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    Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

    Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.

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    Ep. 148 - Gary Glass of Left Hand Brewing Aug 03, 2022
    Show notes

    Gary Glass was entrenched in the world of homebrewing. What began as a hobby soon turned to a career, where he spent 20 years at the Brewers Association, including a long stint as the director of the American Homebrewing Association.


    When COVID-19 struck and the Brewers Association laid off a significant portion of its staff, Gary was included in that group and pondered what he would do next. He wanted to stay involved in the brewing industry and thought about doing sales, but an opportunity presented itself at Lefthand Brewing, the venerable Colorado brewery that has cornered the craft market on nitro stout.


    It wasn’t far from his house and Gary was able to begin as a brewer, his first professional job in beer, where he’s spent the last nearly two years proving himself, working hard, and learning processes.

    Earlier this summer that work was rewarded as he was named head brewer.

    From starting off on malt extract to now running logistics on hundreds of barrels at a time, it’s been quite the journey, and we’ll start at the beginning.



    This Episode is Sponsored By:


    Harpoon Brewery
    Did you know that Harpoon IPA is New England’s Original IPA?

    Brewed in Boston and Vermont for decades by their Employee Owners.

    Hoppy, crisp, perfectly balanced.

    Harpoon IPA: New England’s Original IPA.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Gary Glass
    • Sponsors: Harpoon Brewery., The Craft Brewery Cookbook, ProBrewer, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Brewing, Homebrewing, Stout, Tripel, Recipes, Colorado, Brewers Association, Nitro

    Introducing The All About Beer Podcast Aug 01, 2022
    Show notes

    Welcome to the first episode of the new All About Beer podcast. In this premiere episode, co-hosts Em Sauter and Don Tse examine the Cold IPA with Kevin Davey, of Wayfinder Beer, who is credited with creating the style. From the specs and flavor, process and debunking myths, this show will explain and examine every facet of craft beer’s newest style.

    Subscribe to the All About Beer Podcast wherever you get your podcasts and please leave us a review. We appreciate your support.

    This Episode is Sponsored by:

    Athletic Brewing Company
    Athletic Brewing Company’s award-winning, craft, non-alcoholic beers are fit for all times. Down time, work time, game time, even gym time. Pick a time and grab an Athletic, because it’s about time you could enjoy a great-tasting brew, any time you want. Even right now. Head to athleticbrewing.com and get some fresh brews delivered. New customers can even get 20% off with code AllAboutBeer20 and free shipping on two 6-packs or more.


    For original articles or to read the vast archives or to check out All About Beer. follow us on Twitter @allaboutbeer and Instagram @allaboutbeer. Support Journalism by visiting our Patreon Page.

    • Hosts: Em Sauter and Don Tse
    • Guest: Kevin Davey of Wayfinder Beer
    • Sponsors: Athletic Brewing Co.
    • Tags: Cold IPA, Oregon, Lager, Hops, Brewing


    The following music was used for this media project:
    Music: Awesome Call by Kevin MacLeod
    Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/3399-awesome-call
    License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
    Artist website: https://incompetech.com


    Ep. 147 - Mitch Steele of New Realm Brewing Jul 27, 2022
    Show notes

    "I spent a few days in Georgia earlier this month, visiting breweries that had long been on my list but current global events kept me away. Chief among the breweries was New Realm, an impressive outfit that was founded by a trio of brewing professionals with long careers in beer.

    On the brewing side is Mitch Steele. He’s one of those first name club brewers who has spent his tenure creating intriguing and classic recipes, pushing the boundaries of hops, and working to bringing forgotten or shaddowed styles into the light.

    At New Realm he is overseeing several breweries and a distiller, including the main location where we sat at the bar on a recent afternoon drinking lager and IPA. It’s a wide ranging conversation that eventually turned to Stone Brewing, where he spent a decade as the brewmaster. That brewery recently sold to Sapporo Brewery, a move that shocked and saddened a lot of beer fans.

    Although he’s not there anymore and hasn’t been for some time, Stone is part of his history and Mitch shares some thoughts."

    - John Holl

    This Episode is Sponsored By
    Harpoon Brewery
    Did you know that Harpoon IPA is New England’s Original IPA?

    Brewed in Boston and Vermont for decades by their Employee Owners.

    Hoppy, crisp, perfectly balanced.

    Harpoon IPA: New England’s Original IPA.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Mitch Steele
    • Sponsors: Harpoon Brewery., The Craft Brewery Cookbook, ProBrewer, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Brewing, Hops, IPA, Lager, Recipes, History, Stone Brewing, Georgia

    Ep. 146 - A History of Brussels Beer in 50 Objects Jul 20, 2022
    Show notes

    "It can be hard to come up with new ideas for beer books, so sometimes taking inspiration from another concept – like lists – just makes sense. This is not a bad thing and in the case of Eoghan Walsh’s new book A History of Brussels Beer in 50 Objects it is a very good thing.

    This is especially true since he does not talk about beers specifically (with a few exceptions) since that concept has been done over and over again. There are tangible objects that have helped shape drinking in Brussels over the century and by carefully curating a tight list Walsh is able to weave together a longer story.

    This is no surprise as Walsh, who is an award-winning writer, and the editor of Brussels Beer City has worked over the years to tell stories beyond beer."

    -John Holl

    This Episode is Sponsored by:

    Athletic Brewing Company
    Athletic Brewing Company’s award-winning, craft, non-alcoholic beers are fit for all times. Down time, work time, game time, even gym time. Pick a time and grab an Athletic, because it’s about time you could enjoy a great-tasting brew, any time you want. Even right now. Head to athleticbrewing.com and get some fresh brews delivered. New customers can even get 20% off with code AllAboutBeer20 and free shipping on two 6-packs or more.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Eoghan Walsh
    • Sponsors: Athletic Brewing Co., The Craft Brewery Cookbook, ProBrewer, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Books, Brussels, History, Lambic, Coolship

    Ep. 145 - Todd DiMatteo of Good Word Brewing + Public House Jul 13, 2022
    Show notes

    "I’ve had the good pleasure of knowing today’s guest for a while now, although this is only the third time we’ve hung out in person. Todd DiMatteo is the owner and brewer here at Good Word Brewing and Public House in Duluth, GA and has been turning out some of the more flavorful, interesting, and low abv beers that I’ve had in a while.

    He has a long career in beer and hospitality, including a long term at the Brick Store Pub, an Atlanta institution, the influence of that bar can be felt in his beers today, with nods to traditional styles and an appreciation for well-established international beer regions.

    On this episode he talks about the brewer's ego, making beers that make him happy and foster a good drinking experience, and his huge love of carbonation."


    -John Holl

    This Episode is Sponsored by:

    Cigar City Brewing Co.
    Cigar City Brewing has taken inspiration from beyond the cosmos for Cosmic Crown, a golden-hued Strong Golden Ale, and added Galaxy hops to impart passionfruit and peach qualities to its profile of ripe fruit and light peppery spice. Assertive aromas of pineapple, bubblegum, dried flowers, and a hint of black pepper greet the nose. Overripe banana, red apple, and lime leaf esters play on the palate, while poundcake-like malt, pepper-like spiciness, and herbaceous bitterness play supporting roles. Learn more at CigarCityBrewing.com

    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp is a proud member of the brewers association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code BEEREDGE15 for 15% off your first order.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Todd DiMatteo
    • Sponsors: Cigar City Brewing, Stomp Stickers, The Craft Brewery Cookbook, ProBrewer, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Malt, ABV, Carbonation, Georgia, Food, Brewing

    Ep. 144 - Andrew Witchey of Dancing Gnome Jul 06, 2022
    Show notes

    Andrew Witchey is the founder and brewer of Dancing Gnome in Pittsburgh and opened up his new taproom early for a conversation over Kölsch about how the city has evolved beer-wise and where it’s heading.


    Then he talks about his appreciation of lagers, his dislike of sours, and how he created a new space that reflects the beers and the brewery’s personality.


    This Episode is sponsored by:


    Cigar City Brewing Co.
    Cigar City Brewing has taken inspiration from beyond the cosmos for Cosmic Crown, a golden-hued Strong Golden Ale, and added Galaxy hops to impart passionfruit and peach qualities to its profile of ripe fruit and light peppery spice. Assertive aromas of pineapple, bubblegum, dried flowers, and a hint of black pepper greet the nose. Overripe banana, red apple, and lime leaf esters play on the palate, while poundcake-like malt, pepper-like spiciness, and herbaceous bitterness play supporting roles. Learn more at CigarCityBrewing.com

    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp is a proud member of the brewers association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code BEEREDGE15 for 15% off your first order.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Andrew Witchey
    • Sponsors: Cigar City Brewing, Stomp Stickers, The Craft Brewery Cookbook, ProBrewer, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Pittsburgh, Lager, Sours, Business, Taprooms, IPA, Hops, Tradition

    Ep. 143 - Author Pete Brown talks about Clubland and The World's Best Beers Jun 29, 2022
    Show notes

    "Pete Brown is a an award winning writer and author whose curiosity has led him deep into the history of food and drink and along the way he has uncovered forgotten stories, helped shape the understanding of beer, and enchanted readers though his ability to convey a keen sense of place and voice.

    His latest book was just released. It’s called Clubland: How the Working Men’s Club Shaped Britain. He charts the clubs early beginnings, booming popularity, influence on popular culture, and eventual decline.

    In the pages, reads some promo copy, Pete 'explores the clubs’ role in defining masculinity, community and class identity for generations of men in Britain’s industrial towns. They were, at their best, a vehicle for social mobility and self-improvement, run as cooperatives for working people by working people: an informal, community-owned pre-cursor to the Welfare State.'

    The we transition to another book: World’s Greatest Beers: 250 Beers from Pilsen to Portland, which will be published by CAMRA Books in August. Pete is the chief writer on the book that includes entries from other well known writers in the beer space, including the host of this podcast. We'll talk about how to build out such a list, the eventual flack that will be flung, and what goes into enjoying a great beer aside from taste."

    -John Holl

    This Episode is sponsored by:


    Jack's Abby Brewing
    Argentina is a lively land of agriculture, food and fun. For us, those are the ingredients for a great beer culture. In talking to our friends Andres and Alberto, we covered a range of topics from climate, to crops to Asado-Argentinian BBQ parties. This inspired us to create a new lager using Malbec grape must that would pair perfectly with the social occasion and the food. We hope you enjoy this unique lager inspired by culture and conversation.

    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp is a proud member of the brewers association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code BEEREDGE15 for 15% off your first order.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Pete Brown
    • Sponsors: Jack's Abby, Stomp Stickers, The Craft Brewery Cookbook, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Clubs, Work, Economics, Books, History, CAMRA

    Ep. 142 - Nate Schweber author of "This America of Ours" Jun 22, 2022
    Show notes

    "I’ve known Nate Schweber going on 20 years now, we’ve been colleagues, friends, and even co-authors. I can say without a doubt that he is one of the hardest working reporters I’ve ever met, he has a keen eye for detail, enjoys a good drink, and knows how to rock with the best of them.


    He’s a raconteur, with endless curiosity and compassion, and great passion. My life is better because I know him.

    His chords are familiar to listeners of this show as it has opened up every episode since we started, and was even part of the old After Two Beers show I did for All About Beer. We’ve been to breweries and crime scenes together, we’ve had adventures and even wrote a book together – Indiana Breweries – which was released in 2011 and has since gone on to sell tens of copies.

    He lives in Brooklyn these days, but he grew up in Missoula, Montana and has always had a passion for outdoor reporting. A previous book, Fly Fishing Yellowstone is a must for any angler looking for the story of trout in the historic park, not just the fish but tales of the streams and its history.

    His latest book tells a remarkable story about conservation, activism, and journalism, with belts of sold drinking thrown in here and again. It’s called This America of Ours: Bernard and Avis DeVoto and the Forgotten Fight to Save the Wild.

    It will be published on July 5, 2022 and I can’t say this enough: pre-order a copy now.

    It tells the story of a husband and wife team that took on special interests and politicians like Joe McCarthy and worked to protect land that should have been protected, and along the way, they strike up a friendship with a woman who would alter the course of cooking in America.

    It’s suspenseful, meticulously researched, frightening with bits of levity, and historically important with mirrors to today. It is one of the most engaging books I’ve read in a long time, and I’m not just saying all of this because he showed up at my house with a bottle of gin.

    But, of course, that’s where we start."

    -John Holl

    This Episode is sponsored by:


    Cigar City Brewing Co.
    Jai Low IPA. Vibrant aromas of nectarine, orange zest, and lime leaf greet the nose, melding seamlessly with peach-like esters and a light, bready malt aroma. Citrus flavors of clementine and tangerine dance on the palate with a snappy bitterness, with bread crust-like malt, and sparkling carbonation providing balance to this moderate-bodied IPA. Learn more at CigarCityBrewing.com

    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp is a proud member of the brewers association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code BEEREDGE15 for 15% off your first order.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Nate Schweber
    • Sponsors: Cigar City Brewing, Stomp Stickers, The Craft Brewery Cookbook, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Gin, Politics, National Parks, Conservation, History, Travel

    Ep. 141 - Tom Beckmann of Goldfinger Brewing Jun 15, 2022
    Show notes

    "It's no secret I love a well made lager. One of the great benefits of this current brewing age is the number of small producers that are creating high quality pilsners and lagers. Goldfinger Brewing, located in a western Chicago suburb is one of them.

    Thomas Beckmann, the co-founder and brewer is my guest this week. He has all the credentials one would want from a proper lager brewer. He has his Master Brewer’s diploma through the World Brewing Academy in Chicago and Munich, and built Goldfinger to the specs he wanted, including a decoction brewhouse, aeration, horizontal lager tanks and natural carbonation.

    There is also some family history involved here as well. Markus Goldfinger, a brewer – and equipment manufacturer - who lived in the 19th century in Poland and sold across Europe is Tom's ancestor.

    Today’s Goldfinger has three core offerings and a host of rotating seasonals, we’ll talk about it all along with process, and service.

    I’ve been hearing about Goldfinger from several of you listeners for a while now, including Aaron Peterson who says “ His brewery has achieved 'please just take all of our money' status in our household, and his Maibock was one of the best beers I have had in a very long time.”

    Then Ashleigh Carter of Bierstadt Lagerhaus suggested having Tom on, so clearly the time had come.

    This Episode is sponsored by:


    Cigar City Brewing Co.
    Jai Low IPA. Vibrant aromas of nectarine, orange zest, and lime leaf greet the nose, melding seamlessly with peach-like esters and a light, bready malt aroma. Citrus flavors of clementine and tangerine dance on the palate with a snappy bitterness, with bread crust-like malt, and sparkling carbonation providing balance to this moderate-bodied IPA. Lear more at CigarCityBrewing.com

    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp is a proud member of the brewers association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code BEEREDGE15 for 15% off your first order.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guest: Thomas Beckmann
    • Sponsors: Cigar City Brewing, Stomp Stickers, The Craft Brewery Cookbook, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Ownership, Family, Lager, Travel, Equipment, Illinois

    Ep. 140 - Live from Highland Brewing in Asheville, NC Jun 08, 2022
    Show notes

    Show notes from host John Holl


    "In a sign that the world is adapting to the pandemic, beer weeks are back and last week Asheville, North Carolina one of the great beer cities in America celebrated all of its breweries and producers.


    I was fortunate to spend a day in the city capped off by a visit to Highland Brewing, which was founded in 1994 by Oscar Wong. Today the brewery is led by his daughter Leah Wong Ashburn.

    Highland put in the hard work and laid the groundwork for the scene to come and today continues to make flavorful beers and welcome visitors to their expansive taproom and grounds that now feature a volleyball court.

    This discussion was held in the brewery’s barrel room, which opened during the pandemic and hasn’t seen much use. But on this night where pints of Gaelic ale flowed and a crowd gathered to snack on bites from a local food truck, we could forget about the worries of the world for a few minutes and just enjoy some camaraderie.

    I’m joined in hosting duties by Jon Page, he’s my long-time friend, the former managing editor of All About Beer and the photographer for The Craft Brewery Cookbook – which is on sale now – where books are sold.

    This event was billed as a book signing, but I was more eager to hear from Leah and Oscar about the brewery, it’s legacy and future, and the family dynamics.

    We were using hand held mics and as happens sometimes people moved them back and forth, bear with us."


    This Episode is sponsored by:


    Cigar City Brewing Co.
    Have you met Florida Man? It’s a modern Double IPA with a tropical expression from its blend of American hops, including Citra, Azacca, El Dorado, and Mandarina Bavarian, and is balanced by delicate peach esters from a unique Double IPA yeast and a dash of Canadian honey malt. Learn more about the hero of the sunshine by visiting CigarCityBrewing.com

    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp is a proud member of the brewers association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code BEEREDGE15 for 15% off your first order.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and visit All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guests: Oscar Wong, Leah Wong Ashburn, Jon Page
    • Sponsors: Cigar City Brewing, Stomp Stickers, The Craft Brewery Cookbook, All About Beer and The Beer Edge
    • Tags: Beer, Ownership, Family, Volleyball, Amber Ale, Watering holes, North Carolina

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