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    Drummers on Drumming

    A podcast for drummers who think too much. Ben Hilzinger talks to the greats about creativity, identity, staying sane, and finding purpose behind the kit.
    Powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. For more inforamtion, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    Big Fat Five: Julian Wieder (Independent) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records Oct 08, 2024
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    Our guest today is one of Berlin’s rising stars in the drumming world, Julian Wieder. At just 25, he’s already making serious moves across the RnB, Hip-Hop, and Indie scene, both on stage and in the studio. I first discovered Julian thanks to the algorithm gods on Big Fat Snare Drum’s Explorer page—and once I saw his playing, I knew I had to get him on the show. His feel is unreal, blending pocket grooves with a sense of freedom that feels completely natural and effortless. Plus, he’s not just a drummer…he’s an educator, and a bit of a clinic master in the making.

    In this episode, we’ll dive into the top records that shaped his sound, and he introduced me to a new favorite of mine that I can’t wait for you to hear. So I hope you enjoy the top records that helped shaped Julian Wieder into the drummer he is today.

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    JULIAN'S BIG FAT FIVE:

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    Album - The Joy Of Motion

    Artist - Animals as Leaders

    Release Year - 2014

    Key Track(s) - The Woven Web, Tooth and Claw

    Drummer - Matt Garstka

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    Album - Continuum

    Artist - John Mayer

    Release Year - 2006

    Key Track(s) - Waiting On The World To Change, Gravity

    Drummer - Steve Jordan

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    Album - Wallflower

    Artist - Jordan Rakei

    Release Year - 2017

    Key Track(s) - Eye To Eye, Sorceress

    Drummer - Jim Macrae

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    Album - Chris Dave and The Drumhedz

    Artist - Chris Dave

    Release Year - 2018

    Key Track - Whatever

    Drummer - Chris Dave

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    Album - Past Present and Futures

    Artist - Chick Corea

    Release Year - 2001

    Key Track(s) - Fingerprints, Rhumba Flamenco

    Drummer - Jeff Ballard

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    Honorable Mentions:

    Nas - Illmatic

    Ghost Note - Swagism

    Yussef Kamaal - Black Focus


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    Big Fat Five: Gabe Smith (Gracie Abrams) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records Oct 02, 2024
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    Our guest today is Gabe Smith, the current CEO of Drums for Gracie Abrams Inc. A graduate of Berklee College of Music, now based in New York City, Gabe has also worked with incredible contemporary artists like Wet, Tei Shi, Eden, Frankie Cosmos, Kimbra and many more. Last summer, he opened for Taylor Swift and is about to rejoin that tour after some headline shows with Gracie Abrams. He’s a busy guy! It took some finessing since we’re both on tour, but we made it happen. I loved his picks, and I’m excited for you to hear this one. Please enjoy the top 5 records that shaped Gabe Smith into the sought-after, hardworking musician he is today. Cheers!

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    GABE'S BIG FAT FIVE:

    Album - Abbey Road

    Artist - The Beatles

    Release Year - 1969

    Key Track - She Came In Through The Bathroom Window

    Drummer - Ringo

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    Album - Songs In The Key of Life

    Artist - Stevie Wonder

    Release Year - 1976

    Key Track - Knocks Me Off My Feet

    Drummer - Stevie Wonder

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    Album - When The Pawn...

    Artist - Fiona Apple

    Release Year - 1999

    Key Track - A Mistake

    Drummer - Matt Chamberlain

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    Album - Friendly Travelers Live

    Artist - Wolfgang Muthspiel, Brian Blade

    Release Year - 2007

    Key Track - Gnadenwald (Live)

    Drummer - Brian Blade

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    Album - Donny Hathaway

    Artist - Donny Hathaway

    Release Year - 1971

    Key Track - She Is My Lady

    Drummer - Al Jackson Jr.


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    The Drum Panel: The Worth of Gear: Are Drum Heroes Still Relevant?...and yes, we talk about Oasis Sep 25, 2024
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    Episode 3 of The Drum Panel

    This week's guests are my good buddies Gunnar Olsen (Puscifer, Carina Round), Neal Daniels (Matchbox 20, Liz Phair), Mike Robinson (Blame My Youth, Food On Tour Podcast).

    In this episode, we dive into:

    • The value of high-end gear: Is it really worth the investment?
    • The existence of drum heroes: Do they still inspire us today?
    • Yes...we talk about Oasis...
    • Insights from the guys on the current landscape of drum endorsements.

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    Big Fat Five: Daniel Glass (Royal Crown Revue, Author/Historian) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records Sep 18, 2024
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    Our guest today is Daniel Glass. Daniel is a renowned drummer, educator, and historian known for his deep expertise in the roots of American drumming, particularly in jazz, swing, and early rock 'n' roll. A member of the pioneering retro-swing band Royal Crown Revue, Glass has performed with a wide array of top artists, blending historical influence with modern flair. His passion for drumming history is reflected in his books, clinics, and instructional videos. The project that introduced Daniel to me was his three-hour documentary called “The Century Project” which explores the evolution of the drum set and drumming styles from 1865 to 1965. Glass is also celebrated for his dynamic, groove-focused playing and his ability to bridge the gap between past and present drumming traditions. Go check out all his happenings at danielglass.com, but for now, please enjoy the 5 records that helped shape Daniel Glass into the drummer he is today. Cheers!

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    DANIEL'S BIG FAT FIVE:

    Album - Made In Japan

    Artist - Deep Purple

    Release Year - 1972

    Key Track(s) - Highway Star, Space Truckin', The Mule

    Drummer - Ian Paice

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    Album - Three Quartets

    Artist - Chick Corea

    Release Year - 1981

    Key Track(s) - Quartet No. 1, Quartet No. 2, Part 2

    Drummer - Steve Gadd

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    Album - Buffalo

    Artist - Frank Zappa

    Release Year - 2007 (from a 1980 live concert)

    Key Track(s) - The Torture Never Stops

    Drummer - Vinnie Colaiuta

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    Album - Lyric

    Artist - Billy Childs

    Release Year - 2005

    Key Track(s) - In Carson's Eyes, Into the Light, Scarborough Fair, American Landscape

    Drummer - Brian Blade, Marvin "Smitty" Smith

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    Album - From Darkness

    Artist - Avishai Cohen

    Release Year - 2015

    Key Track(s) - Beyond, Abie, C#-, From Darkness

    Drummer - Daniel Dor

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    Honorable Mentions:


    Album - Blue

    Artist - Joni Mitchell

    Release Year - 1971

    Key Track(s) - All I Want, This Flight Tonight

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    Album - The Concert at Carnegie Hall

    Artist - Benny Goodman

    Release Year - 1938

    Key Track(s) - Don't Be That Way, Honeysuckle Rose, Sing, Sing, Sing

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    Album - Drumsville

    Artist - Earl Palmer

    Release Year - 1961

    Drummer - Earl Palmer

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    Album - Live at the Royal Festival Hall

    Artist - John McLaughlin

    Release Year - 1989

    Key Track(s) - Mother Tongues

    Drummer - Trilok Gurtu

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    Album - Tiny Resistors

    Artist - Todd Sickafoose

    Release Year - 2008

    Key Track(s) - Allision Miller

    Drummer - Everyone Is Going


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    The Drum Panel: Gear Criticism, Flat Toms, and Endorsement Realities: Can You Play Without Knowing the Vocals? Sep 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Episode 2 PART DEUX of The Drum Panel

    Welcome to The Drum Panel—a segment where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions on polarizing and controversial drum topics submitted by our listeners.

    Today's episode is the second half of a conversation between myself (Ben), my co-host Eric Urrea and special guest, Kris Mazzarisi (owner/founder of Big Fat Snare Drum & drummer for Winnetka Bowling League).

    Today we discuss:

    • If you're overly critical of gear, are you showcasing your lack of skill?
    • Should snare drums and floor toms always between flat (Eric is surprisingly passionate about this subject)?
    • If you don't know what the singer is singing, can your take still suit the song?
    • We do it...we talk the world of endorsements.

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    Big Fat Five: Taye Dever Shares His Top 5 Influential Records Sep 04, 2024
    Show notes

    Our guest today is Taye Dever, a young drummer from North Carolina who recently came onto my radar and quickly grabbed my attention. Taye draws inspiration from a diverse range of genres, including R&B, Pop, Folk, Rap, Gospel, and more. While his musical style is eclectic, he seems to be a fresh face in the music scene. I’m honored if this is your first introduction to his work. We dive right in, so here are the records that have shaped Taye Dever into the musician he is today. Cheers!

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    TAYE'S BIG FAT FIVE:

    Album - Not Guilty

    Artist - The New Life Community Choir featuring John P. Kee

    Release Year - 2000

    Key Track(s) - Rain On Us

    Drummer - Calvin Rodgers

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    Album - Thirsty

    Artist - Marvin Sapp

    Release Year - 2007

    Key Track(s) - Praise Him In Advance

    Drummer - Calvin Rodgers

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    Album - Confessions

    Artist - Usher

    Release Year - 2004

    Key Track(s) - "Caught Up" Aaron Spears' drum performance @ 2006 Modern Drummer Festival

    Drummer - Aaron Spears

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    Album - Pure Energy DVD

    Artist - Various drummers

    Release Year - 2009

    Key Track(s) - Rekindled featuring Tony Royster Jr

    Drummer - Tony Royster Jr.

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    Album - Paramore

    Artist - Paramore

    Release Year - 2013

    Key Track(s) - Ain’t It Fun?, Still Into You

    Drummer - Ilan Rubin


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    The Drum Panel: Click Tracks, Minimal Setups, and the Truth About Bass Drums Aug 28, 2024
    Show notes

    Episode 2 of The Drum Panel

    Welcome to The Drum Panel—a show where a rotating group of professional drummers engages in roundtable discussions on polarizing and controversial drum topics submitted by our listeners.

    For today's panel, we have my co-host Eric Urrea and special guest, Kris Mazzarisi (owner/founder of Big Fat Snare Drum & drummer for Winnetka Bowling League).

    Today we discuss:

    • does practicing to a click make your playing sterile?
    • those who can't, teach. True or False?
    • does using less drums/cymbals make you more creative?
    • you should never put anything in your bass drum! True or False?
    • do drum shells tune themselves?
    • do you need to put a button at the end of every live song?
    • are the most musical drummers...non-drummers?

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    Big Fat Five: Philo Tsoungui's (The Mars Volta) Top 5 Influential Records Aug 21, 2024
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    Today's guest is Philo Tsoungui, an independent drummer based in Berlin, Germany. Philo has played with many incredible artists both in Germany and internationally, including a recent stint with The Mars Volta.

    I can't praise Philo's playing enough; it just works. While it can be categorized as Hip Hop, it's so much more than any single genre, as you'll discover in this episode. Philo shares many incredibly valuable insights, and we actually kicked off our recorded conversation by discussing practice routines (in an ideal world).

    So, without further ado, please enjoy the top 5 influences that shaped the incredible Philo Tsoungui. Cheers!

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    PHILO'S BIG FAT FIVE:

    Album - Black Orpheus

    Artist - Keziah Jones

    Release Year - 2003

    Key Track - Afrosurrealismfortheladies

    Drummer - Joshua McKenzie / Jose Joyette

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    Album - The Bedlam in Goliath

    Artist - The Mars Volta

    Release Year - 2008

    Key Track - Wax Simulacra

    Drummer - Thomas Pridgen

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    Album - Black Radio

    Artist - Robert Glasper

    Release Year - 2012

    Key Track - Afro Blue

    Drummer - Chris "Daddy" Dave

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    Album - Omar Rodriguez Lopez Group: Live Los Angeles on Sept 14th, 2010 (video)

    Artist - Omar Rodriguez Lopez Group

    Release Year - 2010

    Drummer - Deantoni Parks

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    Album - Zildjian K Custom Special Dry Performance

    Artist - Lenny "The Ox" Reece & The Lesson GK

    Release Year - 2018

    Key Track - The Weekend

    Drummer - Lenny "The Ox" Reece


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    The Drum Panel: Rudiments, Triggers, and the Lars/Ringo Debate: What Really Matters in Modern Drumming? Aug 14, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, my good friend and fellow professional drummer, Eric Urrea, and I are excited to launch the pilot episode of a new segment on our podcast, tentatively named “The Drum Panel.”

    Drummers are known for having strong opinions, and we aim to delve into many of these in a roundtable format. For this first recording, it’s just the two of us, but our vision is to feature multiple drummers from diverse backgrounds in each episode to foster engaging, relatable, and thought-provoking discussions. We invite you to join us on this journey.

    Today we discuss:

    • are there too many rudiments?
    • the hate towards Lars & Ringo
    • are triggers cheating?
    • virgin bass drums
    • do drum shells actually matter?
    • has social media ruined what it means to be a drummer?

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    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.

    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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    Big Fat Five: Adolfo Torres (M.I.J.O.) Shares His Top 5 Influential Records Jul 31, 2024
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    This week’s guest is Adolfo Torres. Adolfo's musical journey started in Cali, Colombia, and from a young age, his passion for music was evident, leading his parents to enroll him in drum lessons. This early start paved the way for his education at the Drummers Collective in NYC and later at Berklee College of Music on an American Tour Scholarship.

    After his studies, Adolfo moved to Austin, TX, playing with artists like JT Coldfire and Jennifer B and the Groove Kings, where he learned about the life of a working musician. In 2013, he returned to Colombia, forming the band M.I.J.O, which blends Classic, Modern, and Progressive Rock. All that being said, I’ve been a big fan of his for a long time and go check out a few of his videos before you listen to our chat. It will set the stage for a lot of what we talk about. I hope you enjoy the five records that shaped Adolfo Torres into the musician he is today. Cheers!

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    Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today!

    🎯 Click here to order now!

    Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit.


    ADOLFO'S BIG FAT FIVE:

    Album - The Inner Mounting Flame

    Artist - The Mahavishnu Orchestra

    Release Year f- 1971

    Key Track(s) - The Noonward Race, Vital Transformation, You Know You Know

    Drummer - Billy Cobham

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    Album - Paranoid

    Artist - Black Sabbath

    Release Year - 1970

    Key Track(s) - War Pigs, Rat Salad, Fairies Wear Boots

    Drummer - Bill Ward

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    Album - Red

    Artist - King Crimson

    Release Year - 1974

    Key Track(s) - One More Red Nightmare, Starless

    Drummer - Bill Bruford

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    Album - Badmotorfinger

    Artist - Soundgarden

    Release Year - 1991

    Key Track(s) - Rusty Cage, Slaves & Bulldozers

    Drummer - Matt Cameron

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    Album - Amputechture

    Artist - The Mars Volta

    Release Year - 2006

    Key Track(s) - Tetragrammaton, Meccamputechture, Viscera Eyes, Day of the Baphomets

    Drummer - Jon Theodore

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    HONORABLE MENTIONS:

    Band of Gypsys - Hendrix

    Presence - Led Zeppelin

    Bridge of Sighs - Robin Trower

    Tony Williams Lifetime: The Collection

    Master of Reality - Black Sabbath

    10,000 Days - Tool

    Deloused in the Commatorium - The Mars Volta

    Down on the Upside - Soundgarden

    Gretchen Goes to Nebraska - King’s X


    For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out www.bigfatsnaredrum.com and follow us on Instagram.

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