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    Decoder with Nilay Patel

    Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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    The mystery of Biden’s deadlocked FCC Nov 03, 2022
    Show notes

    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is currently short a commissioner, and the Biden Administration and Senate Democrats just can't seem to get that seat filled despite having nominated an amazingly qualified person. Her name is Gigi Sohn. The inability to get Gigi confirmed at the FCC has left the commission deadlocked with two Democrats and two Republicans. That means the commission in charge of regulating all telecom in the United States, including how you get your internet service, is unable to get much done. The Biden administration can't accomplish some of its biggest policy priorities like rural broadband and restoring net neutrality. President Biden first nominated Gigi Sohn to the FCC over a year ago, but the full Senate vote to confirm her just hasn't happened. We’ve been digging into the story for a few months now, trying to figure out what's going on here, and we found a simple but really frustrating answer…


    Links:

    Gigi Sohn Author Profile - The Verge

    Comcast trying to “torpedo” Biden FCC pick Gigi Sohn, advocacy group says

    The Slime Machine Targeting Dozens of Biden Nominees

    Attempted acquisition of Tribune Media by Sinclair Broadcast Group

    The Vergecast: Net neutrality was repealed a year ago. Gigi Sohn explains what’s happened since

    Confirmation Hearing for FCC and Commerce Department Nominees

    Biden signs $280 billion CHIPS and Science Act

    Biden Signs Bill to Help Veterans Exposed to Toxic Burn Pits

    With the Inflation Reduction Act, the US brings climate goals within reach

    Federal Communications Commission v. Pacifica Foundation

    Federal Communications Commission v. Pacifica Foundation

    A Media Censor for the FCC?

    Hyperpartisan Gigi Sohn Doesn’t Belong at the FCC

    Gigi Sohn and the Police

    Gigi Sohn Facebook Tweet

    Tech antitrust pioneer Lina Khan will officially lead the FTC

    Confirmation Hearing For FCC Nominee

    FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel on staying connected during a pandemic


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23201559


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was written and reported by Jackie McDermott.

    It was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright. Additional mixing by Andrew Marino.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters and our Executive Director is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Why Amazon VP Steve Boom just made the entire music catalog free with Prime Nov 01, 2022
    Show notes

    I love covering the music industry, but over the past 10 years I’ve found that it’s one of the most challenging things to make accessible to a wide audience. See, my theory is that the music industry is like five years ahead of everything else when it comes to being disrupted by tech: whatever happens to the music industry because of technology eventually happens to everything else.


    Today I'm talking to Steve Boom, the VP of Amazon Music. Amazon just announced that they are upgrading the music service that Prime members get as part of their subscription. Starting today, one of the benefits for Amazon Prime members is that you now get access to the entire Amazon Music catalog, about 100 million songs, to play in shuffle mode. That service used to only contain 2 million songs. And they are removing ads from a large selection of podcasts including the entire Wondery catalog.

    I wanted to ask Steve: what’s it like to negotiate with the record labels for a service like this? What can streaming services do to make artists more money? And where do podcasts fit into the overall strategy? Amazon and Spotify both spend a lot of money buying podcast studios. Is it paying off?


    Links:

    Amazon buys Wondery, setting itself up to compete against Spotify for podcast domination

    Apple’s Anti-Competitive Behavior Hurts Everyone—Including Audiobook Listeners, Publishers, and Authors

    Why Rdio died

    Why it makes sense for Amazon to buy Twitch

    Amazon Launches Audio App Amp Combining Music and Live Conversation

    The days of cheap music streaming may be numbered

    Why did Jack Dorsey’s Square buy Tidal, Jay-Z’s failed music service?

    Amazon Music rolls out a lossless streaming tier that Spotify and Apple can’t match

    How Amazon runs Alexa, with Dave Limp

    Apple’s new podcast charts show Amazon at the top

    Spotify gets serious about podcasts with two acquisitions

    Vox Media acquires Cafe Studios, Preet Bharara’s podcast-first company

    Vox Media Acquires Criminal Productions, Leading Narrative Podcast Studio

    Time to Play Fair - Spotify

    Apple’s New App Store Rules a Big Boon for Netflix, Hulu & Co.

    MusiCares


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23197384



    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.


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    Never pay the ransom — a cybersecurity CEO explains why Oct 27, 2022
    Show notes

    Steve Cagle is the CEO of Clearwater Compliance, which is a cybersecurity firm focused on the healthcare industry. Basically, they lock down hospital computer systems, which contain a huge amount of personal data, and are so mission critical that ransomware attackers know that hospitals are more likely to just pay up. If the cryptocurrency explosion has accomplished anything, it’s making ransomware attacks easier and more lucrative for bad guys.

    Steve told me there’s so much personal information in a hospital system that a single patient’s record can sell for a huge premium over somthing like a credit card number. And we talked about amount of regulation needed to secure that data and that some insurance providers require hospitals to have a minimum level of security, or they won't be covered. It's a fascinating one.


    Links:

    Cyber Security Week 2022

    Penetration test

    Cyberattack delays patient care at major US hospital chain

    Average Healthcare Data Breach Costs Surpass $10M, IBM Finds


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23175031


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    It was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott. Research by Liz Lian and it was edited by Jackson Bierfeldt.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    The people who make your apps go to Stack Overflow for answers – here's how it works Oct 25, 2022
    Show notes

    Today I'm talking to Prashanth Chandrasekar the CEO of Stack Overflow – a highly specialized kind of social network, with a really unique business model. If you don't know Stack Overflow is a major part of the modern software development landscape: it’s where developers come together, ask questions, and get answers about how to build software, including actual code they can use in their own projects. It’s basically a huge question and answer forum. More than 100 million people visit Stack Overflow every single month. The company also sells Stack Overflow as an internal forum tool that big companies can use for their own teams: Microsoft, Google, Logitech—you name it, they’re using Stack Overflow to coordinate conversations between their engineers.

    The platform has a long reputation of elitism; Prashanth himself is a developer and he told me his own first experience on Stack Overflow was a negative one. In fact, he took over as CEO about three years ago, after a pretty serious moderation controversy that saw several longtime Stack Overflow moderators quit. I wanted to talk to Prashanth about how it works, how the company makes money, and how to grow such a specialized user base while still being welcoming to new people.


    Links:

    Software-as-a-Service (SaaS)

    Stack Overflow Sold to Tech Giant Prosus for $1.8 Billion

    Stack Overflow helps millions of developers do their jobs every single day. Its new CEO says the next stage of its growth is selling to businesses.

    Big Tech's hiring freeze unlocks rich talent pool for U.S. startups

    Stack Overflow raises $85M in Series E funding to further accelerate SaaS business

    Chris Dixon thinks web3 is the future of the internet — is it?

    Stack Overflow Has a New Code of Conduct: You Must 'Be Nice'

    Code of Conduct - Stack Overflow

    Eight great sites that offer online classes

    The other side of Stack Overflow content moderation

    Everything you need to know about Section 230


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23185361


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Why Signal won’t compromise on encryption, with president Meredith Whittaker Oct 18, 2022
    Show notes

    Meredith Whittaker is the president of Signal, the popular messaging app that offers encrypted communication. You might recognize Meredith’s name from 2018 when she was an AI researcher at Google and one of the organizers of the Google walkout. Now she’s at Signal, which is a little different than the usual tech company: it’s operated by a nonprofit foundation and prides itself on collecting as little data as possible.

    But messaging apps are a complicated business. Governments around the world really dislike encrypted messaging and often push companies to put in backdoors for surveillance and law enforcement because criminals use encrypted messaging for all sorts of deeply evil things. But there’s no half step to breaking encryption, so companies like Signal often find themselves in the difficult position of refusing to help governments. You might recall that Apple has often refused to help the government break into iPhones, for example. I wanted to know how that tradeoff plays out at Signal’s much smaller and more idealistic scale.

    This is a good one, with lots of Decoder themes in the mix. We have to start doing checklists or something. Okay, Meredith Whittaker, president of Signal. Here we go.


    Links:

    The battle inside Signal

    Yes, even Signal is doing stories now

    Here’s why Apple’s new child safety features are so controversial

    Signal is ‘starting to phase out SMS support’ from its Android app

    A very brief history of every Google messaging app

    RCS: What it is and why you might want it

    Let’s chat about RCS

    WhatsApp is now entirely end-to-end encrypted

    Moxie Marlinspike has stepped down as CEO of Signal

    Meredith Whittaker Tweet


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23173757


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Jackson Bierfeldt.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Mark Zuckerberg on the Quest Pro, future of the metaverse, and more Oct 11, 2022
    Show notes

    Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg joined The Verge’s deputy editor Alex Heath for an in-depth conversation about the company’s new high-end, mixed reality headset, the $1,499 Quest Pro, and why he isn’t backing down from building the metaverse. Zuckerberg and Heath also talked about the future of social media, why he enjoys “being doubted,” and the growing concerns about TikTok’s Chinese ownership.


    Links:

    The Meta Quest Pro is a cutting-edge headset looking for an audience

    Xbox Cloud Gaming is coming to the Meta Quest

    ​​Apple’s mixed reality headset will reportedly come with an M2 chip

    We finally got our hands and eyes on the PlayStation VR2

    Apple’s app tracking policy reportedly cost social media platforms nearly $10 billion

    Mark Zuckerberg took on China in a speech defending free expression

    Why BeReal is breaking out

    Elon Musk is buying Twitter, probably?


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23161228


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Vjeran Pavic, and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Pat Gelsinger came back to turn Intel around – here’s how it’s going Oct 04, 2022
    Show notes

    Today I'm talking to Pat Gelsinger, the CEO of Intel. I’ve been excited to have this conversation for a very long time – ever since Pat took over as CEO a little over a year and a half ago. After all. Intel is a very important company with a huge series of challenges in front of it. It’s still the largest chip manufacturer by revenue, and makes more chips than any other company in the United States. In fact there are basically only three major chip manufacturers: Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, or TSMC, which is in Taiwan, Samsung, based in South Korea. And Intel, here in the United States.

    The Intel Pat took over was struggling, and was losing ground to in a variety of markets. But in the past year and a half, Pat’s restructured the company, turned over almost all of its leadership positions, opened a new line of business that would compete with TSMC and make chips for other companies including Intel’s competitors, and generally tried to reset Intel’s famous engineering culture around engineering.


    Glossary:

    IFS - Intel Foundry Service.

    Raptor Lake - codename for intel's Gen 13 processors that were just the day before we had our conversation.

    Sapphire Rapids - the codename for Intel's 4th generation Xeon server processors.

    20A and 18A - 20A is a rebranding of what was intel's 5nm process scheduled to debut in 2024 and 18A is a rebranding of Intels 5nm+ node due out in 2025.

    Packaging - integrated circuit packaging is the last step of semiconductor fabrication. It's where a block of semiconductor material is put into a case. The case, is known as a "package" and that is what allows you put a circuit on a board.

    Wafers - When a processor is made they make processors you make hundreds of them at once on a giant wafer.

    EUV - is Extreme Ultraviolet Lithography. It's the most advanced way to make chips.

    ASML - Is the company that makes the machines that lets you make chips. They are the only company that makes EUV machines.

    RibbonFET - A new transistor technology that Intel developed.

    ISV - Independent Software Vendors.

    PDK - Process Design Kit is a set of files that have data and algorithms that explain the manufacturing parameters for a given silicon process.

    EDA tools - stands for Electronic Design Automation tools. Basically software tools that are used to design and validate the semiconductor manufacturing process.

    Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore - the founders of Intel.

    Andy Grove - employee #3 who went on to become one of their most successful CEOs.


    Links:

    Moore's Law

    Intel is replacing its CEO in February

    Intel has to be better than ‘lifestyle company’ Apple at making CPUs, says new CEO

    Apple is switching Macs to its own processors starting later this year

    Apple MacBook Air with M1 review: new chip, no problem

    What we know about Intel’s $20 billion bet on Ohio

    Intel is building a new €17 billion semiconductor manufacturing hub in Germany

    Intel delays ceremony for Ohio factory over lack of government funding

    Intel needs 7,000 workers to build its $20 billion chip plant in Ohio

    Biden signs $280 billion CHIPS and Science Act

    President Joe Biden speaks after groundbreaking for Intel’s $20 billion semiconductor plant

    Intel’s top Arc A770 GPU is priced at $329, available October 12th

    Intel’s 13th Gen processors arrive October 20th with $589 flagship Core i9-13900K


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23149693


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    How Arm conquered the chip market without making a single chip, with CEO Rene Haas Sep 27, 2022
    Show notes

    One of the more interesting quirks of the modern tech world is that there’s a really important company at the center of it all that doesn’t make anything. But its work is in your phone, in your TV, your car and maybe even your laptop. I’m talking about ARM, a chip design company that’s been through quite a lot these past few years, and I'm talking to Arm CEO Rene Haas.

    Arm designs the instruction sets for modern chips: Qualcomm’s chips are Arm chips. Apple’s chips are Arm chips. Samsung’s chips are Arm chips. It’s the heart of modern computing. Arm licenses the instruction set to those companies, who then go off and actually make chips with all sorts of customizations. Basically every smartphone runs an Arm processor, Apple’s Macs now run arm processors, and everything from cars to coffee machines are showing up with more and more arm processors in them.


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    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23137412


    Links:

    The Vergecast: The HDMI Holiday Spec-tacular on Apple Podcasts

    Biden signs $280 billion CHIPS and Science Act

    Intel needs 7,000 workers to build its $20 billion chip plant in Ohio - The Verge

    What comes after the smartphone, with Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon - The Verge

    Why the global chip shortage is making it so hard to buy a PS5

    Nvidia’s huge Arm deal has just been scrapped

    What is a SoC?

    What is an ECU?


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Can software simplify the supply chain? Ryan Petersen thinks so Sep 20, 2022
    Show notes

    Ryan Petersen, is the CEO of Flexport, ac ompany that builds software that integrates all the different shipping vendor systems you might run into as you try to get a product from a factory in China to a consumer in Idaho: rail, sea, truck. We’ve talked about the supply chain and inventory management on Decoder with a lot of our guests — the chip shortage seems to affect every company, and sorting out how to get products made and delivered on time is a pretty universal problem. But we haven’t really talked about how products get from one place to another around the world.

    So I wanted to talk to Ryan, figure out what Flexport’s role in all this is, what his bigger supply chain solutions would be, and why he’s leaving his job as CEO to be executive chairman and handing the reins to Dave Clark, who used to work at Amazon.


    Links:

    Dave Clark to Join Flexport As Our New CEO

    Flexport Wants to Be Uber of the Oceans

    At Google, Eric Schmidt Wrote the Book on Adult Supervision

    The real story behind a tech founder’s ‘tweetstorm that saves Christmas’

    Ryan's twitter thread


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/23126062


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Everyone knows what YouTube is. Few know how it really works. Sep 13, 2022
    Show notes

    Today, I’m talking to Mark Bergen, a reporter at Bloomberg and the author of a new book about YouTube called. Like, Comment, Subscribe: Inside YouTube’s Chaotic Rise to World Domination.


    YouTube has always been fascinating to me because it’s such a black box: everyone feels like they know how the platform works, but very few people have a real understanding of the internal politics and tradeoffs that actually drive YouTube’s decision. Mark’s book is one of the best of its kind I’ve read: not only does he take you inside the company, but he connects the decisions made inside YouTube to the creators who use the platform and the effects it has on them.


    This was a fun one – keep in mind that for as little as we might know about YouTube, we might know even less about TikTok, which is driving all sorts of platforms, even YouTube, into competing with it.


    Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/23113078


    Links:

    YouTube Partner Program

    Hank Green on Decoder

    iJustine



    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters. And our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


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