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    Decoder with Nilay Patel

    Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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    Recode Decode: Casey Newton and Louie Swisher May 18, 2020
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    Recode's Kara Swisher talks with the Verge's Casey Newton and her older son, Louie Swisher, about how the COVID-19 pandemic and quarantine has affected their tech habits. They also discuss Louie's remote final months of high school, the future of video conferencing, and the growing power of tech giants such as Facebook and Amazon. Newton also talks about his reporting on Facebook moderators who developed PTSD on the job, which led to a recent $52 million settlement. Plus: What is everyone watching and playing to pass the time, and are movie theaters dead?

    Featuring:

    Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton), tech reporter at The Verge and writer of The Interface

    Louie Swisher

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    OnReset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Jon Meacham May 15, 2020
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    Historian and bestselling author Jon Meacham talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new podcast Hope Through History, which shows how Americans endured crises such as the Great Depression and the 1918 flu pandemic and came out the other side as a stronger nation. Meacham says there's no guarantee that the coronavirus pandemic will be resolved in the same way as the moments he has studied, but that it's a mistake to imagine that the past was a simpler "fairy tale" time without comparable struggles. He also talks about the politicization of our current crisis, how it has accelerated other problems in our society, and what a Joe Biden victory in November would mean for the future of the country. Plus: What is Meacham writing next, and what past presidency most resembles our own? (It's not Andrew Jackson's.)

    Featuring:

    Jon Meacham (@jmeacham), host, Hope Through History

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    OnReset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Maye Musk May 13, 2020
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    Model and dietitian Maye Musk (the mother of Tesla/SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, entrepreneur Kimbal Musk, and filmmaker Tosca Musk) talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her recent memoir, A Woman Makes a Plan: Advice for a Lifetime of Adventure, Beauty, and Success. Musk also discusses ageism in modeling, her aversion to the "weird diets" that have caught on in Silicon Valley, and how she was a "pillar" to her three entrepreneurial kids. Plus: Does she want to go to Mars with Elon?

    (Note: This interview was recorded in late March.)

    >> Start your free trial of New York Magazine today - go to nymag.com/decode

    Featuring:

    Maye Musk (@mayemusk), author, A Woman Makes a Plan: Advice for a Lifetime of Adventure, Beauty, and Success

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    OnReset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Joe Walsh May 11, 2020
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    Former Republican Congressman Joe Walsh talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he tried to primary Donald Trump earlier this year, how the Republican Party became a "cult," and his recent book, F*ck Silence: Calling Trump Out for the Cultish, Moronic, Authoritarian Con Man He Is. Walsh, who also hosts a podcast called F*ck Silence, says the coronavirus crisis is finally starting to convince people who don't pay attention to politics that they should vote against President Trump in November, and that the centrality of Trump to the election means Joe Biden's campaign is fairly irrelevant. He also predicts that a conservative third party led by anti-Trump former Republicans is inevitable, and says Biden's nominee for Vice President must be someone who's already well-known to voters.

    >> Start your free trial of New York Magazine today - go to nymag.com/decode

    Featuring:

    Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom), author, F*ck Silence: Calling Trump Out for the Cultish, Moronic, Authoritarian Con Man He Is

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    OnReset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Scott Galloway May 08, 2020
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    NYU Professor and Pivot co-host Scott Galloway returns to Recode Decode to talk about his new show on Vice TV, No Mercy, No Malice with Professor Scott Galloway. He and Recode's Kara Swisher also talk about how they started working together, why he decided to branch out into podcasting and then TV, and the "most disruptable" industries that young people should be going into right now — healthcare and higher education. Galloway explains what he would do if he were the provost of a major university like NYU, including a "Marshall Plan" for increasing student enrollment and the abolition of tenure for professors because "everybody else has to work for a living." Plus: How coronavirus will change cities, retail, restaurants, and more, and which big tech companies should be broken up.

    >> Start your free trial of New York Magazine today - go to nymag.com/decode

    Featuring:

    Scott Galloway (@profgalloway), Pivot co-host and host of No Mercy, No Malice with Professor Scott Galloway

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom

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    Recode Decode: Alexis Coe May 06, 2020
    Show notes

    Political historian Alexis Coe talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her latest book, You Never Forget Your First: A Biography of George Washington, which seeks to break the staid formula by which all other books about America's first president have been written. Coe says she is the only female historian to write a book about Washington, and discovered that other biographies written by white men have popularized sexist untruths about his single mother, while obscuring some crucial details about Washington himself and distorting his track record as a slaver. She also talks about her previous book, Alice + Freda Forever: A Murder in Memphis, why we still need libraries, and how history as a profession is changing at a time when we may know "too much" about our leaders.

    Featuring:

    Alexis Coe (@alexiscoe), author, You Never Forget Your First: A Biography of George Washington

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Alex Kantrowitz May 04, 2020
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    BuzzFeed News reporter Alex Kantrowitz talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Always Day One: How The Tech Titans Plan To Stay On Top Forever. He discusses how coronavirus may change consumers’ relationship with tech giants, the opportunity for a new major labor movement, and how the companies he profiled in the book — including Amazon, Apple, and Facebook — keep from getting out-innovated. Kantrowitz says education, and not automation, is the larger problem for the long-term future of work, and argues that TikTok is one of the only places young people are learning to be creative; he also explains why Apple is stuck in a similar rut now to the one Microsoft was in under Steve Ballmer. Plus: Can you steal from Amazon's cashier-less grocery story?

    Featuring:

    Alex Kantrowitz (@Kantrowitz), author, Always Day One: How The Tech Titans Plan To Stay On Top Forever

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom

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    Recode Decode: Ryan Murphy May 01, 2020
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    TV producer Ryan Murphy — who created or produced shows like Glee, 911, and American Horror Story — talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new Netflix miniseries, Hollywood, which blends real history with fictional characters to imagine a more inclusive "what-if" version of the postwar film business. Murphy explains how shows like Glee and Modern Family encouraged LGBT acceptance, why he doesn't use Twitter anymore, and his mega-deal with Netflix, which was reported to be worth up to $300 million. Plus: The differences between working for Netflix vs. Fox, how covid-19 has changed entertainment, and Murphy and Swisher's roadtrip to New York City in the 80s.

    Featuring:

    Ryan Murphy (@mrrpmurphy on Instagram), co-creator and executive producer, Hollywood

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Dave Asprey Apr 29, 2020
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    Bulletproof founder and former CEO Dave Asprey talks about the invention and current state of “biohacking," how his blog for “bulletproof executives” grew into a global lifestyle, and the most important ways to track and improve one’s life. Asprey explains how intermittent fasting works — but may not be right for everyone seven days a week — and says that quality of sleep is more important than quantity: Getting 8 hours of sleep every night is “garbage science,” he claims. He also discusses cryotherapy, meditation, the cutting edge of aging and brain research, and his goal of living to be 180 years old.

    Featuring:

    Dave Asprey (@bulletproofexec), founder and former CEO, Bulletproof

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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    Recode Decode: Nikole Hannah-Jones Apr 27, 2020
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    New York Times Magazine reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the coronavirus pandemic is magnifying inequality in the US, and our historical failure to treat essential workers — from meat-packing plants to checkout counters to delivery drivers — with the respect and protection they deserve. Hannah-Jones, who created the Times' ongoing series about the legacy of slavery, The 1619 Project, also talks about the technology gap and current inequalities in pre-college education, and says the crisis is also an opportunity to reset the deeply unjust gig economy. Plus: Why are black and Latinx Americans dying of coronavirus at much higher rates than their white and Asian peers?

    Featuring:

    Nikole Hannah-Jones (@nhannahjones), reporter, New York Times Magazine

    Host:

    Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

    More to explore:

    On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.

    On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.

    On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.

    And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon!

    About Recode by Vox:

    Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.

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