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    Deconstructor of Fun

    Deconstructor of Fun podcast is created by games professionals for games professionals. We explore the business side of the games industry with the goal of bringing listeners content that is relevant, insightful, and entertaining on a weekly basis.

    Hosts:
    Michail Katkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/
    Eric Kress www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/
    Phillip Black www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-economist/
    Jen Donahoe www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdonahoe

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    266. Money, Markets & Disruptive Trends – Xsolla’s Chris Hewish Jan 29, 2025
    Show notes

    Xsolla State of Play report:

    https://xsolla.com/newsroom/xsolla-autumn-2024-report

    Mobile gaming is bigger than ever, with the industry set to hit $98.7 billion in 2024. But where is that growth coming from? In this episode, we sit down with Xsolla’s Chris Hewish to break down the key trends shaping the global market—from Asia’s dominance to the rise of emerging regions like Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East.

    We also dig into how player demographics are shifting and what it means for game makers. With diversity becoming a bigger focus, studios are rethinking how they engage and design for an increasingly varied audience.


    Chris unpacks the impact of the Digital Markets Act (DMA), explaining how developers are navigating new monetization opportunities beyond traditional app stores. We also tackle the surge of direct-to-consumer web shops, how gaming is merging with mainstream entertainment (yes, we’re looking at you, Secret Level), and what all of this means for the future of the industry.

    If you want to stay ahead of where mobile gaming is headed, this episode is a must-listen.



    265. How do Playtika and Wooga nail their Live Ops strategies? Jan 27, 2025
    Show notes

    How do Playtika and Wooga nail their Live Ops strategies? What does GameRefinery say you’re missing?

    In this episode, Nadav Moshes (Product & Market Insights Lead at Playtika), Maxime Graux (Head of Product Management at Wooga), and Erno Kiiski (Chief Game Analyst at GameRefinery) sit down with our very own Jen Donahoe to dissect the art and science of Live Ops.

    From mobile to PC/console gaming, we break down the latest trends driving social, engagement, and monetization events. Discover how understanding player motivations is the key to creating better events and why a holistic event framework is critical to your Live Ops success.

    We dive into practical strategies around segmentation, iteration, and gamified offers to level up engagement and boost your monetization. Whether you’re building your Live Ops muscle or refining your existing strategy, this episode is packed with actionable insights for every game developer.

    01:05 Meet the Experts: Nadav, Max, and Erno

    07:36 Social LiveOps: Trends and Examples

    12:31 Monopoly Go's Collaborative and Competitive Events

    15:02 June's Journey: Social Features and Player Motivations

    25:11 Engagement LiveOps: Long-Term and Short-Term Events

    33:07 The Importance of Long-Term Engagement

    36:40 Short-Term Collection Mechanics

    38:15 Multi-Stage Mission Events

    43:19 Advanced Segmentation in LiveOps

    49:54 Challenges in Testing and Iteration

    51:19 Monetization Strategies and Bundle Offers

    01:01:50 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways


    TWIG #315 TikTok Ban and Matthew Ball's State of the Market Report Jan 24, 2025
    Show notes

    TikTok’s gaming experiment closures and Marvel Snap’s China operations highlight the challenges of scaling global hits. Netflix’s games strategy is dissected, alongside surprising trends like the resurgence of Solitaire, which seems to be tapping into the nostalgia economy.

    The discussion turns heavier as the team unpacks sweeping workforce cuts at Huuuge Games and the growing dominance of Chinese game developers on the global stage. Bonfire Studios’ new game announcement and Matthew Ball’s analysis of gaming’s shifting market dynamics provide fresh perspectives on innovation and competition.

    01:13 TV Show Marketing
    02:49 Marketing Strategy Debate
    06:14 Shills
    10:19 Nintendo Switch 2 Leaks
    12:56 TikTok and Marvel Snap Shutdowns
    16:36 Industry Moves and New Roles
    19:44 Netflix Games Strategy
    21:36 Solitaire Making a Comeback??
    31:31 Bonfire Studios’ New Game
    34:36 Huge Games Workforce Cuts
    35:28 Matthew Ball’s Market Analysis
    47:12 The Rise of Chinese Game Developers
    49:57 The Cost of Game Development
    58:02 Future Growth Levers in Gaming


    264. Breaking Barriers: The Journey of a Next-Gen Game Developer Alexandra Takei Jan 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Jen Donahoe sits down with Alexandra Takei, a rising star who’s making waves in the gaming industry.

    They dive into what it takes to bridge the gap between business and creativity in gaming, the hard-earned lessons from startups, and how proactive collaboration can drive innovation.

    Alexandra discusses empathy and mentorship's critical role in her career and shares advice for those navigating the fast-paced gaming ecosystem.

    01:04 About Alex Takei
    03:43 Early Career and Entry into Gaming
    10:30 Blizzard Experience and Mentorship
    23:51 PJourney to Content Creation
    29:11 Venture Capital and Bitcraft
    34:51 Understanding Game Complexity and Business Models
    35:32 The Importance of Team Inclusivity
    36:27 Challenges of Pitching and Raising Money
    37:14 Navigating Game Development Constraints
    38:14 Startup Dynamics vs. Big Companies
    39:20 Wearing Multiple Hats in a Startup
    42:20 Empathy and Flexibility in Leadership
    50:55 The Role of Mentorship
    57:52 Final Advice for Aspiring Professionals
    01:00:57 Alex's Sign-Off


    gaming industry, podcasting, venture capital, Blizzard, mentorship, career journey, game development, business strategy, content creation, women in gaming, gaming, business, empathy, mentorship, startups, game development, career advice, leadership, women in gaming, entrepreneurship


    TWIG #314 Market Predictions, Nintendo Leaks and an Award Ceremony Jan 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Join us at PGC After Dark: ⁠https://lu.ma/m75avtgb⁠

    This week’s TWIG episode starts with bold predictions for 2025 in mobile gaming, followed by Eric Kress’s half-hearted backtracking on hyper-casual games and the latest Nintendo Switch 2 leaks before deep diving into Marvel Rivals’ potential impact.

    The team revisits the year’s most significant moments, explores standout moments, and wraps up with listener feedback and reflections.


    00:00 Squad Intros
    01:28 California Wildfires + How to Help
    03:18 Shills
    05:34 Predictions for 2025 in Mobile
    09:44 Corrections and Hyper Casual Talk
    14:06 Nintendo Switch 2 Leaks
    16:05 Investments and Funding News
    20:15 Marvel Rivals
    34:10 Talk of the Year: Mass Layoffs
    34:53 Embarrassing Predictions
    35:58 Company Damage: Ubisoft's Downfall
    37:04 Most Disappointing Game
    40:36 Financial Success: Mice Nuts
    42:32 Questionable Moves
    47:46 Brilliant Moves
    50:35 Crushing It: Brawl Stars
    53:13 Layoff Lowlights
    53:43 Limping Donkey Award
    55:20 Listener Feedback and Wrap-Up


    263. From Failures to Funding: Strategic Moves Founders Should Know with Joe Wadakethalakal, CEO of PvX Partners Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    CEO and co-founder of PvX Partners (www.pvxpartners.com), Joe Wadakethalakal shares his unique journey from India to Indonesia and beyond. Key takeaways from our chat with Joe Wadakethalakal:**Resilience matters**: Entrepreneurship is brutal—Joe’s journey shows how surviving failures and tough times builds long-term success.**Market size over Network**: Starting in large, scalable markets (U.S., India, China) beats hustling in smaller ones. Lesson learned the hard way.**Smart fundraising wins**: Raising capital isn’t just about money—it’s about unlocking talent, momentum, and strategic growth. Just don’t overdo it!Chapters:00:00 Intro 05:53 Banking and Private Equity Experience12:28 Challenges and Lessons Learned18:53 Joining MPL and Strategic Growth49:20 The Importance of Capital in Startups54:10 Leaving MPL and Starting PVX01:00:48 PVX's Unique Approach to UA Financing01:19:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts















    🏆 The 2024 Golden TWIG Awards: an Unfiltered Gaming Industry Award Show Jan 10, 2025
    Show notes

    CAST YOUR VOTE!

    https://forms.gle/BfBn6H123S2D1QdY9

    Brace yourself for the most candid awards show in gaming! Join us as we dissect the highs and lows of 2024, dishing out Golden TWIGs for the year’s most memorable moments. From epic fails to surprising triumphs, we’re covering it all:

    • Company Carnage: Who took the biggest hits?
    • Gaming Letdowns: Which hyped title fell flat?
    • Layoff Lowlights: The most brutal workforce cuts
    • Oops, We Did It Again: Our most embarrassing predictions

    Get ready for unvarnished opinions, heated debates, and a no-holds-barred look at the gaming industry’s rollercoaster year.

    Don’t miss this annual tradition where you separate the gold from the garbage!


    262. The Secret Sauce of 🇫🇷 French Game Publishers with Vincent Février, CMO of TapNation Jan 07, 2025
    Show notes

    The Hybridcasual Playbookhttps://metahybridcasualplaybook.splashthat.com/

    In this episode of the Deconstructor of Fun podcast, Mishka Katkoff interviews Vincent Fevrier, CMO of Tap Nation, discussing the evolution of hybrid casual games and the unique position of French publishers in the gaming industry.

    They explore Tap Nation's growth from a startup to a mid-size publisher, the challenges of transitioning from hypercasual to hybrid casual, and the importance of user acquisition and marketing strategies.

    The conversation also delves into acquisition strategies, building internal capabilities for live operations, and the future outlook for the gaming industry.

    Chapters

    00:00 The Rise of Hypercasual Gaming in France

    02:52 Tap Nation's Evolution: From Hypercasual to Hybrid Casual

    06:04 Navigating Challenges in a Post-COVID Gaming Landscape

    08:54 Marketing Strategies: LTV vs. CAC in Hybrid Casual

    12:04 Acquisition Strategies: Building a Portfolio of Games

    14:56 Operational Changes: Adapting to Hybrid Casual Dynamics

    17:51 Building Internal Capabilities for Game Development

    21:00 The Future of Tap Nation: Diversifying Game Types

    24:07 Competing in a Crowded Market: Finding Unique Assets

    32:25 The Competitive Landscape of Game Publishing

    35:11 Building Relationships in the Gaming Industry

    39:11 Navigating Acquisitions and Partnerships

    44:17 The Evolution of Tapnation and Its Strategies

    50:43 Industry Outlook: Challenges and Opportunities

    keywords

    hypercasual, hybrid casual, gaming industry, Tap Nation, ad tech, game development, user acquisition, monetization strategies, French gaming market, game publishing, game publishing, acquisitions, industry trends, mobile gaming, Tapnation, partnerships, user acquisition, market growth, gaming industry, competitive landscape


    261. Climbing to the C-Suite: Insights from Mission One's Gerard Miles Dec 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Michail Katkoff and Gerard Miles dive into the nuances of executive headhunting, exploring the role of headhunters, pathways to the C-suite, and the significance of personal branding and mentorship in career growth. They share insights on how candidates can position themselves for leadership roles and embrace strategic thinking to thrive in a competitive hiring landscape.

    The discussion also highlights common mistakes in the executive search process, the importance of empathy in interviews, and the value of building genuine relationships. They address the challenges and advantages of international relocation, as well as the growing role of AI in hiring, stressing the need for candidates to be prepared and deeply engaged throughout the process.


    00:00 Introduction to Executive Headhunting

    01:00 Understanding the Role of an Executive Headhunter

    10:41 Navigating the C-Suite: Pathways to Leadership

    20:36 Building Your Personal Brand for Executive Roles

    27:32 The Importance of Mentorship in Career Growth

    37:59 Common Mistakes in Executive Search

    44:40 Empathy in the Interview Process

    51:40 Building Relationships in Recruitment

    57:38 Challenges and Benefits of International Relocation

    01:10:48 The Rise of AI in Executive Hiring


    keywords: executive headhunting, C-suite, leadership, personal brand, mentorship, career growth, talent acquisition, strategic thinking, networking, hiring process, executive search, interview preparation, candidate experience, recruitment process, international relocation, AI in hiring, empathy in interviews, building relationships, hiring mistakes, talent acquisition



    TWiG Bonus Episode: Holiday Special (UEFN, Royal Kingdom, and the Steam race) Dec 27, 2024
    Show notes

    No agenda? No problem! Ethan returns from UEFN dormancy to break some exciting news. Jen sells a BMW, while Eric tries to sell a Roblox correction. The Puzzle Queen herself ascends to browbeat Royale Kingdom into better KPIs, and Phil shares pictures of his cat in a banana.


    01:17 Holiday Reflections and Family Updates
    03:03 Good News, Bad News
    04:01 Parenting Challenges and Teenage Years
    06:23 Podcast Banter and Personal Stories
    08:29 Cat Updates and Car Stories
    12:50 Seattle Winter and Personal Updates
    14:22 Startup Exit and GameFam
    15:09 Roblox and UEFN Discussion
    29:03 The Evolution of Fortnite's Algorithm
    29:17 Challenges with Limited Analytics
    30:27 Licensed Content and Revenue Sharing
    31:45 The Future of Survival Crafting Games
    33:21 Comparing Royal Kingdom and Royal Match
    35:13 Analyzing Game Revenue Trends
    37:06 Predictions for 2025 Gaming Trends
    39:22 Golden Twig Awards Recap
    53:21 Handheld Gaming Innovations
    55:25 Holiday Wishes and Final Thoughts


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