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    Deconstructor of Fun

    Deconstructor of Fun podcast is created by games professionals for games professionals. We explore the business side of the games industry with the goal of bringing listeners content that is relevant, insightful, and entertaining on a weekly basis.

    Hosts:
    Michail Katkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/
    Eric Kress www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/
    Phillip Black www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-economist/
    Jen Donahoe www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdonahoe

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    282. Do It Better: Creative Production with AI Apr 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Alexei Chemenda, CEO and co-founder of Poolday.ai, discusses how AI enables marketers to focus on strategy and storytelling. Discover the future of personalized video ads, the evolving role of A/B testing, and the importance of combining creative and analytical skills in marketing. 00:00 Introduction: Misconceptions About AI in Marketing01:53 Revolutionizing Ad Creation with AI02:53 Personalization and Creative Control04:15 Continuous Creative Cycle04:37 AI in Gaming and Brand Marketing09:22 Balancing Volume and Quality in AI-Driven Marketing16:37 Predictive Analytics and Data Fluency20:19 Future Skills for Marketing Leaders23:13 Enhancing Human Creativity with AI25:22 Conclusion and Contact Information


    281. How UGC Is Extending the Lifespan of Games with Uri Marchand, CEO of Overwolf Apr 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Mishka Katkoff sits down with Uri Marchand, CEO of Overwolf, to break down how user-generated content (UGC) is quietly reshaping the gaming industry. They dive into Overwolf’s mission to turn in-game creation into a viable profession, and why modding — once a hobby for the few — is now a legitimate career path for thousands.

    This isn’t just about mods anymore — it’s about the future of gaming economies.

    00:00Introduction to Overwolf and UGC0

    4:05 The Evolution of Modding in Gaming

    06:56 Industry Trends: Embracing UGC

    10:05 Challenges and Opportunities in Modding

    13:17 The Role of Platforms like Roblox and Fortnite

    16:32 Balancing Creator Support and Developer Benefits

    19:37 Sustainability of the Modding Economy

    22:23 Revenue Share Models in the Creator Economy

    25:34 The Impact of AI on Modding

    29:14 The Power of AI in Game Development

    30:15 Democratizing Game Creation

    31:01 Challenges in Scaling Overwolf

    33:51 Overcoming Investment Hurdles

    37:41 The Future of Overwolf and Gaming

    43:24 Innovations in User-Generated Content

    45:39 Changing Mindsets on Premium Mods

    48:17 Disruption in the Gaming Industry

    52:09 Lessons Learned from Overwolf's Journey


    TWIG #328 The Hidden Cost of Celebrity Ads and the How Hollywood Doesn’t Get Games Apr 24, 2025
    Show notes

    The crew unpacks a week of spicy news and strategic contradictions, starting with Supercell’s latest investments and how VC incentives often clash with long-term game building. We weigh in on GamesBeat’s move to independence, the ongoing esports funding debate, and whether Netflix’s Rebel Moon game is a flex or a fumble.

    Valorant Mobile’s China launch signals Riot’s next big move, while Tencent continues to dominate with titles like Gunfight King.

    The team dives into Disney’s Solitaire push, Habby's intriguing new soft launch, and the return of Royal Kingdom’s celebrity-fueled ad campaign—capped off by a heated debate: do TV ads still move the needle for mobile games, or are we watching legacy marketing die in real time?

    01:56 Industry News Highlights

    02:47 Supercell Investments Analysis

    05:35 VC Contradictions and Incentives

    17:43 GamesBeat Independence

    20:17 Esports Investment

    22:31 Oblivion

    24:15 Netflix's Rebel Moon Game

    31:00 Valorant Mobile Launch in China

    32:36 Gunfight King and Tencent's Gaming Dominance

    33:19 Disney Solitaire

    40:00 Habby's New Game in Soft Launch

    46:33 Royal Kingdom's Celebrity Ad Campaign

    48:44 Debating the Effectiveness of TV Ads for Mobile Games

    01:06:53 Concluding Thoughts on Marketing Strategies


    280. The Harsh Truths Behind Venture Capital No One Tells Founders with Lightspeed's Mortiz Baier-Lentz Apr 22, 2025
    Show notes

    Lightspeed’s Moritz Baier-Lentz joins us for a no-holds-barred conversation on venture capital, gaming, and the inner workings of multi-billion-dollar venture funds. No fluff—just real talk about fund math, spotting exceptional founders, the future of AI in gaming, and why most investments won’t work out (and why that’s okay).

    00:00 from pro-gamer in Diablo II to Goldman Sachs to Lightspeed VC

    10:00 The Lightspeed model

    18:00 How Moritz spots truly exceptional founders (hint: not a checklist)

    24:00 Fund math 101

    30:00 Studio investing vs. tech investing in games

    36:00 How consolidation is reshaping gaming M&A (and why it’s a big deal)

    43:00 Speedrun, a16z’s gaming accelerator: innovation or red flag?

    51:00 Debunking big VC myths

    58:00 The future of gaming: AI, generative content, and creating the next Roblox

    1:05:00 How Lightspeed wins competitive deals—and what founders should ask VCs

    1:12:00 Is raising VC money harder now? Yes. But here’s why it’s still a golden era.

    1:20:00 Final thoughts: investing at the edge of what’s possible


    TWIG #327 The East-West LiveOps Clash and the New Era of Extraction Shooters Apr 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Kress is fresh back from Turkiye, sharing on-the-ground insights before diving headfirst into the week’s big beats.

    We break down Epic Games Store’s revenue, debate the Minecraft movie’s potential for franchise dominance, and unpack the latest M&A and investment trends shaping gaming’s future. Inflation’s creeping impact on game pricing gets a hard look, while the crew wrestles with the evolving MTX and revenue models.

    Things heat up with Marvel Rivals throwing punches at Overwatch, a sharp take on Western vs. Eastern LiveOps strategies, and a no-holds-barred discussion about Bungie’s Marathon pivot into extraction shooters. To wrap, a quick (and slightly roasted) look at Kingdom’s celebrity-packed ad campaign.

    00:00 Introduction and Host Introductions

    03:09 Chris' Insights from Turkey

    07:02 Epic Games Store Revenue Discussion

    13:30 Minecraft Movie and Franchise Management

    21:07 M&A and Investment Trends in Gaming

    29:47 Game Pricing and Inflation

    30:31 MTX and Revenue Models

    32:59 Marvel Rivals vs. Overwatch

    37:33 Western vs. Eastern LiveOps

    44:24 Marathon: The Extraction Shooter

    58:13 Kingdom's Celebrity Ad Campaign


    279. From Experiment to Essential: How UGC Gaming Became a Marketing Powerhouse Apr 14, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of Deconstructor of Fun, Jen Donahoe is by Charles Hambro, CEO and Co-Founder of GEEIQ, and Matt Edelman, President and CEO of Super League, to dive deep into the evolving world of brand activations and UGC (user-generated content) in gaming.

    We explore how brands navigate virtual worlds, the ROI of successful campaigns, and why gaming audiences are more valuable than ever. The conversation spans the rise of playable ads, IAB standards, and the growing distinction between branded content and traditional ads.

    Charles and Matt also share their insights on the future of campaign-based activations and why entertainment brands are doubling down on gaming.

    00:00 Introduction to Brand and UGC Activations

    04:57 UGC and Virtual Worlds

    07:44 Brand Activations

    15:47 ROI and Success Stories

    21:02 Challenges and Future of UGC Platforms

    27:12 The Power of Gaming Audiences

    27:45 Mobile Advertising

    29:00 Playable Ads

    29:42 IAB and Playable Ad Standards

    31:34 Engaging Audiences with Playable Ads

    35:49 Branded Content vs. Traditional Ads

    36:41 The Future of Branded Content in Gaming

    42:40 The Importance of Campaign-Based Activations

    44:47 Entertainment Brands in Gaming

    46:59 Concluding Thoughts and Future Trends


    TWIG #326 Supercell Goes VC while Minecraft Kills at the Box Office Apr 10, 2025
    Show notes

    In this week’s episode of This Week in Games, we’re joined by special guest Chris Sides for a jam-packed conversation covering everything from transmedia storytelling to the latest moves in the gaming industry.

    We dive into the surprising momentum behind the Minecraft movie, explore Gen Z trends and market predictions, and unpack Netflix’s bold push into interactive fiction. Plus, we break down A16Z’s new Speed Run initiative, take a close look at Supercell’s evolving investment strategy, and compare War Robots to the newly launched Steel Hunters.

    00:00 Introduction and Host Introductions

    01:58 Special Guest Chris and His Background

    02:49 Transmedia and Pop Culture Discussion

    03:48 Industry Updates and News

    07:03 Podcast Highlights and Recent Episodes

    09:21 Minecraft Movie Success

    16:54 Gen Z and Market Predictions

    20:48 Netflix's Interactive Fiction Strategy

    28:44 Speed Run Initiative by A16Z

    30:22 Supercell's Investment Strategy

    31:19 Supercell's Investment Philosophy

    32:54 Supercell's Investment History and Performance

    43:14 Blueprints: The Best Rated Game of 2025

    49:21 RE's Latest Deck Recap

    53:36 Steel Hunters: Early Access and Unreal Engine

    01:03:02 War Robots vs. Steel Hunters01:05:02 Conclusion and Farewell


    278. Unlocking Gen Z: Strategies for Game Publishers and Developers Apr 07, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Deconstructor of Fun’s Michail Katkoff sits down with Tobias Knoke — long-time Googler, gaming industry expert, and Gen Z whisperer — to unpack what game developers need to know right now about the fastest-growing and most misunderstood audience in gaming.

    👉 Learn why Gen Z is about to become the biggest spending group on mobile

    👉 Why they’re less loyal to individual games, and how to win them back

    👉 How to build creator strategies that actually work

    👉 What Gen Z hates about ads — and what they love

    👉 How AI is quietly reshaping game development (and why Gen Z doesn’t care)

    🧠 Read more at:

    www.deconstructoroffun.com

    00:00 The State of Gaming Post-Pandemic

    03:51 Understanding Gen Z's Gaming Behavior

    06:53 Strategies for Engaging Gen Z

    10:05 The Role of Creators in Gaming Marketing

    12:52 Building Effective Creator Strategies

    15:43 The Impact of Social Connections on Gaming

    18:43 Achieving Escape Velocity in Game Launches

    33:38 Navigating Competition in Mobile Gaming

    36:52 Understanding Gen Z's Unique Gaming Preferences

    41:23 Ad Monetization Strategies for Gen Z

    46:53 High Expectations and LiveOps for Gen Z

    49:37 The Role of AI in Game Development

    Gen Z, gaming strategies, mobile gaming, creator marketing, ad monetization, LiveOps, AI in gaming, audience engagement, gaming behavior, influencer strategies


    TWIG #325 Ubisoft Bails Out, AppLovin Fights Back, Roblox Becomes an Ad Network Apr 04, 2025
    Show notes

    GDC’s over, but the takes are still hot. Eric Kress recaps the chaos and questions Dark Legion’s staying power, while Phil gives the Game Craft boys a well-deserved nod.

    Then it’s Switch 2 speculation time: is Nintendo finally back in the power game? Meanwhile, Roblox cozies up to Google for rewarded ads—what does that mean for the ecosystem?

    Meanwhile, AppLovin fights off short seller heat while asserting market dominance. Plus, Tencent’s playing the long game with Ubisoft, again—no surprise, but lots to unpack.


    02:12 GDC Highlights and Dark Legion Update
    03:18 Game Craft Podcast
    05:27 CEO Interviews and App Charge Partnership
    07:31 GDC Attendance and Dark Legion Performance
    15:58 Switch 2 Announcement
    23:26 Roblox Rewarded Ads and Google Partnership
    31:54 AppLovin's Short Seller Allegations
    36:17 Hedge Fund Hotels and Market Dynamics
    36:36 AppLovin Market Dominance
    38:49 Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Acquisition
    43:57 Supercell's New Game: First Impressions
    53:22 Ubisoft's $1.25 Billion Tencent Deal
    01:05:36 Tencent's Long Game and Market Strategy


    277. Leadership, AI, and Mobile Growth – Insights from AppsFlyer’s CEO and co-Founder, Oren Kaniel Apr 03, 2025
    Show notes

    What makes the company a great place to work? We discuss the significance of company culture, leadership evolution, and the vital role of customer obsession with AppsFlyer's CEO and co-founder, Oren Kaniel.

    Oren shares his entrepreneurial journey, how the company overcame early financial challenges, and the importance of remaining innovative and passionate. Additionally, we explore AI's role in the future of business, balancing data privacy with technological advancements, and the grand vision for AppsFlyer's continued growth and impact.

    02:44 Building a Company Culture

    06:33 The Importance of Customer Obsession

    15:24 Challenges and Early Days of the Startup

    20:15 Navigating Growth and Scaling Up

    25:06 Hiring and Nurturing Talent

    42:15 Transparency vs. Clarity in Leadership

    44:02 Innovative Solutions for Business Growth

    56:39 The Role of AI in Business Transformation

    01:05:47 Building a Sustainable Business Ecosystem

    01:15:20 Future Prospects and Innovations


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