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    Environment China

    Environment China is a bilingual podcast from the Beijing Energy Network. The show features conversations with advocates, entrepreneurs, and experts working in the environmental field in China.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Micromobility and sustainability: A day in the life of a bike-sharing scholar - with Wen Yi [in Chinese] Jan 22, 2024
    Show notes

    In the latest episode of Environment China's podcast, we speak to Wen Yi as part of our Young Professionals in Sustainability series. Wen Yi is a doctoral graduate in Transportation Engineering from the University of Tennessee in the United States and a master's degree in statistics. He previously received a master's degree in Environmental Science and Management from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Wen Yi has been deeply involved in the environmental field since his undergraduate degree. During his PhD, Wenyi's main research area was micro-mobility, especially the study of the impact of bike-sharing on the transportation system, environmental ecology, and personal health.

    Episode production: Joyce Yuan

    Support Environment China on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina


    Emergency Podcast! Sunnylands Declaration and COP28 - with Li Shuo Nov 16, 2023
    Show notes

    This is an emergency podcast about the Sunnylands Statement on Enhancing Cooperation to Address the Climate Crisis, which was released just a day ago. Top US and China climate negotiators Xie Zhenhua and John Kerry have held several days of talks at the Sunnylands estate near Palm Springs in California, and released this joint US-China statement in the lead-up to COP28 in Dubai.

    Just a few months ago, Kerry had visited BJ to negotiate similar topics, and President Xi had used the occasion to emphasize that China would set its own path on climate, and not give in to pressure. So this joint statement comes as a bit of a positive surprise.

    Topics we discuss:

    • The top highlights of the announcement, especially economy-wide emissions cuts and addressing all GHGs.
    • The meaning of "meaningful post-peak reductions in power sector emissions."
    • The importance of the phrasing around tripling renewable capacity.
    • What this means (or doesn't mean) for global stock taking.
    • How the issue of trade policy will play at the COP.
    • China's potential contribution to loss and damage funds.

    Further reading:

    Li Shuo, "What Does China Want From COP28?" Asia Society Policy Institute, November 2023, at https://asiasociety.org/policy-institute/what-does-china-want-cop28.

    This episode was produced by Anders Hove.

    Contribute to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina


    Young Professionals in Sustainability - with Qiwen Cui of Dialogue Earth [in Chinese] Nov 15, 2023
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    In the latest episode of Environment China's Young Professionals in Sustainability Series, we talk with Qiwen Cui, the China editor at China Dialogue, which in 2024 will launch its new flagship website called Dialogue Earth. Qiwen has worked in various media outlets covering climate action, technology, and entrepreneurship. Her focuses at Dialogue Earth are biodiversity, food systems, energy and climate change. Before moving to London, Qiwen worked at Shanghai-based sustainable social enterprise BottleDream and Curiosity Daily, among others. In the podcast, we will discuss Qiwen's early academic and work background, career planning path, a day at Dialogue Earth's London office, and sustainable societies and events in London.

    This episode is in Chinese and is produced by our Executive Producer Xiaodan Yuan

    Please consider supporting us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina

    我们一生中有将近三分之一的时间都在工作中度过,所以我们要的不仅仅只是一份工作,而是一个与我们的目标、优势和价值观相一致的职业。2022年我们发起了"可持续宝藏青年都在做什么"圆桌并邀请了来自环境、能源和可持续发展领域的小伙伴们分享他们的工作机构和内容、职业发展规划及在工作上遇到的挑战。在经历了2022年每月一期的活动后,我们觉得还是非常有必要把这些宝贵的经验以文字或者播客的形式记录下来,所以环境能源可持续圈打工人系列播客诞生了!

    在环境中国最新一期的播客中,我们邀请到了Dialogue Earth的中文编辑崔绮雯——绮雯在伦敦以写作为生,主要关注生物多样性,食物系统,能源和气候变化等议题。搬来伦敦前,绮雯在上海的可持续社会企业 BottleDream 和好奇心日报等机构任职。我们在播客中将探讨绮雯早期的学业和工作背景、职业规划路线、在 Dialogue Earth 伦敦办公室的一天,和伦敦的可持续社团和活动等。

    您可以在各大播客平台、小宇宙上、和北京能源网络公众号收听环境中国播客。本集播客制作人:Xiaodan Yuan


    Coal is back – with Sam Clissold of Carbon Tracker Oct 30, 2023
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    Coal in China is seeing a multi-year resurgence after years in which the government seemed ready to dial back and ultimately halt coal power construction. Indeed, just months after the 2020 announcement by Xi Jinping on carbon peaking and carbon neutrality, in early 2021 a Central Environmental Inspection Team report criticized the National Energy Administration for approving too much coal and ignoring environmental policy goals (albeit on air quality, not carbon). The report stated that NEA had 'built what shouldn't be built (coal, coal power lines), and not built what should be built.' China also committed internationally to 'strictly control' new coal capacity through 2025, after which coal power should decline. Ironically, that CEIT report was just months before a major new coal boom in China began, which kicked off even before power shortages in late 2021 that were caused by high coal prices and then further power cuts in 2022 caused by hydro shortfalls in some regions.

    Our guest for this episode is Sam Clissold, analyst with Carbon Tracker. Sam has deep expertise and experience looking at the pipeline of coal power projects in China and analyzing the potential economic risks of stranded assets they pose.

    Topics we discuss:

    • China's coal plant pipeline and what's driving the increase.
    • What happened to the plan to 'strictly control' new capacity?
    • The geography of new coal - where is new coal being built?
    • What are the economics of making coal more flexible to balance renewables, and does this cost potentially lead to asset stranding?
    • Why is coal booming in Guangdong? To replace gas?
    • Plans to introduce a capacity payment scheme to subsidize coal power.
    • The overall scale of the coal power stranded asset risk and its size relative to China's economy.

    For further reading:

    Sam Clissold, 'Balancing Act: Stranded Assets and Flexibility in China's Power Sector,' Carbon Tracker, 30 March 2023, at https://carbontracker.org/reports/balancing-act-stranded-assets-and-flexibility-in-chinas-power-sector/.

    Episode producers: Joyce Yuan (production) and Anders Hove (host)

    Join us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina


    "Greener than Ever"? The BRI turns 10! - with Christoph Nedopil-Wang Oct 15, 2023
    Show notes

    The Belt-and-Road Initiative (BRI) has reached the ripe old age of 10 this month. Those 10 years have seen a lot of change, including on topics like the relative focus on clean energy versus fossil fuels and the interest in and incentives for applying ESG criteria to BRI investments. Today we are joined by frequent guest and longtime friend of the pod, Professor Christoph Nedopil-Wang. This year he became the Director Griffith Asia Institute and is also Professor at Griffith University in Brisbane, Australia. Previously, he was Associate Professor and Director of the Green Finance & Development Center, Fudan University. He previous worked in Beijing at the International Institute of Green Finance (IIGF), as well as at GIZ.

    Cheat sheet:

    • Q: Was the 1H 2023 really the greenest ever, as Reuters summarized? (A: Reuters focused on energy sector, where change most evident, though oil & gas investments are big and lumpy, so can't just look at 1H. "Small and beautiful" green investments becoming more common.)
    • Q: Is energy becoming greener just because fossils falling, but renewables not picking up as much? (A: Both declining coal share and growing renewables, but renewables need much stronger growth.)
    • Q: Why is state-owned sector declining and private sector going up? Is that due to SOEs focusing on domestic investment to respond to downturn? (A: Perhaps, but also because private firms now much stronger, and battery-related giants investing in big projects.)
    • Q: What about mining for battery materials, is there more investment in value-creating parts of that supply chain in Africa, or is it all being processed elsewhere? (A: Yes, but need to be cautious on environmental impact of local processing and whether local firms or communities actually capture value.)
    • Q: What is the situation with Chinese basic ESG principles (disclosure, community involvement) being applied on the BRI, as opposed to just meeting minimum local standards? (A: Not so good, for the power sector case studies they looked at.)

    For further reading:

    Christoph Nedopil Wang, 'China Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) Investment Report 2023 H1,' Green Finance & Development Center, Fudan University, 1 August 2023, at https://greenfdc.org/china-belt-and-road-initiative-bri-investment-report-2023-h1/

    Cecilia Springer et al., 'Elevating ESG: Empirical lessons on environmental and social governance implementation of Chinese projects in Africa,' Boston University, 30 August 2023, at https://www.bu.edu/gdp/2023/08/30/elevating-esg-empirical-lessons-on-environmental-social-and-governance-implementation-of-chinese-projects-in-africa/

    Andrew Hayley, 'China's Belt and Road energy projects set for "greenest" year, research shows,' Reuters, 2 August 2023, at https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chinas-belt-road-energy-projects-set-greenest-year-research-2023-08-02/


    Marine plastics with Liu Xiao (Women in Sustainability) [Chinese] Sep 20, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode of our Women in Sustainability series, we are speaking again with Dr Liu Xiao about marine waste and the broader topic of waste and recycling in general. We talk with Dr Liu about a typical day at work on her projects at GIZ.

    Dr Liu is Project Manager at GIZ of the Rethinking Plastic-Circular Economy Solutions to Marine Litter (China), Integrated Waste Management NAMA (Nationally Appropriate Mitigation Actions) Project, and Textile Compass Project. She is also a member of Recycling and Waste Minimisation Committee of the International Solid Waste Association (ISWA). She has more than 15 years' experience on municipal solid waste (MSW) management and sustainable development especially on policy research and technology consulting. Her research is mainly about integrated waste management and low carbon transition, plastic waste management and pollution control, with a special focus on sustainable business model establishment in the waste sector.

    我们一生中有将近三分之一的时间都在工作中度过,所以我们要的不仅仅只是一份工作,而是一个与我们的目标、优势和价值观相一致的职业。2022年我们发起了"可持续宝藏青年都在做什么"圆桌并邀请了来自环境、能源和可持续发展领域的小伙伴们分享他们的工作机构和内容、职业发展规划及在工作上遇到的挑战。在经历了2022年每月一期的活动后,我们觉得还是非常有必要把这些宝贵的经验以文字或者播客的形式记录下来,所以"环境能源可持续圈打工人"系列播客诞生了!

    在环境中国最新一期的播客中,我们邀请到了刘晓博士——刘晓是德国国际合作机构(GIZ)的项目执行主任,她主要负责城市生活垃圾综合管理、循环经济与海洋垃圾、和纺织行业绿色转型这三个项目。她在城市生活垃圾管理领域有15年的政策及技术咨询经验,并关注废弃物管理及可持续商业模式的建立。我们在播客中将探讨刘晓早期的学业和工作背景、加入德国国际合作机构的契机、在德国国际合作机构工作的一天等。

    Episode producer: Joyce Yuan

    Support us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina


    The evolution of China's climate diplomacy – with Taylah Bland Sep 07, 2023
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    In this episode of our Women in Sustainability series, we are talking about the evolution and underpinnings of China's climate diplomacy. Our guest is Taylah Bland, Schwarzman Fellow at the Asia Society Policy Institute's Center for China Analysis. She specializes in China's domestic climate politics and international environmental law. She is a graduate of New York University, Shanghai and Tsinghua University as a Schwarzman Scholar.

    In this episode we cover:

    • China's tendency to boost domestic policy first, before making climate commitments.
    • China's signing on to climate agreements in the early phases, such as the Kyoto Protocol and Clean Development Mechanism
    • The importance of China's domestic policy leading up to its Paris commitment
    • Whether China's climate diplomacy commitments lag domestic trends so much, such as on renewables, that they are more for splashy announcements and soft power
    • What further domestic policy steps are needed before China can enhance its ambitions for the next round of climate talks

    Further reading:

    Taylah Bland, "Key Factors Shaping China's Engagement With International Environmental Law," Asia Society Policy Institute, April 2023, at https://asiasociety.org/policy-institute/key-factors-shaping-chinas-engagement-international-environmental-law.

    Support us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina

    Episode produced by: Anders Hove


    Do China's EVs really reduce emissions and improve air quality? - with Zhang Shaojun Aug 28, 2023
    Show notes

    Today's episode looks at the topic of electric vehicles and their impact on both carbon emissions and urban air quality. China has the world's largest market for electric vehicles, and it is the largest maker of lithium-ion batteries for electric vehicles manufactured worldwide. Hence, the environmental impact of EVs, even outside of China, often goes back upstream to China.

    Our guest is Zhang Shaojun, Associate Professor at the Tsinghua University School of the Environment. His research examines the environmental impacts of emissions from road transportation systems on air quality, climate and public health. Before joining Tsinghua University, he was a Postdoctoral Associate at University of Michigan and Atkinson Postdoctoral Research Fellow at Cornell University.

    Shaojun and his colleagues have published two important papers on these topics this year. The first, in the journal PNAS Nexus, looks at the upstream greenhouse gas emissions from battery manufacturing as well as a regional breakdown of power sector emissions from EV charging. The second paper, in Environmental Pollution, looks at the impact of EVs on air quality, employing Tsinghua's CMAQ model to look at how EVs affect ozone and PM2.5, in particular considering the seasonal effects on air chemistry, which relates to the formation of secondary pollution. (Primary emissions refer to pollutants directly emitted from vehicles or power plants, whereas secondary pollutants are formed in the atmosphere through mixing of chemical precursors.)

    For further reading:

    Fang Wang, Shaojun Zhang, Yinan Zhao, Yunxiao Ma, Yichen Zhang, Anders Hove, and Ye Wu, "Multisectoral drivers of decarbonizing battery electric vehicles in China," PNAS Nexus, Volume 2, Issue 5, May 2023, https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/2/5/pgad123/7159885.

    Yiliang Jiang, Xinyu Liang, Shaojun Zhang, Zechun Hu, Anders Hove, and Ye Wu, "The future air quality impact of electric vehicle promotion and coordinated charging in the Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei region," Environ Pollut., 1 September 2023, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.envpol.2023.121928.

    Support us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina

    Episode Executive Producer: Anders Hove


    Sustainable forestry and the role of China – with Beibei Yin Aug 21, 2023
    Show notes

    Today's podcast looks at the topic of sustainable forestry and the role of China, particularly at the role of Chinese banks. Our guest is Beibei Yin, who researches the intersection of China's policies on forestry practices abroad and policies on green finance. Two years ago she founded her own consultancy called Bambu Consulting. Previously, she served for many years as Senior Policy Advisor at Global Witness based in London, where she researched topics such as addressing financing from China that leads to deforestation in Southeast Asia, stopping illegal timber trade, and the role of global supply chains in addressing deforestation and illegal timber. She previously joined the podcast in May 2018 to talk about her research following the 9000-mile path of illegal timber from Papua New Guinea to markets.

    For further reading:

    Beibei Yin, "China's new green finance guidelines have a deforestation blind spot," 1 August 2022, at https://chinadialogue.net/en/business/chinas-new-green-finance-guidelines-have-a-deforestation-blind-spot/.

    Beibei Yin, "Who is Who No. 3 - Chinese Commercial Banks: an NGO Guide," Urgewald, January 2023, at https://www.urgewald.org/sites/default/files/media-files/WhoIsWho-No3-ChineseCommercialBanks.pdf.

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    https://www.patreon.com/EnvironmentChina

    Episode Executive Producer: Anders Hove


    Breaking: Analysis of China's August Green Certificate Policy - with Anders Hove Aug 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Last week, China came out with a dramatic new policy on green certificates, radically reforming what had been a sleepy aspect of the clean energy transition in China. We don't usually do breaking news here on Environment China, but it happens that our co-producer, Anders Hove, has just published a paper on the topic as well as a short reaction article to the new policy. (Links below.)

    The new green certificate policy, issued by the National Development and Reform Commission, Ministry of Finance, and National Energy Administration, expands China's domestic renewable energy certificate scheme from onshore wind and solar to all types of renewables. The expansion means that all renewable projects will now be able to generate Green Electricity Certificates, or GECs, though only some will be traded. The policy reforms how GECs are priced and it also bans domestic generators from selling international renewable energy certificates to prevent double counting.

    Further reading:

    Anders Hove and Gary Sipeng Xie, "Green certificates with Chinese characteristics: Will green certificates help China's clean energy transition?" Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, 8 August 2023, at https://a9w7k6q9.stackpathcdn.com/wpcms/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/CE9-Green-certificates-with-Chinese-characteristics.pdf.

    Anders Hove, "After China's new green certificate policy, major questions remain," Oxford Institute for Energy Studies (LinkedIn article), 11 August 2023, at https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/after-chinas-new-green-certificate%3FtrackingId=ZOupiyoVR1GeYGktG%252BCJjw%253D%253D/?trackingId=ZOupiyoVR1GeYGktG%2BCJjw%3D%3D.


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