markets, to discuss crypto derivatives and how TradFi expertise applies to customising structured products for crypto markets.

    Topics covered in this episode:

    • Zhiming’s background in investment banking
    • FX derivative products
    • Exotic options
    • Crypto structured products
    • Custom solutions for crypto miners
    • Hedging Uniswap V3 impermanent loss
    • Options based on prediction markets
    • Managing counterparty risk
    • Protocolising structured products
    • Differences between TradFi and DeFi

    Episode links:

    • Zhiming Yang on LinkedIn
    • Orbit Markets on Twitter
    • Orbit Markets website

    Sponsors:

    • Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.io
    • Chorus One: Chorus One is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.one

    This episode is hosted by Meher Roy. Show notes and listening options: epicenter.tv/535


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