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    DarkHorse Podcast

    The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of “Covid Disinformation” Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you’ll like what you see!

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    Why Darwin was Right: The 222nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Apr 24, 2024
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    In this 222nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss evolution, and how we know that it is true. We discuss the different kinds of beliefs that people have—beliefs that attempt to reconcile with reality, vs beliefs that reconcile with social standing and comfort. If your beliefs put you on the outs with your friends, do you change your beliefs, or your friends? Are you willing to give up the cocktail party for reality? We also discuss research published in 2000 and funded by Fauci’s NIAID, which demonstrated that it was possible to make chimeric coronaviruses, swapping the spike protein from one to a different species entirely. Finally: sex-biased gene expression, in which genes are expressed differently in the two sexes, in anatomical systems as varied as brain, kidneys, and liver.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    Kennedy 2023. The Wuhan Cover-Up and the Terrifying Bio-Weapons Arms Race: https://www.skyhorsepublishing.com/9781510773981/the-wuhan-cover-up/
    Kuo et al 2000. Retargeting of coronavirus by substitution of the spike glycoprotein ectodomain: crossing the host cell species barrier. Journal of virology, 74(3):1393-1406: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/jvi.74.3.1393-1406.2000
    Rodríguez-Montes et al 2023. Sex-biased gene expression across mammalian organ development and evolution. Science 382(6670), p.eadf1046: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adf1046

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    The Untold Story of Polio – Forrest Maready on DarkHorse Apr 20, 2024
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    Forrest Maready is the author of “The Moth in the Iron Lung”, among other books. It tells a very different story of the Polio epidemic than the one you are likely familiar with, a story with radically different implications for health and medicine. Bret talks with Forest about his book and his interpretation of the evidence with an evolutionary bent to the conversation.
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    Babies Not on the Level: The 221st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Apr 17, 2024
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    In this 221st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss men competing against women in women’s sport, and the new research that shows there’s no problem at all. We are in a world of science cosplay, full of science skin suits. Then: cancel culture and its mirror image: promotion culture. The promotion of zombies to positions of power is a weapon of the culture. Also, if wisdom is about delayed gratification, and the counter-intuitive, and being comfortable with uncertainty, then we are in a society of deeply unwise people, a society led by people with the minds of children—just like in The Twilight Zone. Finally: how cats and humans communicate with one another by narrowing our eyes at each other.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    Hamilton et al 2024. Strength, power and aerobic capacity of transgender athletes: a cross-sectional study. British Journal of Sports Medicine: https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/early/2024/04/10/bjsports-2023-108029.full.pdf
    Hilton and Lundberg 2021. Transgender women in the female category of sport: perspectives on testosterone suppression and performance advantage. Sports Medicine, 51: 199-214: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s40279-020-01389-3.pdf
    Feynman’s Cargo Cult Science: https://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm
    Biden v Clifton Duncan: https://x.com/cliftonaduncan/status/1780532643051741657
    Freddy Sayers at UnHerd: The Disinformation Industry: https://unherd.com/2024/04/inside-the-disinformation-industry/
    Katherine Maher, new CEO of NPR, on the First Amendment: https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1780597079439446250
    Humphrey et al 2020. The role of cat eye narrowing movements in cat–human communication. Scientific Reports, 10(1): 16503: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-73426-0

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    Intellectual Stockholm Syndrome: The 220th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Apr 06, 2024
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    In this 220th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss the modern Dark Age. Topics include informational advantage, entropy, and reason. We discuss whether all static rules are gameable, and whether adjusting your model to increase predictive power can help you evade the sophists. We also ask what people in North Korea actually think about their lives relative to the rest of the world, and how their situation is analogous to that of people who have been kidnapped, or to that of a populace that is convinced by authorities to do things that are against their interests. At what scales does Stockholm Syndrome apply? We also discuss confidence and humility, intellectual obstructionism, and the value of track records.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    Excerpt from Chandler Burr’s book about Luca Turin, The Emperor of Scent: https://chandlerburr.com/books
    Mattias Desmet’s The Psychology of Totalitarianism: https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/
    Evolutionary Lens Livestream 121 from April 2, 2022, Welcome to the Noble Psy-Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrfL6fRW150

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    Normalizing Normativity: The 219th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Apr 03, 2024
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    In this 219th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss evolution and intelligent design, and why the failures of institutions and institutional science during Covid are causing people to question everything that science has concluded. We also discuss motonormativity—aka car brain—both steel manning it as a concept, and critiquing the research that named the phenomenon. Finally: sex chromosomes in cephalopods (octopus and their kin)—older than you think.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    “Giving Up Darwin” - Gelernter’s review of Meyers’ book: https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/giving-up-darwin/
    Motonormativity: critical car theory (at Principled Bicycling): https://substack.com/home/post/p-142960056
    Walker et al 2023. Motonormativity: how social norms hide a major public health hazard: https://www.inderscienceonline.com/doi/abs/10.1504/IJENVH.2023.135446?af=R
    Oldest known animal sex chromosome evolved in octopuses 380 million years ago: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00637-0
    Coffing et al 2024. Cephalopod Sex Determination and its Ancient Evolutionary Origin Revealed by Chromosome-level Assembly of the California Two-Spot Octopus: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.02.21.581452v2.full.pdf

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    Covid Through a Pathologists Eye: Ryan Cole on DarkHorse Mar 30, 2024
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    Bret Speaks with Ryan Cole about his role as a Covid dissident over the last 4 years, and his unique viewpoint as a pathologist.
    Find Ryan Cole on X: @drcole12 (https://twitter.com/drcole12)
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    Original Syndrome: The 218th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Mar 27, 2024
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    In this 218th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss plants, a lot, in service of understanding what a “syndrome” is, and why it matters. This is not mere semantics, but if you feel that it is, focus on the tropical forests instead! There are plenty of bats to go around. What can you predict about the pollinators of flowers that are bright and showy and have no smell? How about those that are white and have a musty smell? What can you predict about jungle trees that grow fast and die young? How does such predictive power and pattern recognition relate to how to make sense of the world in which you live? Also: update from Panama: the San Vicente Camp is now closed, and a fire has apparently destroyed all of its records. Curious, that.
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    San Vicente Camp in Panama destroyed: https://apnews.com/article/panama-migrants-darien-colombia-disturbance-6d45b7fc7f581ad0c0a8bcff7247b9bf
    Introduction to Antipode: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/antipode-introduction

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    Unsettling Science – Rebutting the Experts Mar 24, 2024
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    Bret Swanson put together an excellent slide deck to accompany this podcast, find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5vaooui2r15zayv1kl2ye/2024-3-23-Dan-Wilson-Response-Slide-Deck.pdf?rlkey=3t5uizv3e0gep2q3vydouwtl7&dl=0
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    Find Bret Swanson on Substack: http://infonomena.substack.com/
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    Find Joomi Kim on Substack: https://joomi.substack.com/
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    Krauson Et Al. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-023-00742-7
    Roltgen Et Al. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9
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    Nunez Castilla Et Al. https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/14/7/1415
    Can Li Et Al. https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/74/11/1933/6353927
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    Age Stratified Excess Mortality: https://infonomena.substack.com/p/society-of-actuaries-shows-continued
    Hoshino Et Al. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35812802/
    --Other Sources--
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    Norman Fenton “Cheap Trick” Statistical Games: https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/the-very-best-of-cheap-trick

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    The Question is Moot: The 217th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Mar 20, 2024
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    In this 217th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss the Supreme Court, the First Amendment, Covid, censorship, DEI, the Rawlsian Veil of Ignorance, and affirmative action, in the context of Murthy v State of Missouri. We also talk about Goliath being a combination of emergence and collusion, and how facts are being used to support existing narratives, rather than stories being constructed using all of the facts. We discuss two explosive pieces of research that dropped this week—on the health risks of heat, and of intermittent fasting. And we briefly talk about why you should never cave to the mob (beaver edition).
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    Case File 23-411: Murthy v State of Missouri: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-411/299644/20240202144405984_2024-02-02%20-%20Murthy%20v.%20Missouri%20-%20Brief%20of%20Respondents%20-%20Final%20with%20Tables.pdf
    Hypothesis about Goliath: https://twitter.com/alexandrosm/status/1770219558990938294
    Sunbathing for just ONE DAY is super bad for you (except it’s not): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wellness-us/body/article-13215737/sunbathing-heart-disease-risk-skin-cancer.html
    Research Abstract: Associations Between Short-Term Outdoor Heat Measures and Markers of Immune
    Response and Inflammation: https://www.abstractsonline.com/pp8/#!/20343/presentation/484
    Research Abstract: Association Between Time-Restricted Eating and All-Cause and Cause-Specific
    Mortality: https://www.abstractsonline.com/pp8/#!/20343/presentation/379
    Never Cave to the Mob: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/never-cave-to-the-mob

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    Surgical Sophistry: The 216th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Mar 13, 2024
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    In this 216th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.
    In this episode, we discuss the WPATH files—internal documents from the World Professional Association on Transgender Health—which were released this month. In them, we find evidence that clinicians are encouraging hormonal and surgical interventions on young people who are too young to consent, have not been informed of the risks, and often have comorbidities. We also discuss an article by a trans-identified man who argues “the moral case for letting trans kids change their bodies.” Finally: the milk of amphibians.
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    The WPATH Files: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56a45d683b0be33df885def6/t/65e6d9bea9969715fba29e6f/1709627904275/U_WPATH+Report+and+Files.pdf
    Andrea Long Chu in New York magazine: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trans-rights-biological-sex-gender-judith-butler.html
    Amphibian Milk at Natural Selections: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/amphibian-milk

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