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    Dear Art Producer

    Dear Art Producer connects the photography and video community with art producers in the advertising community. This podcast introduces you to different art producers, share the stories of their diverse career paths, explore what it means to stay relevant and examine industry topics such as marketing, estimating, directing, websites and more.

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    041: Haley Silverman, Freelance Integrated Producer Jan 27, 2020
    Show notes

    Haley Silverman joins the podcast to share her experience working as a freelance integrated producer in many different agencies. She speaks to the industry changes she has seen, the most important things to have on your website, the advantages and disadvantages of working freelance, and her distracting Corgi.

    Key Takeaways

    [:30] Heather introduces Haley and asks her to share the story of how she made her way into production by way of being a rep and going crew side!

    [5:11] Haley touches on what each of the roles she played has given her both professionally and personally.

    [6:23] Who did Haley meet on her very first commercial shoot? And you'll be surprised to find out what her creative outlet is — Heather and Haley digress a little!

    [7:21] Haley on obstacles she overcame and what freelancing has allowed in terms of freedom from politics; Heather shares her own story in that regard.

    [9:36] Having freelanced at many different agencies, Haley shares her perspective on the changes and trends she has witnessed, starting with the de-siloing of production departments.

    [12:40] Getting and staying in touch with Haley doesn't go through promos so much anymore, but email is a great way to keep up-to-date and schedule meetings — an important note though: be careful with name spelling; getting it wrong shows a lack of attention to detail. Haley and Heather share good tips on getting yourself noticed the right way.

    [17:23] Haley's resources for finding photographers and directors range from her own selection of bookmarks to the new app Komyoon — she takes a moment to explain how it works — as well as some events.

    [23:30] Getting jobs approved is now long and arduous, Haley walks us through the usual process for her as well as the reasons why things tend to take so long!

    [25:30] Haley takes us through the usual client meetings as well as what they see, what they get, and what they generally ask for.

    [26:55] Common photographer and rep misconceptions on the process.

    [28:11] Heather shares a situation that happened to her and asks Haley about her take on it: how much is too much? Haley shares how she feels about letting down the people that haven't had the job.

    [33:27] Haley does more motion than still these days; she chances some thoughts on why and how she chooses photographers and directors for the print/motion jobs.

    [35:24] To be considered for motion, show some categorized experience on your website as well as some variety.

    [37:12] What is Haley know for on her teams?

    [38:16] Making and eating pizza is Haley's favorite thing to do on a Sunday! And finally, @corgitails is worth a visit and Haley shares what she would do if she wasn't an art producer.

    [40:39] Heather thanks Haley for coming on the podcast!

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

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    Komyoon

    @corgitails

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    Haley Silverman's website

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    Haley Silverman on Instagram

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    Heather Elder's Bio

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    Heather Elder on Facebook


    040: Milagros DeLaRosa, Senior Producer, Leo Burnett Jan 13, 2020
    Show notes

    Milagros has been in the industry for 30 years and she comes on the show to share her advice on the importance of relationships, what we should see on your website, and team synergy, as well as her best tips on the estimating process.

    Key Takeaways

    [:32] Heather introduces Milagros and asks her to share the story of how she made her way into the advertising industry from a political major as well as the people that shaped her path and propelled her forward.

    [4:04] Heather shares her own start as an account person when everything was so brand new and Milagros touches on the industry's hay day — but come to terms with it 'cause it's gone!

    [9:45] Getting Milagros' attention goes primarily through email, but she does enjoy the moments at Leo Burnett when the reps come in and share the recent work they have on their roster. She shares her e-classification system!

    [12:25] Milagros touches on how her team finds photographers for specific projects, it usually starts with six to seven photographers.

    [13:40] Websites are so very important and everybody has more than enough things to do in a day so ease of navigation is paramount! Milagros also enjoys seeing the more personal side of a photographer — showcase some of your personal work too! She also touches on the importance of reps.

    [18:08] The creative teams also play a role in the types of photographers they look for; personalities have to agree! So pay attention to the conversations you have with the prospective teams, they are more important than you know.

    [20:45] Milagros will still consider a photographer who has no motion on their site, and in any case, it sometimes needs to be two separate people. She speaks to how much education she still has to impart to clients surrounding motion.

    [23:50] Leo Burnet's firm bid structure provides a lot of positive aspects, Milagros touches on the flexibility that is still required once you arrive on set.

    [27:25] Heather asks Milagros to break down the estimating process on her side — from initial reviews to cost consulting to client meetings — and though there may sometimes be a front-runner, Milagros' team always presents three candidates they would be happy working with.

    [30:30] Milagros' tips for the estimating process are simple but important: be clear, take notes, and speak up if something seems off to you.

    [31:35] Treatments are more important for projects that include motion and about 60% of the projects she bids require them, but when they are in play, it's critical to give it all you've got and make a mark for yourself.

    [37:20] The worst part of Milagros' job is letting people know they didn't get the job. Heather and her guest discuss the importance of having that conversation after the fact, all the while keeping in mind that everyone is just so crazy busy!

    [41:59] Who am I bidding against is a question best answered after the fact.

    [45:03] Would you have guessed that Milagros is shy, focused, and kind — maybe the last two!

    [47:50] If she wasn't an art producer, Milagros would be a location photographer.

    [48:50] Heather thanks Milagros for coming on the podcast!

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    Leo Burnett

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    Heather Elder's Bio

    Heather Elder's Blog

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    039: Kelly Montez, CEO and Agent at Apostrophe Reps Jan 07, 2020
    Show notes

    Today on the podcast, we welcome superstar agent Kelly Montez, CEO of Apostrophe reps. She's been an agent for 18 years and has been a first-hand witness to the many changes affecting our industry.

    Tune in for our first in-depth conversation with a rep on the importance of community, exciting industry changes, and the need for law degrees!

    Key Takeaways

    [:32] Heather introduces Kelly and asks her to share the story of how she made her way into the advertising industry and the people and businesses that shaped her path and propelled her forward.

    [6:18] Find out what advice Heather gave Kelly when she was starting out that she still finds worth sharing in both professional and personal settings!

    [9:40] Kelly shares how motion and brand direct conversations are the most exciting changes she is currently fielding in the industry. She touches on how it affects working relationships, the photographers and the entire creative process.

    [11:44] 80% of the bids that come in have some motion aspect to them, and as a result, all of Kelly's photographers do motion at differing levels.

    [13:33] Kelly shares some interesting feedback she's been getting from agencies with regards to 2020!

    [14:50] Listeners have been asking for Heather to talk to a rep, wondering what different roles they perform. Kelly obliges and dives right into the meat of what it is to rep for photographers.

    [18:00] Kelly shares the one thing that will most predictably lead to new and recurrent work.

    [21:20] The rep job has changed at the same pace as the industry, Kelly shares what her work used to be like as well as the aspects that have remained the same.

    [24:22] Heather and Kelly discuss the ever-growing contracts and legal requests and their implications, and both ladies have come to think they should have gotten law degrees!

    [29:40] How does a photographer define success? Kelly touches on the professional and personal growth of her artists, which leads to a discussion on treatments and creativity.

    [36:35] If we've never worked together, be upfront about the budget! Heather and Kelly discuss the differences between working with new brands or inexperienced brands and big established companies.

    [40:50] Getting Kelly's attention is difficult! But when she looks into new artists, they often come up through the agency's styling division. However, they work with a lot of off-roster artists.

    [49:15] Being part of a bigger community.

    [51:20] Heather thanks Kelly for coming on the podcast!

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    Apostrophe Reps

    More about your host

    Heather Elder's Bio

    Heather Elder's Blog

    Heather Elder on Instagram

    Heather Elder on Twitter

    Heather Elder on LinkedIn

    Heather Elder on Facebook

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    Kelly Montez on LinkedIn


    038: Michael Bilbrey, Senior Production Consultant at Leo Burnett Dec 02, 2019
    Show notes

    Mike Bilbrey has been with Leo Burnett for 28 years; he comes on the show today to share an enormous wealth of experience and share his tips and advice on subjects ranging from bidding to ideal website maintenance. Tune in for an in-depth discussion with Mike, the unflappable industry veteran!

    Key Takeaways

    [:32] Heather introduces Michael Bilbrey and asks him to share the story of how he made his way into the advertising industry.

    [7:02] Leo Burnett was taken over by a holding company; Mike shares how it affected the company — knowing that once you're a Burnetter you're always a Burnetter!

    [8:43] Mike shares something surprising about himself, and what it taught him that he uses in his career, he also touches on what it takes to be a good producer.

    [14:17] Leo Burnett wrote the book on bidding — and they wrote it well — Mike and Heather dive into the details of the firm bid process.

    [26:17] Email blasts are a great way to keep in touch with Mike, and he explains how to time them appropriately. He speaks to the importance of meeting people in person and keeping your e-file cabinet up to date.

    [34:00] Mike shares his thoughts and tips on how to maintain a good website. He also shares a suggestion for photographers that have clients who don't give showing permission.

    [37:29] Mike touches on the bidding process, creative calls, his advice on delivering a good treatment and what it takes to get a job approved. He also stresses the importance of talking to the people who didn't get the job.

    [48:08] Michael shares a story on honesty when it comes to bidding — and please make sure your math adds up.

    [57:42] Heather thanks Mike for coming on the podcast and takes a moment to thank listeners for tuning in for 38 wonderful episodes and signs off until the new year!

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    Leo Burnett

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    Heather Elder's Bio

    Heather Elder's Blog

    Heather Elder on Instagram

    Heather Elder on Twitter

    Heather Elder on LinkedIn

    Heather Elder on Facebook

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    Michael Bilbrey on LinkedIn


    037: Sandra Sanchez, Senior Art Producer, FCB Chicago Nov 18, 2019
    Show notes

    Sandra loves partnering with creatives to weave visual stories. She is energetic, insightful, and generous and comes on the show today to shares her experience as well as a heap of invaluable tips. Tune in for a very dynamic episode!

    Key Takeaways

    [:32] Heather introduces Sandra Sanchez and asks her to share how she made her way into art production from studying journalism and PR. She shares a surprising fact about herself.

    [7:45] Having worked under a decade in the industry is still enough time for Sandra to have seen changes.

    [10:37] It seems to be more difficult for broadcast producers to learn art production than the other way around, Heather and Sandra share their thoughts on why that may be.

    [15:20] Motion is a frequent ask, and more of it comes with bigger productions. Sandra speaks to how she chooses trustworthy people for her larger projects.

    [18:40] Sandra Shares a bunch of tips for photographers' websites and talks about what makes a good site for an art producer.

    [20:39] On getting Sandra's attention — she details part of her filing system both on and offline. Instagram is something Sandra will visit, but it's not a primary tool.

    [27:04] The estimating process begins with Sandra as early as possible (sometimes with the brief); she walks us through the steps necessary from there.

    [33:07] Who should choose a producer? Heather shares her recent challenges.

    [36:44] Sandra and Heather talk about the creative call imperatives. Heather shares a question she would like to hear on creative calls.

    [44:18] Facetime, Zoom, Google Hangouts are things Sandra would like to try to get a feel for body language!

    [45:07] What makes a good treatment?

    [47:50] If Sandra wasn't doing art production, she would work with animals — in a very specific place!

    [49:10] Heather thanks Sandra for coming on the podcast and invites listeners to tune in for the next episode.

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    FCB Chicago

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    Heather Elder's Bio

    Heather Elder's Blog

    Heather Elder on Instagram

    Heather Elder on Twitter

    Heather Elder on LinkedIn

    Heather Elder on Facebook

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    Sandra Ann Sanchez on LinkedIn


    036: Monica Zaffarano, Photoshoot Producer and Founder of Trybe Production Collective Nov 11, 2019
    Show notes

    Today's episode is an expansion on the Dear Art Producer format! Monica Zaffarano, Photoshoot Producer and Founder of Trybe Production Collective comes on the podcast to share her experience on the importance of relationships, the growing prevalence of motion, and how to stay relevant in a changing industry.

    Key Takeaways

    [:32] Heather introduces Monica Zaffarano and asks her to share how she made her way into production from ballet, musical theater, and acting.

    [5:45] Monica speaks about how Trybe Production Collective came about, the constantly evolving industry and why she ended up having to also do some freelance art buying!

    [11:15] Heather touches on a public collaboration idea she has been toying with regards to producers — but she has her hands full!

    [12:39] Monica and Heather speak to having a second person.

    [14:44] How does Monica keep it all together? Balance and boundaries are important, don't say yes to too many things.

    [18:47] Most jobs have motion in them now, Monica details what that means operationally with her photographers and their DPs and crews.

    [21:13] Monica talks about the estimating process and breaks down the things reps and photographers can do to make the process smoother!

    [26:02] Reduce your rate or reduce shoot days? Monica shares how she chooses to share and show discounts.

    [27:30] Bidding multiple photographers on the same project happens, Monica learned some early lessons from those.

    [30:25] Monica speaks to fostering creativity on set and with her photographers — listening comes first and have lots of food. Heather and Monica open a parenthesis on treatments: they are super informing and good ones have clarity and a good balance of visuals and approach.

    [36:48] On the impetus for the drop/ocean quote on Monica's website, the Trybe logo, and the recurring theme of "us" and relationships on the podcast and in this industry.

    [41:23] What do photographers need to do to stay relevant?

    [44:12] If not production, what would Monica do?

    [45:24] Heather thanks Monica for coming on the podcast and invites listeners to tune in for the next episode.

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    Trybe Production Collective

    "Individually we are one drop, together we are an ocean." — Ryunosuke Satoro

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    Heather Elder's Bio

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    035: Melanie Trombly, Senior Art Producer at VSA Partners in Chicago Nov 04, 2019
    Show notes

    Melanie Trombly shares a healthy dose of energy and experience, both production and agency side; tune in for an interesting discussion covering the creative call, snail-mail, and serendipitous dogs on Instagram!

    Key Takeaways

    [:55] Heather introduces Melanie Trombly and asks her to share how she made her way into art production from touring and selling t-shirts to catalog houses — Melanie includes some tidbits about her stint in New Zealand working in a warehouse and as a tiler!

    [6:04] Melanie touches on the changes she has been seeing in the industry starting with the introduction of CGI, which leads to a conversation on the benefits of knowing the many facets of production in your agency.

    [11:42] Melanie speaks to the importance of communication when it comes to bids; she shares the process at her agency and touches on the client education she has to do.

    [17:30] The creative call is so important, Melanie shares her experience of a bad one as well as how she tries to make sure everyone has the right information in hand. She also shares if and when a rep should be on the creative calls. Heather and Melanie share what they each think is critical to happen in a call.

    [25:] What catches a creative's eye? Treatments are something Melanie tries to only use if absolutely necessary, but she will ask for mood boards and additional images to share with her creative.

    [30:30] Melanie is one of those people who love snail-mail. Her experience with agency firewalls and important emails getting put in the spam folder has been terrible! She touches on portfolio shows and other resources she uses to research photographers.

    [36:14] Instagram is a tool that Melanie loves but make sure it's interesting and updated. She will accept follows if she has met you — and meeting in person is super important.

    [40:43] If Melanie wasn't doing this, what would she be doing?

    [41:15] Heather thanks Melanie for coming on the podcast, and invites listeners to tune in for the next episode.

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

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    VSA Partners, Chicago

    BlinkBid

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    Heather Elder's Bio

    Heather Elder's Blog

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    Melanie Trombley on LinkedIn


    034: Jamie Zimmermann, Art Producer, FCB Chicago Oct 28, 2019
    Show notes

    Jamie Zimmermann is new to art producing; she joins the show to give a fresh perspective. Having been a rep, she shares how having seen both sides of the fence impacts how she tackles the job.

    Key Takeaways

    [:55] Heather introduces Jamie Zimmerman and asks her to share the path that took her from studying photography in college, production, and repping, to where she is today.

    [4:45] Having been a rep, Jamie shares how she chooses to handle letting people know when they haven't made the cut. Heather and Jamie also discuss what to do with large bid discrepancies.

    [8:13] Jamie touches on the budget differences she sees working with younger photographers as well as how social shoots manage to work with scrappier budgets.

    [11:44] Finding photographers for Jamie primarily goes through reps, because of the support system.

    [12:29] What advice does Jamie have for unrepped photographers looking to get hired?

    [14:27] Jamie will check a photographer's Instagram to get a feel for their personality, but the creative calls are the biggest opportunity for photographers to shine: do make sure you talk!

    [18:55] Treatments are one way for photographers to show images they might not otherwise have had the opportunity to share, but they should always keep the client in mind: their vision needs to be readable by non-creatives as well (read almost literal).

    [23:06] Once the creative calls and treatments are in, Jamie finds that most of the time a clear front-runner will have appeared.

    [25:46] On sharing who bid, Jamie and Heather share their points of view and some interesting personal experiences.

    [32:35] Motion is an increasing ask — especially cinemagraphs — if motion doesn't appear on a photographer's website, she will move on to the next.

    [36:24] What does her team say about her? Jamie's answer leads to a discussion on building strong relationships, transparency, and trust.

    [40:54] If not art production, what would Jamie do?

    [41:30] Heather thanks Jamie for coming on the podcast, and invites listeners to tune in for the next episode.

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    FCB Chicago

    Sandra Ann Sanchez

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    Heather Elder's Bio

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    033: Dawn Kleidon, VP, Senior Art Producer, FCB Health New York Oct 21, 2019
    Show notes

    Dawn comes on the show today and dives into a multitude of subjects ranging from photography not being the only option anymore, to where she picks photographers from, to the paramount importance of relationships — she shares what you should never hesitate to do if you're looking to get yourself out there.

    Key Takeaways

    [2:05] Heather introduces Dawn and invites her to talk about how she built her career at FCB Health, grew within the organization starting as a creative assistant straight out of college, and who some key people were in shaping the path that took her to where she is today.

    [9:23] In an industry that has seen so much change, Dawn touches on the increased workload that is required of people in a day thanks to technology, but also on the incredible variety of artistic visions we get to see because of it!

    [12:20] Dawn shares the crazy process of getting to the final three photographer choices starting with concepting — and the months and months of back and forth with the clients to hone in on what they need, even if that's photography!

    [14:35] Concepting is different in different formats whether it be animation, CGI, video or photography. Dawn talks about having clients testing multiple concepts at a time and having to manage all of those threads. Heather and Dawn discuss trends in format choices.

    [17:50] No is the usual answer Dawn gives to any photographer asking if they could have "done anything differently" to get a job: it all comes down to creatives falling in love with an image, or the creative calls going one way rather than the other.

    [20:41] On choosing photographers for bids — Workbook, AdEdge, and Agent and Rep websites are all places and tools Dawn draws inspiration for and uses to show her clients some options.

    [24:06] Heather and Dawn discuss the paramount importance of people and relationships in this industry, and Dawn stresses how critical it is that she be able to say "Yes, I have met them" when she's asked, "Do you know this photographer?"

    [30:58] What makes a go-to person? Dawn lists the values and qualities that make those people shine.

    [34:40] If you are a photographer and you are debating whether or not you should try to get that meeting. Don't. Always try — even trying counts!

    [37:45] Doing the right thing in business and being fair with people is the only way to do good business, and it goes a long way in the industry — everything comes back around.

    [39:46] Dawn touches on what the estimating process is like for her — ballparks are tricky but they're a start! — and how everything is geared at making sure everyone comes to a level playing field. She also talks about how she handles showing the estimates to the clients.

    [47:02] Telling people they didn't get the job, Dawn talks about why it's so important to her.

    [53:03] What would Dawn do if she wasn't an art producer?

    [53:39] Heather thanks Dawn for coming on the podcast, and invites listeners to tune in for the next episode.

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

    Mentioned in this episode

    FCB Health

    BBDO

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    Heather Elder's Bio

    Heather Elder's Blog

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    Heather Elder on Twitter

    Heather Elder on LinkedIn

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    Dawn Kleidon on LinkedIn


    032: Kimber Leigh Nussbaum, Senior Art Producer, UpShot, Chicago Oct 14, 2019
    Show notes

    Kimber Leigh Nussbaum went from the theater to art production and grew up in the Golden Age of advertising. She shares her thoughts on the hustle of freelancing, social platforms, their usefulness and what photographers don't know is shared about them behind the scenes.

    Key Takeaways

    [2:05] Heather introduces Kimber and invites her to share the path that took her from a theater actress and singer to being Dave Jordano's studio manager to where she is today.

    [6:12] Having "grown up" in the Golden Age of advertising photography, Kimber Leigh touches on the changes she has seen — starting with Dave Jordano's beginnings with digital photography — and how digital has impacted workloads and schedules.

    [8:10] Kimber touches on how the 2008 depression impacted the client/agency/photographer relationships — after having bent over backward and compromised to keep accounts with skeleton budgets and crews in a depressionary economy, clients got savvy and expected more for less.

    [9:33] The best way Kimber has found to tackle tough client conversations is to set clear expectations and communication.

    [12:42] What does a successful shoot look like? On time and under budget. Oh, and everyone getting along and having fun!

    [13:23] Kimber and Heather touch on the importance of a rep's role and the pros and cons inherent in trying a new photographer.

    [17:04] Getting Kimber's attention is independent of channels, it really is about the work, storylines, and images and how unique, new, cool or interesting they are. However, she advises to stay away from fold-outs: no one has an office anymore, go for small postcards if anything.

    [19:20] Instagram isn't a professional tool for her, but she does use online art producer Facebook communities. Heather and Kimber discuss the benefits of these groups as well as what photographers need to be mindful of in that regard.

    [24:12] LinkedIn is a great professional tool, and it helps that it was never meant to be a personal place.

    [26:00] Kimber walks us through the process of getting a job approved including the fact that every place and every job has a bit of a different process! The one thing she insists on is to try to remove the money hurdles and level the playing field so everyone can focus on the art.

    [30:44] Once the job is awarded, Kimber will share who was bidding if you ask her. She and Heather discuss the impacts this information can have on photographers.

    [36:20] Although Kimber does mostly print, she is interested in motion but being a freelancer, it's a bit harder to get agencies to train you! It'll be a future opportunity.

    [37:41] Kimber shares her tips for being a successful freelancer and the hustle that it requires.

    [39:51] What would Kimber do if she wasn't an Art Producer, actress or singer!

    [42:38] Heather thanks Kimber Leigh for coming on the podcast, and invites listeners to tune in for the next episode.

    Thanks for listening.

    In an industry where the rules are always changing, it's helpful to hear from those on the front line. Heather Elder is the visionary behind NotesFromARep'sJournal.com; visit her website for industry updates, stunning photography and video, and the artists behind the work.

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    Dave Jordano

    PhotoPolitic

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    Heather Elder's Bio

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