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    Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast

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    On Dwarkesh Patel's Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever Dec 03, 2025
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    Podcast episode for On Dwarkesh Patel’s Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever.

    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:47 - Table of Contents

    * 02:19 - Explaining Model Jaggedness

    * 03:58 - Emotions and value functions

    * 05:36 - What are we scaling?

    * 06:47 - Why humans generalize better than models

    * 08:10 - Straight-shooting superintelligence

    * 09:57 - SSI’s model will learn from deployment

    * 10:59 - Alignment

    * 20:03 - “We are squarely an age of research company”

    * 25:15 - Research taste

    * 27:57 - Bonus Coverage: Dwarkesh Patel on AI Progress These Days

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    Reward Mismatches in RL Cause Emergent Misalignment Dec 02, 2025
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    Podcast episode for Reward Mismatches in RL Cause Emergent Misalignment.

    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 02:53 - Abstract Of The Paper

    * 04:15 - The Problem Statement

    * 06:16 - The Inoculation Solution

    * 08:48 - Cleaning The Data Versus Cleaning The Environments

    * 10:31 - No All Of This Does Not Solve Our Most Important Problems

    * 15:46 - It Does Help On Important Short Term Problems

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    Claude Opus 4.5 Is The Best Model Available Dec 01, 2025
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    Podcast episode for Claude Opus 4.5 Is The Best Model Available.

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    Claude Opus 4.5: Model Card, Alignment and Safety Nov 28, 2025
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    Podcast episode for Claude Opus 4.5: Model Card, Alignment and Safety.

    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:01:50 - Claude Opus 4.5 Basic Facts

    * 00:03:26 - Claude Opus 4.5 Is The Best Model For Many But Not All Use Cases

    * 00:06:02 - Misaligned?

    * 00:09:39 - Section 3: Safeguards and Harmlessness

    * 00:11:46 - Section 4: Honesty

    * 00:13:27 - 5: Agentic Safety

    * 00:21:01 - Section 6: Alignment Overview

    * 00:29:55 - Alignment Investigations

    * 00:30:35 - Sycophancy Course Correction Is Lacking

    * 00:31:52 - Deception

    * 00:34:29 - Ruling Out Encoded Content In Chain Of Thought

    * 00:37:19 - Sandbagging

    * 00:38:10 - Evaluation Awareness

    * 00:42:18 - Reward Hacking

    * 00:43:59 - Subversion Strategy

    * 00:45:30 - 6.13: UK AISI External Testing

    * 00:45:39 - 6.14: Model Welfare

    * 00:46:33 - 7: RSP Evaluations

    * 00:48:12 - CBRN

    * 00:56:36 - Autonomy

    * 01:04:27 - Cyber

    * 01:10:32 - The Whisperers Love The Vibes

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    AI #144: Thanks For the Models Nov 27, 2025
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    Podcast episode for AI #144: Thanks For the Models.

    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:02:24 - Table of Contents

    * 00:05:21 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:05:50 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:06:17 - Huh, Upgrades

    * 00:09:02 - On Your Marks

    * 00:10:53 - Choose Your Fighter

    * 00:11:21 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon

    * 00:19:03 - What Is Slop? How Do You Define Slop?

    * 00:22:13 - Fun With Media Generation

    * 00:26:57 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer

    * 00:29:16 - You Drive Me Crazy

    * 00:33:48 - They Took Our Jobs

    * 00:34:10 - Think Of The Time I Saved

    * 00:37:48 - The Art of the Jailbreak

    * 00:39:01 - Get Involved

    * 00:39:35 - Introducing

    * 00:40:18 - In Other AI News

    * 00:43:16 - Show Me the Money

    * 00:45:25 - Quiet Speculations

    * 00:48:12 - Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble

    * 00:51:00 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 01:02:06 - Chip City

    * 01:03:19 - Water Water Everywhere

    * 01:04:45 - The Week in Audio

    * 01:06:38 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 01:12:33 - You Are Not In Control

    * 01:17:36 - AI 2030

    * 01:28:18 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult

    * 01:30:58 - Misaligned?

    * 01:34:01 - Messages From Janusworld

    * 01:36:09 - The Lighter Side

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    The Big Nonprofits Post 2025 Nov 26, 2025
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    Podcast episode for The Big Nonprofits Post 2025.

    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:01:46 - Table of Contents

    * 00:08:23 - A Word of Warning

    * 00:09:40 - A Note To Charities

    * 00:10:44 - Use Your Personal Theory of Impact

    * 00:12:34 - Use Your Local Knowledge

    * 00:13:39 - Unconditional Grants to Worthy Individuals Are Great

    * 00:16:11 - Do Not Think Only On the Margin, and Also Use Decision Theory

    * 00:17:15 - Compare Notes With Those Individuals You Trust

    * 00:17:47 - Beware Becoming a Fundraising Target

    * 00:18:13 - And the Nominees Are

    * 00:22:03 - Organizations that Are Literally Me

    * 00:22:15 - Balsa Research

    * 00:25:08 - Don’t Worry About the Vase

    * 00:26:41 - Organizations Focusing On AI Non-Technical Research and Education

    * 00:27:13 - Lightcone Infrastructure

    * 00:29:49 - The AI Futures Project

    * 00:31:31 - Effective Institutions Project (EIP) (For Their Flagship Initiatives)

    * 00:33:13 - Artificial Intelligence Policy Institute (AIPI)

    * 00:34:50 - AI Lab Watch

    * 00:35:55 - Palisade Research

    * 00:37:02 - CivAI

    * 00:37:50 - AI Safety Info (Robert Miles)

    * 00:38:31 - Intelligence Rising

    * 00:39:18 - Convergence Analysis

    * 00:40:12 - IASEAI (International Association for Safe and Ethical Artificial Intelligence)

    * 00:40:53 - The AI Whistleblower Initiative

    * 00:41:33 - Organizations Related To Potentially Pausing AI Or Otherwise Having A Strong International AI Treaty

    * 00:41:41 - Pause AI and Pause AI Global

    * 00:43:03 - MIRI

    * 00:44:19 - Existential Risk Observatory

    * 00:45:16 - Organizations Focusing Primary On AI Policy and Diplomacy

    * 00:45:55 - Center for AI Safety and the CAIS Action Fund

    * 00:47:31 - Foundation for American Innovation (FAI)

    * 00:50:29 - Encode AI (Formerly Encode Justice)

    * 00:51:31 - The Future Society

    * 00:52:23 - Safer AI

    * 00:52:59 - Institute for AI Policy and Strategy (IAPS)

    * 00:54:08 - AI Standards Lab (Holtman Research)

    * 00:55:14 - Safe AI Forum

    * 00:55:49 - Center For Long Term Resilience

    * 00:57:33 - Simon Institute for Longterm Governance

    * 00:58:30 - Legal Advocacy for Safe Science and Technology

    * 00:59:42 - Institute for Law and AI

    * 01:00:21 - Macrostrategy Research Institute

    * 01:00:51 - Secure AI Project

    * 01:01:29 - Organizations Doing ML Alignment Research

    * 01:02:49 - Model Evaluation and Threat Research (METR)

    * 01:04:13 - Alignment Research Center (ARC)

    * 01:04:51 - Apollo Research

    * 01:05:43 - Cybersecurity Lab at University of Louisville

    * 01:06:22 - Timaeus

    * 01:07:25 - Simplex

    * 01:07:54 - Far AI

    * 01:08:28 - Alignment in Complex Systems Research Group

    * 01:09:10 - Apart Research

    * 01:10:15 - Transluce

    * 01:11:21 - Organizations Doing Other Technical Work

    * 01:11:24 - AI Analysts at RAND

    * 01:12:17 - Organizations Doing Math, Decision Theory and Agent Foundations

    * 01:13:39 - Orthogonal

    * 01:14:28 - Topos Institute

    * 01:15:24 - Eisenstat Research

    * 01:16:02 - AFFINE Algorithm Design

    * 01:16:25 - CORAL (Computational Rational Agents Laboratory)

    * 01:17:15 - Mathematical Metaphysics Institute

    * 01:18:21 - Focal at CMU

    * 01:19:41 - Organizations Doing Cool Other Stuff Including Tech

    * 01:19:50 - ALLFED

    * 01:21:33 - Good Ancestor Foundation

    * 01:22:56 - Charter Cities Institute

    * 01:23:45 - Carbon Copies for Independent Minds

    * 01:24:24 - Organizations Focused Primarily on Bio Risk

    * 01:24:27 - Secure DNA

    * 01:25:21 - Blueprint Biosecurity

    * 01:26:06 - Pour Domain

    * 01:26:53 - ALTER Israel

    * 01:27:25 - Organizations That Can Advise You Further

    * 01:28:03 - Effective Institutions Project (EIP) (As A Donation Advisor)

    * 01:29:08 - Longview Philanthropy

    * 01:30:44 - Organizations That then Regrant to Fund Other Organizations

    * 01:32:00 - SFF Itself (!)

    * 01:33:33 - Manifund

    * 01:35:33 - AI Risk Mitigation Fund

    * 01:36:18 - Long Term Future Fund

    * 01:38:27 - Foresight

    * 01:39:14 - Centre for Enabling Effective Altruism Learning & Research (CEELAR)

    * 01:40:08 - Organizations That are Essentially Talent Funnels

    * 01:42:08 - AI Safety Camp

    * 01:42:48 - Center for Law and AI Risk

    * 01:43:52 - Speculative Technologies

    * 01:44:44 - Talos Network

    * 01:45:28 - MATS Research

    * 01:46:12 - Epistea

    * 01:47:18 - Emergent Ventures

    * 01:49:02 - AI Safety Cape Town

    * 01:49:33 - ILINA Program

    * 01:49:55 - Impact Academy Limited

    * 01:50:28 - Atlas Computing

    * 01:51:08 - Principles of Intelligence (Formerly PIBBSS)

    * 01:52:00 - Tarbell Center

    * 01:53:15 - Catalyze Impact

    * 01:54:15 - CeSIA within EffiSciences

    * 01:55:04 - Stanford Existential Risk Initiative (SERI)

    * 01:55:49 - Non-Trivial

    * 01:56:19 - CFAR

    * 01:57:25 - The Bramble Center

    * 01:58:20 - Final Reminders

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    ChatGPT 5.1 Codex Max Nov 25, 2025
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    Podcast episdoe for ChatGPT 5.1 Codex Max.

    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:09 - The Famous METR Graph

    * 03:07 - The System Card

    * 04:04 - Basic Disallowed Content

    * 05:07 - Sandbox

    * 06:25 - Mitigations For Harmful Tasks and Prompt Injections

    * 07:06 - Preparedness Framework

    * 07:28 - Biological and Chemical

    * 08:40 - Cybersecurity

    * 14:24 - AI Self-Improvement

    * 17:17 - Reactions

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    Gemini 3 Pro Is a Vast Intelligence With No Spine Nov 24, 2025
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    Podcast episode for Gemini 3 Pro Is a Vast Intelligence With No Spine.

    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:01:53 - There Is A Catch

    * 00:03:35 - Andrej Karpathy Cautions Us

    * 00:04:59 - On Your Marks

    * 00:17:01 - Defying Gravity

    * 00:18:32 - The Efficient Market Hypothesis Is False

    * 00:21:12 - The Product Of A Deranged Imagination

    * 00:25:44 - Google Employee Hype

    * 00:29:24 - Matt Shumer Is A Big Fan

    * 00:30:23 - Roon Eventually Gains Access

    * 00:30:43 - The Every Vibecheck

    * 00:32:07 - Positive Reactions

    * 00:38:09 - Embedding The App

    * 00:38:26 - The Good, The Bad and The Unwillingness To Be Ugly

    * 00:42:12 - Genuine People Personalities

    * 00:43:52 - Game Recognize Game

    * 00:45:41 - Negative Reactions

    * 00:49:31 - Code Fails

    * 00:50:29 - Hallucinations

    * 00:57:44 - Early Janusworld Reports

    * 01:02:26 - Where Do We Go From Here

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    Gemini 3: Model Card and Safety Framework Report Nov 21, 2025
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    Podcast episode for Gemini 3: Model Card and Safety Framework Report.

    * 00:00 - Introduction

    * 01:31 - Gemini 3 Facts

    * 02:38 - On Your Marks

    * 03:54 - Safety Third

    * 06:05 - Frontier Safety Framework

    * 06:57 - CBRN

    * 10:13 - Cybersecurity

    * 11:51 - Manipulation

    * 17:42 - Machine Learning R&D

    * 20:14 - Misalignment

    * 23:07 - Chain of Thought Legibility

    * 23:26 - Safety Mitigations

    * 26:02 - They Close On This Not Troubling At All Note

    * 27:03 - So, Is It Safe?

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    AI #143: Everything, Everywhere, All At Once Nov 20, 2025
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    Podcast episode for AI #143: Everything, Everywhere, All At Once.

    * 00:00:00 - Introduction

    * 00:01:47 - Table of Contents

    * 00:06:02 - Language Models Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:06:58 - Tool, Mind and Weapon

    * 00:11:16 - Choose Your Fighter

    * 00:11:39 - Language Models Don’t Offer Mundane Utility

    * 00:16:07 - First Things First

    * 00:16:44 - Grok 4.1

    * 00:20:37 - Misaligned?

    * 00:24:10 - Codex Of Ultimate Coding

    * 00:26:41 - Huh, Upgrades

    * 00:27:07 - On Your Marks

    * 00:28:15 - Paper Tigers

    * 00:33:13 - Overcoming Bias

    * 00:38:40 - Deepfaketown and Botpocalypse Soon

    * 00:39:15 - Fun With Media Generation

    * 00:41:28 - A Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer

    * 00:46:40 - They Took Our Jobs

    * 00:53:01 - On Not Writing

    * 00:53:27 - Get Involved

    * 00:54:20 - Introducing

    * 00:57:09 - In Other AI News

    * 01:01:22 - Anthropic Completes The Trifecta

    * 01:03:07 - We Must Protect This House

    * 01:08:14 - AI Spy Versus AI Spy

    * 01:14:32 - Show Me the Money

    * 01:17:30 - Bubble, Bubble, Toil and Trouble

    * 01:21:13 - Quiet Speculations

    * 01:22:15 - The Amazing Race

    * 01:27:39 - Of Course You Realize This Means War (One)

    * 01:31:33 - The Quest for Sane Regulations

    * 01:34:10 - Chip City

    * 01:35:03 - Of Course You Realize This Means War (Two)

    * 01:40:50 - Samuel Hammond on Preemption

    * 01:47:33 - Of Course You Realize This Means War (Three)

    * 01:55:53 - The Week in Audio

    * 01:56:51 - It Takes A Village

    * 01:57:34 - Rhetorical Innovation

    * 02:00:49 - Varieties of Doom

    * 02:01:57 - The Pope Offers Wisdom

    * 02:03:42 - Aligning a Smarter Than Human Intelligence is Difficult

    * 02:06:04 - Messages From Janusworld

    * 02:13:43 - The Lighter Side

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