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    DarkHorse Podcast

    The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of “Covid Disinformation” Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you’ll like what you see!

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    #67: What the W.H.O? (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Feb 13, 2021
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    In this 67th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/CZk6yLF__Es
    Mentioned in this episode:
    CNN’s Becky Anderson interviews WHO commission spokesperson Peter Daszak: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/02/09/who-coronavirus-origin-wuhan-china-peter-daszak-interview-anderson-ctw-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus-intl/
    IUCN’s (International Union for Conservation of Nature) Red List on Melogale moschata, the Small-toothed Ferret Badger: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/41626/45209676#use-trade
    Mallapaty et al, February 10, 2021 Nature News article: ‘Major stones unturned’: COVID origin search must continue after WHO report, say scientists: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00375-7
    Ladapo, February 4, 2021 in the Wall Street Journal. The ‘Universal Vaccination’ Chimera: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-universal-vaccination-chimera-11612466130?mod=opinion_lead_pos5
    UC Berkeley bans solitary, outdoor exercise: https://www.sfgate.com/education/article/Police-dorms-outdoor-exercise-UC-Berkeley-lockdown-15937294.php
    The Oregon Dept of Human Services jumps the same Covid shark, over and over and over again: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/ORDHS/bulletins/2c097aa
    Casiraghi, L., Spiousas, I., Dunster, G.P., McGlothlen, K., Fernández-Duque, E., Valeggia, C. and Horacio, O., 2021. Moonstruck sleep: Synchronization of human sleep with the moon cycle under field conditions. Science Advances, 7(5), p.eabe0465. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/7/5/eabe0465.full.pdf
    Helfrich-Förster, C., Monecke, S., Spiousas, I., Hovestadt, T., Mitesser, O. and Wehr, T.A., 2021. Women temporarily synchronize their menstrual cycles with the luminance and gravimetric cycles of the Moon. Science Advances, 7(5), p.eabe1358. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/7/5/eabe1358.full.pdf
    This Week in Science: Moon Synchronicity: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6528/twis?utm_campaign=toc_sci-mag_2021-01-28&et_rid=337917989&et_cid=3646874
    Science News: Prozac turns guppies into ‘zombies’. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/prozac-turns-guppies-zombie

    Polverino, G., Martin, J.M., Bertram, M.G., Soman, V.R., Tan, H., Brand, J.A., Mason, R.T. and Wong, B.B., 2021. Psychoactive pollution suppresses individual differences in fish behaviour. Proceedings of the Royal Society B, 288(1944): 20202294. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2020.2294


    Amado, Jorge. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands. https://www.amazon.com/Dona-Flor-Her-Two-Husbands/dp/0307276643
    Heather on Biological Women’s Hour with Kellie-Jay Keen: https://youtu.be/QoGRWPSvZB8
    Heather on Savage Minds podcast with Julian Vigo: https://savageminds.substack.com/p/heather-heying?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy

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    DarkHorse Podcast with Daniel Schmachtenberger & Bret Weinstein Feb 11, 2021
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    The first DarkHorse podcast with Daniel Schmachtenberger.
    From his website: "Daniel Schmachtenberger’s central interest is long term civilization design: developing better collective capacities for sense-making and meaning-making, to inform higher quality choice-making…towards a world commensurate with our higher values and potentials."
    Find Daniel at: http://civilizationemerging.com/
    Find Daniel on the Neurohacker Collective: https://neurohacker.com/people/daniel-schmachtenberger
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

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    #66: All Biology is Evolutionary Biology (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Feb 06, 2021
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    In this 66th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by discussing what the increasing visibility of a viable hypothesis for the origins of SARS-CoV2 says about modern science and politics. Then: Is eating red meat inflammatory? Is saying that eating red meat is inflammatory, inflammatory? What would it mean for evolutionary biologists to “stay in their lane” (and why shouldn’t we)? What does “follow the science” mean when we are being told to wear masks in National Parks? Is the New York Times punking us, or did they seriously just suggest that encrypted messaging services are dangerous because untrue things are sometimes said? What is the null hypothesis—in general, and in particular, with regard to the origins of SARS-CoV2? Does Sony’s classification system of “human, animal and bird” make any sense, and does it matter? And finally: what are sidewinders and how do they move, what are mangroves, and what on Earth could the connection possibly be?
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/wyG5u_GR_AQ
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Luthra-Guptasarma, M. and Guptasarma, P., Inflammation begets hyper-inflammation in Covid-19: Diet-derived chronic inflammation promotes runaway acute inflammation resulting in cytokine storms. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Purnananda_Guptasarma/publication/341411711_Inflammation_begets_hyper-inflammation_in_Covid-19_Diet-derived_chronic_inflammation_promotes_runaway_acute_inflammation_resulting_in_cytokine_storms/links/5ec1efe9458515626cb0a596/Inflammation-begets-hyper-inflammation-in-Covid-19-Diet-derived-chronic-inflammation-promotes-runaway-acute-inflammation-resulting-in-cytokine-storms.pdf
    Domingo, J.L. and Nadal, M., 2017. Carcinogenicity of consumption of red meat and processed meat: a review of scientific news since the IARC decision. Food and chemical toxicology, 105, pp.256-261. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278691517302053
    Lindeberg, Staffan. 2010. Book: Food and Western Disease: Health and Nutrition from an Evolutionary Perspective.
    Executive Order, January 20, 2021. Executive Order on Protecting the Federal Workforce and Requiring Mask-Wearing: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-protecting-the-federal-workforce-and-requiring-mask-wearing/
    Meltzer, D.O., Best, T.J., Zhang, H., Vokes, T., Arora, V. and Solway, J., 2020. Association of vitamin D status and other clinical characteristics with COVID-19 test results. JAMA network open, 3(9), pp.e2019722-e2019722. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157
    The New York Times is punking us with this piece, right? Are Private Messaging Apps the Next Misinformation Hot Spot? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/technology/personaltech/telegram-signal-misinformation.html?searchResultPosition=1
    Brad Moon’s 5 types of snake locomotion: https://userweb.ucs.louisiana.edu/~brm2286/locomotn.htm <

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    #65: Because Science (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Jan 30, 2021
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    In this 65th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by offering gratitude to Bill Maher and his crew for having us on on January 29—but why didn’t Heather answer his question about vaccines? She does so here, and we discuss a bit more about vaccine technology (also see episode 58 for more on that). Next: What does consensus look like in science, and when are we looking at forced consensus, one which may not accurately reflect underlying reality? What does this have to do with the “lab leak hypothesis” regarding the origin of SARS-CoV2? Following that: how does diet affect COVID—either in terms of mitigating risk of contracting it, or of reducing symptoms if you have it? Short advice: eat more ferment, and buy local. We finish by talking about tuna, and sea stars.
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/WIC3sx4F2Qg
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Dolgin 2020. COVID-19 vaccines poised for launch, but impact on pandemic unclear. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41587-020-00022-y
    Butler 2015. Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research. https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-%201.18787?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=3_nsn6445_deeplink_PID100072647&utm_content=deeplink
    Relman 2020. Opinion: To stop the next pandemic, we need to unravel the origins of COVID-19. https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/117/47/29246.full.pdf
    Karesh et al 2012. Ecology of zoonoses: natural and unnatural histories. https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2812%2961678-X
    Bousquet et al 2020. Cabbage and fermented vegetables: From death rate heterogeneity in countries to candidates for mitigation strategies of severe COVID-19. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32762135/
    Bousquet et al 2020. Is diet partly responsible for differences in COVID-19 death rates between and within countries? https://ctajournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13601-020-00323-0?fbclid=IwAR3ljFDFU6cI9Hg_NwvKFdPF6YhvRWGYiq2ddtNuSYfrJTUJ539V3Ml5Mvo
    Rishi et al 2020. Diet, Gut Microbiota and COVID-19. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33012868/
    Iddir et al 2020. Strengthening the Immune System and Reducing Inflammation and Oxidative Stress through Diet and Nutrition: Considerations during the COVID-19 Crisis. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32471251/
    There’s no tuna in my tuna! https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/01/27/subway-tuna-lawsuit/

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    #64: The Data Are Going to be Phenomenal! (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Jan 23, 2021
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    In this 64th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by discussing some of the Biden administration’s early policy decisions: shutting down DAPL, rejoining the Paris Agreement on Climate, and affirming the rights of trans people (and in so doing putting the rights of women at risk). Rolling Stone (the magazine) jumps the shark (but is it a literal or a metaphorical shark?). We discuss how to survive a year of lockdowns if you’re a small business, calling on two anecdotes from Portland. We discuss what is happening at Powell’s, Portland’s massive, independent bookstore, and ask what it says about “mostly peaceful” protests. Tech censorship is continuing apace, with the removal of Game-B architects from Facebook. And a doctor advises us to “trust the science,” saying that “the data is phenomenal!”
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/YTNEcQHIHV4
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Executive Order from January 20, 2021, on Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/
    Washington Post article from January 19, 2021, “Biden selects transgender doctor Rachel Levine as assistant health secretary”: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/19/rachel-levine-transgender-biden-hhs-pick/
    Washington Post article from June 1, 2016, “Meet Rachel Levine, one of the very few transgender public officials in America”: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/meet-rachel-levine-one-of-the-very-few-transgender-public-officials-in-america/2016/06/01/cf6e2332-2415-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html?itid=lk_interstitial_manual_10
    Rolling Stone jumps the shark (“Rolling Stone seeks 'thought leaders' willing to pay $2,000 to write for them”) https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/23/rolling-stone-magazine-culture-council-publication
    “Vaccine Voices” from the January 21, 2021 newsletter from the Oregon Health Authority’s Coronavirus Update: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/ORDHS/bulletins/2baa334

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    #63: Beg Your Pardon (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Jan 16, 2021
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    In this 63rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by discussing impeachment, pardons, and the Federalist papers, taking lessons from America’s history. Then we discuss a new research paper that finds that asymptomatic COVID cases account for half of all infections—is the research well-done, the model founded, the conclusions warranted? We discuss the fact that Oceania (New Zealand and Australia) have implemented such successful COVID containment measures that they are delaying vaccinations for a bit. And we end with a tale of two bald eagles and their nest, speaking also to other birds and their nests—swallows, Steller’s jays, robins.
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/Zy0gt66WUyo
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Johansson et al 2021. SARS-CoV-2 Transmission From People Without COVID-19 Symptoms: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707?utm_source=silverchair&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_alert-jamanetworkopen&utm_term=mostread&utm_content=olf-widget_01152021
    Lee et al 2020. Clinical course and molecular viral shedding among asymptomatic and symptomatic patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community treatment center in the Republic of Korea. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2769235
    Chaw et al 2020. Analysis of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in different settings, Brunei. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/11/20-2263_article
    Mc Evoy et al 2020. The relative infectiousness of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infected persons compared with symptomatic individuals: a rapid scoping review. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.30.20165084v1
    Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security on how Oceania is preparing for vaccinations: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/COVID-19-Updates---January-15--2021.html?soid=1107826135286&aid=DdaibXsFn20

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    #62: Tyranny Comes at you Fast (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Jan 09, 2021
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    In this 62nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we discuss the value of gratitude, always but especially now. We pivot to the lab leak hypothesis, and what its discussion in the mainstream media means for the ability of society at large to consider what might be true regarding the origins of SARS-CoV2. We discuss what happened in the Capitol on January 6, and and the ensuing censorship and purges by the big tech platforms. We see the boot coming down hard and fast, with calls from U.S. Representatives to refocus our concern on events and enemies within our own borders. Finally, a reading from Thich Nhat Hanh’s 2012 book, Fear: Essential Wisdom for Getting Through the Storm.
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/CS3w9zOGvmw
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Baker 2020. The Lab Leak Hypothesis. Published in New York Magazine: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html
    Klotz & Sylvester 2012. The unacceptable risks of a man-made pandemic. Published in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists: https://thebulletin.org/2012/08/the-unacceptable-risks-of-a-man-made-pandemic/
    Op-ed by Aaron Zubia in the Wall Street Journal, The Founders’ Guide to ‘Knock Down, Drag Out’ Fighting: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-founders-guide-to-knock-down-drag-out-fighting 11610133634?st=xwxxiioo6trfkag&reflink=article_email_share
    Johnstone 2020. The Boot Is Coming Down Hard And Fast. Published in Medium: https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/the-boot-is-coming-down-hard-and-fast-5e05befc156a

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    DarkHorse Podcast with Jeremy Lee Quinn & Bret Weinstein: The Capitol Insurrection, A View from Inside Jan 09, 2021
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    Jeremy Lee Quinn is an independent investigative photo journalist who was at the Capitol during the breach on January 6, 2021, he discusses with Bret what he learned during the event.
    Find Jeremy on The Public Report: https://www.publicreport.org/
    Find Jeremy on Twitter: @JLeeQuinn
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

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    #61: If Covid Policy Were Rational (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Jan 02, 2021
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    In this 61st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we discuss kambo, the poison of an Amazonian frog, which is being used by Americans who are seeking a purgative and possibly spiritual experience, but the people at the NYT once again reveal that they have no idea even how to speak science, much less assess it. From there, down the rabbit hole we go to a discussion of the different diets of four Amazonian tribes. We then discuss the politicization of science, in discussion of the COVID-19 vaccine from the Oregon Healthcare Authority, possible drug treatments for COVID, and a third, promising vaccine which is on the horizon. We also reveal that Ted Wheeler, mayor of Portland, has said some mean things about antifa. At the top of this episode, we reveal new “First Against the Wall Club” merchandise, and make a correction from episode #60, regarding the Evergreen locker room story.
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/xIwi04yhYUU
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Can you poison your way to good health? New York Times article from January 1, 2021: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/style/self-care/kambo-tree-frog-detox.html?referringSource=articleShare
    Hesselink 2018. Kambo and its Multitude of Biological Effects: Adverse Events or Pharmacological Effects? https://clinmedjournals.org/articles/iacp/international-archives-of-clinical-pharmacology-iacp-4-017.php?jid=iacp
    Milton 1992. Comparative aspects of diet in Amazonian forest-dwellers. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rstb.1991.0114
    In Far-Flung Places, COVID-19 Is Being Treated Early And Well. Here’s Why Americans Don’t Know This. December 27, 2020: https://trialsitenews.com/in-far-flung-places-covid-19-is-being-treated-early-and-well-heres-why-americans-dont-know-this/
    Website devoted to providing research on drug treatments for COVID-19 (recently censored by twitter): https://c19ivermectin.com/faq.html

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    #60: Do Not Eat! (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream) Dec 26, 2020
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    In this 60th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org
    Find more from us on Bret’s website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (http://heatherheying.com).
    Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon.
    Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret’s Paypal.
    Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Here are some, updated frequently: @DarkHorse Podcast Clips
    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
    Q&A Link: https://youtu.be/kdJIA1G1_KQ

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