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    Engineering Enablement by DX

    The show focused on developer productivity and the teams and leaders dedicated to improving it. Each episode features in-depth interviews with Platform and DevEx teams, along with the latest research and approaches for measuring developer productivity. Presented by DX (getdx.com), the developer intelligence platform designed by researchers.

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    Platform team challenges, realigning on DevEx, and change management Oct 25, 2024
    Show notes

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    In this episode, Emanuel Mueller Ramos, Head of Developer Experience at Skyscanner, discusses the evolution of his team as they transitioned from focusing on frameworks and middleware to becoming a customer-centric, impact-driven organization. Emanuel details the strategies he used to gain stakeholder buy-in, why it's crucial to rethink traditional productivity metrics, and how they made a cultural shift to prioritize developer happiness and effectiveness. This conversation highlights the steps necessary to build a developer experience function that delivers meaningful impact.


    Mentions and links:

    • Follow Emanuel on LinkedIn
    • Measuring developer productivity with the DX Core 4

    Discussion points:

    • (1:14) The beginning of Skyscanner's developer productivity division
    • (3:53) Gaining stakeholder buy-in and refocusing the teams
    • (5:57) Redefining success metrics for developer productivity
    • (8:57) Pitching the developer experience focus to leadership
    • (17:26) Moving from frameworks to feedback loops
    • (20:45) Fostering a customer-centric culture
    • (23:20) Defining the collaboration between platform and developer experience teams
    • (26:41) Choosing the right metrics for developer experience success
    • (31:31) Risks and challenges ahead

    Exploring Developer Productivity with AI: Insights from Airbnb, GitHub, and Jumio Jul 17, 2024
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    In this week's episode, Abi is joined by industry leaders Idan Gazit from GitHub, Anna Sulkina from Airbnb, and Alix Melchy from Jumio. Together, they discuss the impact of GenAI tools on developer productivity, exploring challenges in measurement and enhancement. They delve into AI's evolving role in engineering, from overcoming friction points to exploring real-world applications and the future of technology. Gain insights into how AI-driven chat assistants are reshaping workflows and the vision for coding.


    Links:

    • How to measure GenAI adoption and impact

    Timestamps:

    • (2:58) Challenges of Measuring AI Productivity
    • (6:02) Use cases for GenAI within the Airbnb developer organization
    • (10:26) GitHub’s process for developing and testing new GenAI tools for developers
    • (12:42) Driving GenAI adoption strategies at Airbnb
    • (14:20) Research impact and productivity gains with GenAI tools at Airbnb
    • (17:03) Copilot use cases surveyed among Jumio's developers
    • (18:46) Challenges measuring impact of AI products at GitHub
    • (21:33) Biggest gains of GenAI usage at Airbnb
    • (24:19) Future opportunities in GenAI
    • (30:31) Challenges in GenAI for developers

    How SiriusXM revamped their platform and developer experience | Jared Wolinsky Jun 19, 2024
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    In this week's episode, Abi welcomes Jared Wolinsky, Vice President of Platform Engineering at SiriusXM, to delve into the inner workings of platform engineering at SiriusXM. Jared sheds light on their innovative approach to prioritizing projects, emphasizing alignment with overarching business goals. They explore how these strategies boost developer speed and drive technological advancement within the organization.


    Links:

    • When is the right time to establish a DevProd team report

    Timestamps:

    • (1:39) SiriusXM's major rebuild
    • (4:46) Challenges of building a platform during a major product revamp
    • (7:22) Navigating trade-offs
    • (10:06) Defining the ideal developer journey at SiriusXM
    • (17:28) Navigating the path to a user-centric developer experience
    • (23:05) Collaborating with leadership to iterate and gain approval
    • (25:05) Balancing enablement and platform
    • (28:28) Implementing a data-driven prioritization framework
    • (34:29) Aligning projects with business goals

    Developer Experience at American Express | Michelle Swartz (American Express) Jun 04, 2024
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    In this episode, Michelle Swartz, Vice president of Developer Enablement American Express, shares insights on improving developer experience. She discusses the creation of an onboarding bootcamp and the development of the AmEx Way Library for better knowledge management. Michelle explains how AmEx balances standardization and flexibility with the concept of Paved Roads. She also highlights the importance of measuring success, fostering community, and elevating the company's tech credibility.

    Mentions and links

    • GenAI Guide

    Timestamps

    • (5:45) Challenges of advocating for DevEx in non-tech companies
    • (7:43) Importance of senior leadership buy-in for DevEx
    • (9:58) Genesis of the DevEx organization and Jedi Council
    • (12:12) Transition to a dedicated DevEx function
    • (13:17) Formalizing investment in DevEx
    • (18:02) Initial efforts and learning in improving DevEx
    • (19:25) Using sentiment surveys to prioritize DevEx areas
    • (27:26) Addressing knowledge management challenges
    • (29:49) Balancing standardization and freedom in DevEx
    • (36:21) Implementing Paved Roads: evolution vs. revolution

    DORA, SPACE, and DevEx: Choosing the right framework | Laura Tacho + Abi Noda May 21, 2024
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    This week’s episode is a recording from a recent event hosted by Abi Noda (CEO of DX) and Laura Tacho (CTO at DX). The episode begins with an overview of the DORA, SPACE, and DevEx frameworks, including where they overlap and common misconceptions about each. Laura and Abi discuss the advantages and drawbacks of each framework, then discuss how to choose which framework to use.


    Mentions and Links:

    • Dora.dev

    Discussion points:

    • 2:50- DORA, SPACE, DevEx overview
    • 10:35- Choosing which framework to use
    • 13:15- Using DORA
    • 22:42-Using SPACE

    The science behind DORA | Derek DeBellis (Google) May 07, 2024
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    In this week's episode, we welcome Derek DeBellis, lead researcher on Google's DORA team, for a deep dive into the science and methodology behind DORA's research. We explore Derek's background, his role at Google, and how DORA intersects with other research disciplines. Derek takes us through DORA's research process step by step, from defining outcomes and factors to survey design, analysis, and structural equation modeling.

    Mentions and Links:

    • Derek DeBellis on LinkedIn
    • DX’s guide to measuring GenAI adoption and impact
    • 2023 Accelerate State of DevOps Report

    Discussion points:

    • (3:00)Derek’s transition from Microsoft to the DORA team at Google
    • (4:28) Derek talks about his connection to surveys
    • (6:16) Derek’s journey to becoming a quantitative user experience researcher
    • (7:48) Derek simplifies DORA
    • (8:19) DORA - Philosophy vs practice
    • (11:09) Understanding desired outcomes
    • (12:45) Self reported outcomes vs objective outcomes
    • (16:16) Derek and Abi discuss the nuances of literature review
    • (19:57) Derek details survey development
    • (27:55) Pretesting issues
    • (29:30) Designing surveys for other companies
    • (35:02) Derek simplifies model analysis and validation techniques
    • (38:48) Benchmarks: Balancing data limitations with method sensitivity

    How Slack fully automates deploys and anomaly detection with Z-scores | Sean Mcllroy (Slack) Apr 23, 2024
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    This week we’re joined by Sean Mcllroy from Slack’s Release Engineering team to learn about how they’ve fully automated their deployment process. This conversation covers Slack’s original release process, key changes Sean’s team has made, and the latest challenges they’re working on today.

    Mentions and links:

    • Read Sean’s blog post, The Scary Thing About Deploys
    • Follow Sean on LinkedIn

    Time Stamps:

    • (1:34): The Release Engineering team
    • (2:13): How the monolith has served Slack
    • (3:24): How the deployment process used to work
    • (6:23): The complexity of the deploy itself
    • (7:39): Early ideas for improving the deployment process
    • (9:07): Why anomaly detection is challenging
    • (10:32): What a Z-score is
    • (13:23): Managing noise with Z-scores
    • (16:49): Presenting this information to people that need it
    • (19:54): Taking humans out of the process
    • (23:13): Handling rollbacks
    • (25:27): Not overloading developers with information
    • (28:26): Handling large deployments

    What’s up with internal developer portals? | Chris Westerhold (Thoughtworks) Apr 09, 2024
    Show notes

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    This week’s episode is the recording of a live conversation between Abi and Chris Westerhold (Thoughtworks Head of Developer Experience). This conversation is useful for anyone early in their journey with developer portals or platforms: Abi and Chris discuss common approaches to solving these problems, pitfalls to avoid, building vs. buying, and more.

    Mentions and Links

    • Follow Chris on LinkedIn
    • Watch the recording of this conversation
    • Watch part 2 of this conversation on the market landscape
    • Learn about PlatformX, DX’s product mentioned in the conversation

    Time Stamps:

    • (3:09) Why there’s an increased interest in developer portals
    • (5:33) Chris’ background with dev portals
    • (6:37) Homegrown solutions for developer portals
    • (9:22) How developer portal initiatives begin
    • (11:24) Internal developer portal vs service catalogs and IDPs
    • (16:18) Mistakes companies make with developer portals
    • (21:05) Approaches to solving this problem
    • (24:28) How can developer portals drive value
    • (32:07) Common traps to avoid

    10 years of driving developer productivity at Yelp | Kent Wills (Yelp) Mar 26, 2024
    Show notes

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    On this week's episode, Abi interviews Kent Wills, Director of Engineering Effectiveness at Yelp. He shares insights into the evolution of their developer productivity efforts over the past decade. From tackling challenges with their monolithic architecture to scaling productivity initiatives for over 1,300 developers. Kent also touches on his experience in building a business case for developer productivity.


    Discussion points:

    • (1:42) Forming the developer productivity team
    • (3:25) Naming the team engineering effectiveness
    • (4:30) Getting leadership buy-in for focusing on this work
    • (7:54) Managing code ownership in Yelp’s monolith
    • (12:23) Supporting the design system
    • (16:00) The business case for forming a dedicated team
    • (19:45) How to standardize
    • (23:50) How their approach to standardization might be different in another company
    • (27:08) Demonstrating the value of their work
    • (32:21) Building an insights platform
    • (38:47) How Yelp is using LLM’s

    Mentions and Links

    • Connect with Kent Wills on LinkedIn
    • Watch Kent’s 2023 talk at Elevate
    • Listen to the interview with Peter Seibel (“Let 1,000 flowers bloom”)
    • Download the recently published benchmarks on developer productivity team headcount

    How “instructional engineers” improve developer onboarding at Splunk | Gail Carmichael (Splunk) Mar 12, 2024
    Show notes

    This week we’re joined by Gail Carmichael, Principal Instructional Engineer at Splunk. At Splunk, Gail’s team is responsible for improving developer onboarding, which they do through a multi-day learning program. Here, Gail shares how this program works and how they measure developer onboarding. The conversation also covers what instructional engineers are generally, and how Gail demonstrates the impact of her team’s work.


    Discussion points:

    • (1:16) The Engineering Enablement & Engagement Team at Splunk
    • (8:01) What an Instructional Engineer is
    • (14:36) The developer onboarding program at Splunk
    • (16:05) Components of a good onboarding program
    • (21:11) Why having an onboarding program matters
    • (28:17) Measuring onboarding at Shopify (Gail’s previous company)
    • (31:39) Measuring developer onboarding at Splunk

    Mentions and Links

    • Connect with Gail on LinkedIn
    • Download the report on Developer productivity metrics at top tech companies

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