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Recode Decode: OpenDoor CEO Eric Wu / Evite CEO Victor Cho Oct 11, 2019

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Recode's Kara Swisher interviews two CEOs in this double-feature episode of Recode Decode: First, she speaks with OpenDoor CEO Eric Wu about how technology is encroaching on the real estate industry, why housing is ripe for disruption, and how OpenDoor is bracing for the next recession. Later in the show, Swisher talks to Evite CEO Victor Cho about how the 21-year-old company is exploring new revenue models, avoiding the "MySpace slide," and what Cho learned from Eastman Kodak's failed turnaround.

Featuring:

Eric Wu (@ericwu01), CEO of OpenDoor

Victor Cho, CEO of Evite

Hosts:

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Recode Decode: "Antisocial" author Andrew Marantz Oct 09, 2019

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Andrew Marantz, a staff writer at the New Yorker, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno‑Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation. He discusses the danger of designing social media platforms around emotional engagement, how people like Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopoulos exploited people's belief in a broad political "consensus," and technology's role in advancing hate and extremism online. Marantz also explains what he calls the culture of "big swinging brains" in Silicon Valley, and why banning people from Twitter — including President Trump — isn't a comprehensive solution.

Featuring:

Andrew Marantz (@andrewmarantz), staff writer at the New Yorker and author of Antisocial.

Hosts:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Oct 07, 2019

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Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of HP who ran for the Republican nomination for president in 2016, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about campaigning against Donald Trump, her friendship with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, and the over-concentration of power among a handful of CEOs in the tech industry. Fiorina also talks about her experience as one of the few female tech CEOs of the 1990s, the “lasting damage” President Trump has done to the Republican Party, and why she's impressed by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's handling of the impeachment inquiry. Plus: What did Steve Jobs get right that Mark Zuckerberg has not?

Featuring:

Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina), author of Find Your Way and host of the leadership podcast By Example

Hosts:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub Oct 04, 2019

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Federal Election Commission Chair Ellen Weintraub talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the FEC works, how it tries to defend elections from foreign influence, and why the Commission is currently immobilized by a lack of "quorum" — in other words, it doesn't have enough members to launch or conclude any investigations. Weintraub talks about pending legislation to make advertising and campaign contributions more transparent, and explains how the FEC's current paralysis may undermine the cybersecurity of the 2020 presidential campaign. Plus: How she pushed back on President Trump's evidence-free claims about voter fraud in New Hampshire.

Featuring:

Ellen Weintraub (@EllenLWeintraub), chair of the Federal Election Commission

Hosts:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: Obama's cybersecurity chief Michael Daniel Oct 02, 2019

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Barack Obama's former cybersecurity coordinator Michael Daniel, now the CEO of the nonprofit Cyber Threat Alliance, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about the state of US cybersecurity heading into the 2020 elections. Daniel says the proposed solutions to election hacking may just cause new problems: "If you can track your vote," he says, "I can track your vote."

Featuring:

Michael Daniel (@CyAlliancePrez), president and CEO, Cyber Threat Alliance

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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: FTC Commissioner Rebecca Kelly Slaughter Sep 30, 2019

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Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, one of the FTC's two Democratic commissioners, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of antitrust problems in the tech industry, the history of pushback against the FTC for alleged over-enforcement, and whether it is under-enforcing the law today. Slaughter also talks about her objections to the $5 billion fine against Facebook that the FTC negotiated this year, the limitations on its speed and fining power, and its investigation of YouTube for COPPA violations, which led to a $170 million fine. Plus: The actions the FTC has taken against Uber and TikTok, why it was so permissive of tech M&A during the Obama administration, and why Slaughter doesn't think the US needs a new internet regulatory agency.

Featuring:

Rebecca Kelly Slaughter (@RKSlaughterFTC), FTC Commissioner (@FTC)

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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: Senator Mark Warner Sep 27, 2019

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Mark Warner, the senior US Senator from Virginia, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about several interconnected policy issues affecting the 2020 elections, including the security of voter registries, the expectation of social media manipulation by Russia and other hostile foreign powers, and the newly announced impeachment inquiry into President Trump's phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Sen. Warner also talks about the potential of regulators breaking up tech giants and how the US government's relationship with those companies has improved since 2016, yet still calls for more oversight of their unprecedented power. Plus: Why he's "cautiously optimistic" about Republicans in the Senate embracing election reform and new privacy laws, his proposal for incentivizing companies to invest in their workers, and how Warner thinks Congress might be able to fix Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act without repealing it wholesale.

Editor's note: This interview was recorded the morning of Wednesday, September 25, before the release of the White House memo with a "transcript" of Trump's call with Zelensky.

Featuring:

Mark Warner (@MarkWarner), US Senator from Virginia

Hosts:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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If you haven't already, check out Kara's past interviews with Rep. Adam Schiff and Whistleblower Aid CEO John Napier Tye.

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Recode Decode: Whistleblower Aid CEO John Tye Sep 25, 2019

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John Napier Tye, the founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how his non-profit law firm helps people seeking to legally expose corruption in the government and at private companies. It recently worked with a whistleblower at MIT, connecting them with New Yorker reporter Ronan Farrow to discuss the university's cover-up of funding that had come from convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein; Tye also discusses the US official who reported President Trump's phone call with the president of Ukraine, the Edward Snowden leaks in 2013, and how whistleblowers can protect themselves from criticism and retribution. Plus: Will we always need whistleblowers?

Featuring:

John Napier Tye, founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid (@wbaidlaw)

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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder Sep 23, 2019

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Recode's Kara Swisher talks with Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder, a hedge fund manager turned human rights activist and his son, Josh Browder, whose company DoNotPay helps consumers fight everything from parking tickets to the Equifax leaks. They talk about the different ways they have pursued justice for relatively powerless people, their entrepreneurial journeys, and how both the Putin regime and mega-corporations have taken advantage of the internet.

Featuring:

Bill Browder (@BillBrowder), Hermitage Capital CEO

Josh Browder (@JBrowder1), DoNotPay CEO

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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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Recode Decode: "She Said" authors Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey Sep 20, 2019

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New York Times reporters Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, She Said: Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story That Helped Ignite a Movement. They talk about how Kantor and Twohey reported stories about sexual harassment allegations against Harvey Weinstein; how Weinstein's network of lawyers and advisers kept his misconduct under wraps; and how the story help launch an ongoing reckoning around power imbalances between men and women worldwide. They also explain why they interviewed Christine Blasey Ford, the college professor who testified in Congress that Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in 1982.

Featuring:

Jodi Kantor (@jodikantor), New York Times investigative reporter and co-author, She Said

Megan Twohey (@mega2e), New York Times investigative reporter and co-author, She Said

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Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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