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    Dev Interrupted

    Software itself is fundamentally changing. We explore the transition to agentic orchestration, vibe coding, and AI-native development, grounding the conversation in the principles that have always defined great engineering.

    On Tuesdays, we interview the founders, architects, and builders of the world’s most impactful tech to uncover the timeless engineering principles and strategies shaping the next era of development.

    And on Fridays, we drop an end-of-week roundup of the biggest news in AI and software, and what it actually means for your career, your craft, and your life as a developer.

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    The Subversive Structure of the World's Best-Performing Dev Teams w/ A Radical Enterprise Author Matt K. Parker Apr 16, 2022
    Show notes

    You ever get the feeling that the way most companies are set up doesn’t really make sense?

    That the passion you have for coding and tech gets sucked out when you do it for a business, instead of it being amplified?

    Matt K. Parker had that realization… hard.

    A third-generation programmer, Matt’s epiphany that there was something wrong with the way the majority of the world sets up its teams and workplaces led him on a journey to explore the way the world’s best companies operate.

    After diving into case studies, academic research and leveraging his own professional experience, Matt concluded that the most productive companies all had one thing in common: They were radical.

    Radical in how they structure their employees. Radical in how they treat their employees. Radical in how they empower their employees.

    Fortunately for us, Matt stopped by Dev Interrupted to share some conclusions from his new book “A Radical Enterprise: Pioneering the Future of High-Performing Organizations.”

    One of our favorite recordings to date, this is your ticket if you’re looking for some inspiration on how to increase productivity while decreasing BS.

    Matt's book:
    A Radical Enterprise: Pioneering the Future of High-Performing Organizations

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    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    How to Fix Tech's Mentorship Problem w/ Amex's VP of Technology, Sarvenaz Myslicki Apr 09, 2022
    Show notes

    If you looked up the term “firing on all cylinders” in the dictionary, I’m fairly confident there would be a picture of Sarvenaz Myslicki next to it.

    A next-gen leader who earned the role of VP of Technology at American Express by the age of 30, Savernaz is a published author, an in-demand thought-leader on mentorship and has one of the largest followings on programmer TikTok.

    Our favorite thing about Sarvenaz, though, is that all her work is aspirational but radically inclusive. She tailors her message, content and guidance based on wherever someone is in their professional journey – even if they’re just tinkering with code in a junior high classroom.

    Sarvenaz joined us and 1700 other engineering leaders for an incredible live conversation at our INTERACT conference about the real trial and errors that have led to her role at Amex, as well as the beliefs, mindset and rituals that have allowed her to become a mentor for developers she’s never met.

    We hope you enjoy this discussion as much as we did.

    AMEX is hiring: americanexpress.com/techcareers
    Sarvenaz's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sarvenazm
    What Sarvenaz is reading: Bury My Heart at Conference Room B: The Unbeatable Impact of Truly Committed Managers
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
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    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
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    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    How Promotions Ruin Dev Careers w/ Shopify's Dir. of Engineering James Stanier Apr 02, 2022
    Show notes

    In so many professions, the reward for exceptional work is a promotion to management. Unfortunately, for developers whose programming gets them singled out for promotion, the skills to manage a team have nothing to do with the work that got them recognized in the first place.

    James Stanier, Director of Engineering at Shopify, understands the pitfalls of being promoted from an IC to an engineering manager, and began writing as a way to think through the mistakes he himself was making.

    Today, James is an accomplished author; his first book Become An Effective Software Engineering Manager debuted in 2020, and his second book Effective Remote Work was published earlier this year.

    On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, James talks about how developers can prepare themselves for a role in management, or alternatively, why they should avoid a career in management altogether. He also discusses why Shopify loves remote pair programming, how to find your voice as a developer and why writing a book can be a spiritual experience.

    Don't miss your chance to register for INTERACT on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    James is the author of two books:

    • Effective Remote Work
    • Become An Effective Software Engineering Manager


    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
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    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    What The Next 20 Million Devs Want w/ Tiff in Tech & Stereotype Breakers' Masha Zvereva Mar 26, 2022
    Show notes

    The world is shortly going to need another 20 million developers and with over 1,000 engineering leaders joining us for INTERACT on April 7th, there’s no better time to talk to two people who have captured the minds of millions of developers - and will be featured at INTERACT - Tiffany Janzen and Masha Zvereva.

    In addition to their own tech careers, both women have become prominent voices in the dev community, Tiffany is most well-known for her Tiff in Tech Youtube channel and Masha for her company Stereotype Breakers.

    Tiff and Masha spend their time connecting, communicating and inspiring the next generation of devs. They’re the ideal experts to dive deep on how Gen Z devs think and what they want.

    That’s why we were so happy when they agreed to sit down for an episode of Dev Interrupted to give us some incredible insights on what it’s going to take to recruit, hire and retain the millions of new developers who are joining the workforce.

    If you want to join Tiffany and Masha at INTERACT on April 7th, it’s easy: Just register at https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    See you there!

    Tiff in Tech

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TiffInTech/featured
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffintech/?hl=en
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tiffintech?lang=en

    Masha Zvereva, Stereotype Breakers

    • Website: https://www.stereotypebreakers.com/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stereotypebreakers/?hl=en
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/StereotypeBreakers/featured

    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
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    Have 60 seconds?
    Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    Is Your Dev Team TOO Big to Succeed? w/ SAIC’s Bob Ritchie Mar 19, 2022
    Show notes

    Modern problems require modern solutions, right?

    The problem is, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand what solutions are required for a given problem and even harder to task a team with finding them.

    That’s why Bob Ritchie, VP of Software at SAIC, thinks the top-down management model is dead. To replace it, Bob is championing a “team of teams” model that provides his developers with far more autonomy - so much, in fact, that they can even self-elect their leaders.

    On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Bob discusses the challenges of software development in an increasingly dynamic environment, why he believes developers should be no further than 4 steps away from their CEO and the historical challenges of connecting results in Silicon Valley to those in the federal government.

    Who would've expected a federal government tech integrator (Science Applications International Corporation), to be on the leading edge of developer autonomy?

    Learn more about our INTERACT conference on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    SAIC is hiring: https://jobs.saic.com/
    Bob's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-ritchie-896a654/
    What Bob is reading: Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
    Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
    Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    What Devs Need To Teach CEOs About AI w/ Lexion’s Emad Elwany Mar 12, 2022
    Show notes

    For decades Artificial Intelligence has been a focus of best-selling science fiction authors and an antagonist for blockbuster Hollywood movies. But AI is no longer relegated to the realm of science fiction, it inhabits the world around us. From the biggest enterprise companies to plucky startups, businesses everywhere are building and deploying AI at incredible speed.

    In fact, open source allows anyone with a laptop to build impressively good AI models in a day.

    But for all the recent advances in AI, what are its limitations? And if you are a developer or business leader, what use cases can AI solve for your company?

    In this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Emad Elwany, CTO and Co-founder of Lexion, walks us through the practical realities of AI in today’s world and how its constraints apply to your business. He also discusses the biggest breakthroughs in AI, how to build machine learning models that actually solve a business need and why it’s almost impossible to retrofit AI once it’s already built.

    Whether you are a business leader who is considering implementing AI at their company, a consumer curious about how AI impacts your daily life or a researcher wanting to understand how to better deploy AI outside of the lab - this episode has got something for you!

    Learn more about our INTERACT conference on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    Lexion is hiring: https://www.lexion.ai/careers
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
    Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
    Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    How to Reclaim Your Dev Team’s Focus w/ Ambassador Labs' Katie Wilde Mar 05, 2022
    Show notes

    Hate interruptions? Ever feel like you’ve lost your ability to focus on coding?

    Katie Wilde, VP of Engineering at Ambassador Labs, knows your pain and she’s on a crusade to help devs everywhere reclaim their focus.

    Spoiler: She's got a message for managers who can’t meet with devs whenever they want: “Don’t like it? Well, suck it up.”

    The thing about productivity is, you can’t have it both ways. You can either protect your devs’ ability to focus by providing them meaningful time for creativity or you can call them into meetings all day long for constant feedback - but you can’t have both.

    These concepts don’t have to be at odds with each other, though. On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Katie details exactly what managers can do to foster a harmonious, productive environment between themselves and their devs. She also talks about the importance of “shifting left,” the dangers of doing it too quickly, and why “hiring great people and getting out of their way” may not be a good mantra.

    Learn more about our INTERACT conference on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    Ambassador Labs is hiring: https://www.getambassador.io/
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
    Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
    Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    What If You Don't Want To Be a Developer Anymore? w/ CTO Connection's Peter Bell Feb 26, 2022
    Show notes

    It used to be that in order to make your parents proud you had to go into management. Then along came the self-contained IC career path. Today, this dual-track career path remains the unchallenged standard of companies everywhere.

    Or does it?

    Peter Bell, the founder and CTO of CTO Connection, wants developers everywhere to know that there are several dev adjacent career paths. From product to dev advocate to sales engineer, Peter has the insights you need if you’ve ever considered switching up your career while utilizing your hard-earned skills as a developer.

    If you're an engineering leader, then Peter’s advice on the importance of building a community at your company is not to be missed. Through his work with CTO Connection, engineering leaders everywhere have found a community to call home - and a resource to leverage. In fact, CTO Connection bills itself as the “Stack Overflow for managers.”

    Peter is a gifted speaker and presenter, you won’t want to miss this episode!

    Learn more about our INTERACT conference on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    CTO Connection website: https://www.ctoconnection.com/
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
    Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
    Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    Why Imperfect Data Isn’t Just Bad, It’s Harmful w/ Treeverse’s Einat Orr Feb 19, 2022
    Show notes

    Data junkies rejoice, this is the episode for you.

    On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Einat Orr, co-founder and CEO of Treeverse, sits down with us to talk about the state of data… where it’s been, where it’s going and why having bad data might be worse than having no data at all.

    Einat's path to becoming a CEO is different from many of the folks who come on the podcast. After graduating with a PhD in mathematics, she spent much of her career as a CTO due to her extraordinary technical expertise. But things changed when Einat and her cofounder asked themselves a simple question: if code has Git, why doesn’t data have a “Git-equivalent”?

    Their exploration of this question inspired Treeverse. In a technical deepdive, Einat walks Dev Interrupted’s executive producer Conor Bronsdon through the founding story of Treeverse, why data needs its own version of Git, the specifics of data warehouses & data versioning, and what the future of data storage looks like.

    Put on your thinking caps and enjoy!
    Learn more about our INTERACT conference on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    Treeverse's website: https://treeverse.io/
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
    Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
    Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

    How a $725M VC Judges Your Engineering Team w/ Redpoint Ventures' Jason Warner Feb 12, 2022
    Show notes

    How does a former-CTO-turned-VC assess companies now that they're the one with the money? What do they look for - and expect to find - in a company’s engineering team?
    Enter Jason Warner on the Dev Interrupted stage.
    Jason is the most unique of investors: He made the jump from being a CTO to managing his own $725M fund at Redpoint Ventures. After leading GitHub to one of the best exits in the history of Silicon Valley, Jason is now dedicating his full time to picking the tech, teams and products he thinks will define the next decade and beyond.
    In this freewheeling conversation, we cover everything from Jason’s start in tech carrying boxes while interning at IBM, his tenure as GitHub’s CTO, the reason full stack engineers may be a dying breed and why Redpoint Ventures avoids “yoloing” investments, even if it’s a lucrative practice.
    We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did.
    Learn more about our INTERACT conference on April, 7th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

    Repoint Ventures' website: https://www.redpoint.com/
    Jason's Twitter: https://bit.ly/35WhGrV
    Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterrupted
    Our Website ►► devinterrupted.com/
    Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.
    Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple Podcasts

    OFFERS

    • Start Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.
    • Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.

    LEARN ABOUT LINEARB

    • AI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.
    • AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
    • AI-Powered Workflow Automations: Use AI-generated PR descriptions, smart routing, and other automations to reduce developer toil.
    • MCP Server: Interact with your engineering data using natural language to build custom reports and get answers on the fly.

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