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    Decoder with Nilay Patel

    Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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    How Logitech bet big on work from home Dec 21, 2021
    Show notes

    Logitech is one of those ubiquitous companies — it’s been around since 1981, selling all kinds of important things that connect to computers of all shapes and sizes: mice, keyboards, cases, cameras, you name it. Nilay Patel spoke with Logitech CEO Bracken Darrell about how the company met increased demand during the pandemic, whether that changed his plans to shift to a services company, and how the supply chain issues around the world affect his business. They also talked about how he manages Logitech’s relationships with other tech giants like Apple and Amazon.

    And we had to talk about the decision to kill the Harmony remote line.


    Links:

    Nilay's interview with Bracken Darrell from 2019

    Everything you need to know about the global chip shortage

    Why charging phones is such a complex business with Anker CEO Steven Yang

    Logitech officially discontinues its Harmony remotes

    How an excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day

    Logitech is buying Streamlabs for $89 million

    Logitech announces cheaper Magic Keyboard alternative for new iPad Pro


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22610722


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andrew Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    Can we regulate social media without breaking the First Amendment? Dec 16, 2021
    Show notes

    So today I’m talking to Jameel Jaffer, executive director of the The Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, about one of the hardest problems at the intersection of tech and policy right now: the question of how to regulate social media platforms. Everyone seems to think we should do it – Democrats, Republicans – even Facebook is running ads saying it welcomes regulation. It’s weird. But while everyone might agree on the idea, no one agrees on the execution, and the biggest hurdle is the First Amendment..


    Links:

    Florida governor signs law to block ‘deplatforming’ of Florida politicians

    Judge blocks Florida’s social media law

    Texas passes law that bans kicking people off social media based on ‘viewpoint’

    Federal court blocks Texas law banning ‘viewpoint discrimination’ on social media

    Social media companies want to co-opt the First Amendment. Courts shouldn’t let them.

    Miami Herald Publishing Company vs. Tornillo

    Pacific Gas & Electric Company v. Public Utilities Commission of California

    Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian Bisexual Group


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22602514


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andru Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    The metaverse is already here — and it’s full of Pokemon, says Niantic CEO John Hanke Dec 14, 2021
    Show notes

    John Hanke is the CEO of Niantic, a company that makes the wildly popular Pokemon Go mobile game in partnership with Nintendo and the Pokémon company. Pokemon Go, and its predecessor Ingress, are now the largest and most successful augmented reality games in the industry, which means John has long been at the forefront of what we’ve all started calling the metaverse—digital worlds that interact with the real world. Lots of companies are chasing metaverse hype but John’s been at it for a while, and I wanted to talk about the reality instead of the hype. We also coin the phrase “marketplace of realities.” It’s a ride.


    Links:

    What’s left of Magic Leap?

    Microsoft is supplying 120,000 HoloLens-based headsets to the US Army

    Snap’s first AR Spectacles are an ambitious, impractical start

    Facebook just revealed its new name: Meta

    There will never be another Pokémon Go

    Pokémon Go is still incredibly relevant

    Harry Potter: Wizards Unite is shutting down next year

    Springboard: the secret history of the first real smartphone is out now

    The best thing to do in VR is work out

    NFT's, explained

    Pokémon Go creator Niantic is working on AR glasses with Qualcomm


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22596531


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Jackie McDermott with research by Liz Lian and it was edited by Callie Wright.

    The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Sr Audio Director is Andru Marino and our Executive Producer is Eleanor Donovan.

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    From a meme to $47 million: ConstitutionDAO, crypto, and the future of crowdfunding Dec 07, 2021
    Show notes

    Jonah Erlich is one of the core members of a group called ConstitutionDAO, a group that raised $47 Million to try to buy one of the original copies of the United States Constitution at an auction held by the high-end auction house Sotheby’s.


    Links:

    ConstitutionDAO

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    Crypto collective raises $27 million to bid for rare copy of US Constitution

    ConstitutionDAO loses $43 million auction of rare US Constitution copy

    ConstitutionDAO will shut down after losing bid for Constitution

    Almost buying a copy of the Constitution is easy, but giving the money back is hard

    Code is Law

    Ice Bucket Challenge dramatically accelerated the fight against ALS

    Iwata Asks: Just Being President Was A Waste!

    Succession

    Could ConstitutionDAO's PEOPLE token be the next meme coin?


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22584604


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott. We are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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    How an Excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day Nov 30, 2021
    Show notes

    Kat Norton is a Microsoft Excel influencer. She has over a million followers on TikTok and Instagram, where she goes by the name Miss Excel, and she’s leveraged that into a software training business that is now generating up to six figures of revenue a day. That’s six figures a day. And she’s only been doing this since June 2020. Nilay Patel talks to her about how she built the business, how she uses energetics to go viral, and why her relationship with social media is so different than other creators and influencers,


    Links:

    Excelerator Course

    A Microsoft Excel influencer quit her day job and is making 6 figures from her unconventional way of teaching spreadsheet hacks, tips, and tricks



    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22571899


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Andrew Marino. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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    Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky Nov 16, 2021
    Show notes

    Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky prides himself on thinking very differently than other CEOs, and his answers to the Decoder questions about how he structures and manages his company were almost always the opposite of what I’m used to hearing on the show. Airbnb is pretty much a single team, focused on a single product, and it all rolls up to Brian. That’s very different from most other big companies, which have lots of divisions and overlapping lines of authority.

    And Airbnb’s relationship to cities is changing as tourism changes. Airbnb used to be the poster child for a tech company that showed up without permission and fought with regulators, but as the company has grown and the pandemic has changed things, it’s entered what is hopefully a more mature phase — it just came to a deal with New York City after ten years of argument. I asked Brian about that and about what it’s like to run a public company now — the transition from scrappy startup to public company engaged with regulators is a big one.

    Of course, I also had to ask about cryptocurrency and the metaverse — does Brian think we’re all going to be visiting virtual NFT museums on vacations in the future? You have to listen and find out.

    Okay, Brian Chesky, CEO of Airbnb, here we go.


    Links:

    Can Brian Chesky Save Airbnb?

    Jony Ive is bringing his design talents to... Airbnb

    Zillow reportedly needs to sell 7,000 houses after it bought too many

    City of New York and Airbnb Reach Settlement Agreement

    Airbnb hosts discriminate against black guests based on names, study suggests


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22547463


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Andrew Marino, our research was done by Liz Lian. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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    Why charging phones is such a complex business, with Anker CEO Steven Yang Nov 09, 2021
    Show notes

    Nilay Patel talks to Steven Yang, the CEO and founder of Anker Innovations. The conversation covers the full stack of Decoder topics: taking bets on new tech like gallium nitride, building a direct-to-consumer business on Amazon, and the complexity of managing the Amazon relationship, regulatory issues, platform fees — you name it. And all from a company that started making phone chargers. Anker is endlessly fascinating.


    Links:

    Anker CEO Steven Yang is all in on USB-C

    Amazon-Native Brand Anker Goes Public

    EU proposes mandatory USB-C on all devices, including iPhones

    Gallium nitride is the silicon of the future

    Video: Is gallium nitride the silicon of the future?

    Anker MagGo devices snap on for wireless iPhone charging in your car and home

    Amazon confirms it removed RavPower, a popular phone battery and charger brand

    Another Amazon-first gadget brand has suspiciously vanished: Choetech

    Doug DeMuro on Decoder

    Nebula Capsule II mini projector review: TV in a can


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22533880


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andrew Marino. We are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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    The secrets of the first real smartphone, with Dieter Bohn Nov 04, 2021
    Show notes

    Welcome to a special Thursday edition of Decoder. You may have read on the site that Verge executive editor Dieter Bohn has been working on a documentary called Springboard: the secret history of the first real smartphone. It's about a company called Handspring and I think the Decoder audience will be really into this story so today we're interviewing Dieter. We talked about his documentary and he brought an exclusive clip that didn't make it into the film.

    That documentary is streaming now on The Verge's new streaming apps that you can get on your TV or set top box. We have them for Android, for Amazon Fire TV, for Roku and Apple TV. We've been working on these for a long time. It's a little more complicated than you might think to make these apps, make them good, distribute them on everyone's app stores, some real Decoder pain points in there.


    Links

    Springboard trailer and how to get the streaming apps


    Transcript

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22526129

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    Meta’s Andrew Bosworth on moving Facebook to the metaverse Nov 01, 2021
    Show notes

    Facebook announced a major corporate rebrand by changing its company name to Meta. The new name is meant to solidify the social media giant’s longterm bet on building the metaverse. On this episode of Decoder, vice president of Reality Labs Andrew Bosworth talked with The Verge’s Alex Heath about Facebook’s rebrand to Meta, how content moderation will work in the metaverse, and the hardware journey from virtual to mixed reality, and eventually, AR glasses.


    Links:

    Mark Zuckerberg on why Facebook is rebranding to Meta

    Facebook is spending at least $10 billion this year on its metaverse division

    Eight things we learned from the Facebook Papers

    Facebook is planning to rebrand the company with a new name


    Transcript:

    https://www.theverge.com/e/22517027


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Andrew Marino and we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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    Adobe's Scott Belsky on how NFTs will change creativity Oct 26, 2021
    Show notes

    Adobe is one of those companies that I don’t think we pay enough attention to — it’s been around since 1982, and the entire creative economy runs through its software. You don’t just edit a photo, you Photoshop it. We spend a lot of time on Decoder talking about the creator economy, but creators themselves spend all their time working in Adobe’s tools. On this episode, I’m talking to Scott Belsky, chief product officer at Adobe, about the new features coming to their products, many of which focus on collaboration, and about creativity broadly — who gets to be a creative, where they might work, and how they get paid.


    Transcript


    Links:

    NFTs Explained

    Adobe brings a simplified Photoshop to the web

    Adobe is adding a collaborative mood board to Creative Cloud

    Soon you can use Photoshop to prepare your art as an NFT

    The Dog Ramps Tweet

    The Furry Lisa, CryptoArt, & The New Economy Of Digital Creativity

    A $120,000 Banana Is Peeled From an Art Exhibition and Eaten

    Adobe and Twitter are designing a system for permanently attaching artists’ names to pictures

    "I still own you" clip


    Credits:

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andrew Marino and we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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