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    Down Round

    The number one podcast about tech business and culture, from James “JR” Hennessy and Raph Dixon.

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    Spitting In A Tube And Selling It To Private Equity Mar 27, 2025
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    The chickens have come home to roost for 23andme, the consumer genetic testing company which has gone from making people feel nice about being 4% Italian to languishing in bankruptcy. With the vultures circling the carcass, we reflect on its very weird business model and why it should never have gone public.

    Then we talk about Google, which has been cooking on the AI front recently, and how it looks like their overall strategy in that space is coming into focus.

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    Rippling vs Deel Mar 20, 2025
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    HR SaaS is probably the least sexy topic in the world, but fortunately two of the bigger players have made it interesting through bizarre corporate warfare. Rippling has launched a lawsuit against competitor Deel alleging that they placed a spy deep within.

    The saga contains a honey-pot Slack channel, a mole in the top ranks, and trying to flush a phone down a toilet.

    It’s good stuff folks. We get into it.

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    One Weird Trick That Payments Processors HATE! Mar 13, 2025
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    We're back with podcast content after a regrettable interruption last week.

    This ep we've got a stacked deck. First, we are forced by fate to talk about Trump, Elon and Tesla briefly. Then we get into the lawsuit against creator economy platform and OnlyFans lite platform Passes. This gives us an excuse to go on a whirlwind tour of a few things:

    • Scale AI, the AI infrastructure company co-founded by Passes founder Lucy Guo
    • The creator economy, and how that's all going
    • OnlyFans! Yeah, you want to hear all about that, don't you.

    Good to be back on the tools.

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    Content Note Mar 05, 2025
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    Unfortunately due to circumstances within our control we are unable to record an episode this week.

    We promise we'll record a really really extra good one next week.

    Thank you for your patience. Enjoy this AI generated James reading a text message from James.

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    No Such Thing As A Market Correction Feb 27, 2025
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    Tech stocks have been having a rough time since December. The Magnificent Seven, the undisputed kings of the market, have slipped 10% since then — even before the DeepSeek moment.

    But not all are made equal. Meta, for example, is doing basically fine. Apple isn't too terrible. Tesla, on the other hand, has lost 37% of its value since then. In this ep, we discuss the market correction, including a long chat on Tesla and whether its reality distortion field is looking a little shaky.

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    Do You Grok Me? Feb 20, 2025
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    Plenty of tech industry nonsense to chat about this week, folks. Elon Musk is fathering his 13th child (and a new Grok model) and trying to destroy OpenAI. Everyone is trying to match OpenAI's Deep Research with similar products of their own. The markets are back.

    As always, Down Round is here to guide you.

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    Going Deep Feb 13, 2025
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    We got a few requests last week to talk more about OpenAI's Deep Research feature that everyone's been going wild about. We thought it was a good opportunity to return to a topic that we've touched a few times over the past couple of years — what sort of work is being threatened with change by new systems like this?

    In this two parter, we look at Deep Research and the current prospects for automating white collar work with AI.

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    Apple – Charlie XCX (official lyric video) Feb 06, 2025
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    Apple is worth $3.5 trillion. Trillion with a T.

    But all is not necessarily well in Tim Cook's kingdom. iPhone sales are slowing and the Apple Intelligence rollout was unimpressive and underwhelming. Now rumours abound that they are abandoning their rescue mission for their VR and AR ambitions.

    Are Apple floundering? Or just doing things The Apple Way? Who better to discuss than the Down Round boys?

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    DeepSeek Freakout Jan 30, 2025
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    It's fair to say things have been a little crazy this week. Thanks to the drop of Chinese AI lab DeepSeek's beautiful, powerful AI reasoning model, tech stocks took an absolute pounding — producing, in no small part because of Nvidia, the largest individual loss of share market value in American history.

    The freakout wasn't just in markets. AI developers in the US were also going through it. We talked about DeepSeek a little bit last week, but this week we dive into the madness, and spend a bit more time talking about the model itself.

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    January Mania Jan 23, 2025
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    It's not even the end of January and there's already so much crap going on in the world of tech. We're spoiled for choice here. In this two-parter, we're tackling the various stories that have sprung up around the inauguration of Donald Trump — everything from TikTok to meme coins to Project Stargate and Chinese AI.

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