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Escaping Your Lane: The 289th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Aug 13, 2025

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Today we discuss the reasons not to stay in your lane, wildlife in the Pacific Northwest, and whether Americans want a handout, or to be left alone. First: Bret responds to critique from Geert Vanden Bossche on his characterization of intramuscular vaccines and their capacity to produce mucosal immunity. Then: how science discovers reality, the risks of reductionism, and a hypothesis that generalists are more immune to corruption than specialists. Then: bald eagles and foxes compete to scavenge seal meat on the shores of the Salish Sea. Meanwhile in Canada, people are told they can’t go into the woods. Finally: young, and urban, Americans are more likely than older, or rural Americans, to want a handout from the federal government.
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Geert tweet: https://x.com/GVDBossche/status/1955304851270738108
Nova Scotia: https://news.novascotia.ca/en/2025/08/05/travel-activities-woods-restricted-prevent-wildfires
New Brunswick: https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2025/08/09/stay-out-of-the-woods-new-brunswick-closing-crown-lands-due-to-extreme-wildfire-hazard/
Fox poll: https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1948170719860281405

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No Klan Do: Daryl Davis on DarkHorse Aug 11, 2025

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Daryl Davis on his experience engaging with members of the KKK, emphasizing the importance of dialogue, empathy, and understanding in breaking down barriers.
Find Dary Davis at https://daryldavisspeaking.com and on X at https://www.x.com/realdaryldavis
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Kennedy, Pharma, and the Battle over mRNA: The 288th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Aug 06, 2025

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Today we discuss the cancellation of mRNA vaccine contracts by Secretary Kennedy. What are the risks, are they as limited as he suggests, and what can we look forward to from this technology in the future? Conversation includes Covid and the Covid shots, repurposed drugs, and the nature of science and knowledge. What does it mean for a claim to be credible—socially, or analytically? What does MAHA stand for, are their limits to hypernovelty, and how can we return to a more ancestral environment?
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Mentioned in this episode:
Kennedy’s announcement: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1952851097019633766
BARDA (Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority): https://www.medicalcountermeasures.gov
The Psychology of Totalitarianism (Desmet 2022) https://amzn.to/4fuOlEO (commission earned)
The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life (Becker & Selden 1985) https://amzn.to/3UOUBO4 (commission earned)

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Dangers of the mental multiverse: The 287th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Jul 30, 2025

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Today we discuss “gender affirming surgeries”, AI and the future of cognition, and wild foxes. Kaiser Permanente is pausing surgery on trans-presenting children—we discuss sex and gender, meaning and identity, delusion and madness. Then: unlike the physical multiverse, mental multiverses are common, and becoming more so, as AI makes it ever more difficult to know what is true. We discuss grief, and how our worlds must fork when we think, but do not know, that someone has died. Similarly, when events are unclear—who was responsible for the death of President Kennedy in 1963? Are aliens visiting Earth—we must keep multiple mental universes alive in our heads at once. Correctives to this include meeting people in person, and embracing belief systems that have timeless value. Finally: more wild foxes, this time trying to eat a raccoon carcass. Included: discussion of the evolution of territoriality, parental care, and animal behavior more generally.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Kaiser Permanente pauses “gender-affirming surgery” for minors: https://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1948119275094552610
Do not affirm, do not comply: https://darkhorsestore.org/products/do-not-affirm-do-not-comply-t-shirt-unisex
From Myths to the Multiverse: How Knowledge Evolves w/ Bret Weinstein & Brett Hall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp8DevWKCic
Malaysia Airlines 370: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/search-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-suspended-end-year-rcna199653

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Can we have your liver? The 286th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Jul 21, 2025

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Today we discuss organ donation, and parenting in the animal world. Organ donation: how can we modify incentives so that people who need organs have a good chance of getting them, but people with healthy organs are never sent to an early death because their organs are valuable? Then: a natural history primer on parental care and feeding ecology of some local mammals and birds. What can be learned from observing the successful parenting of both barn swallows and red foxes?
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Mentioned in this episode:
NYT 2025: Push for more organ transplants puts donors at risk: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/20/us/organ-transplants-donors-alive.html
NYT 2003: Bret letter to the editor on organ donation and incentives: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/18/opinion/he-gave-of-himself-so-that-i-could-live-3-letters.html
Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life on organ transplants: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-pU8TFsg0
Cornell on barn swallows: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Barn_Swallow/overview
Avian Architecture: https://amzn.to/4f4Hxh5 (commission earned)

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The Truth About Nazi Doctors: A Conversation with Dr. Jonathan Hudson and Dr. Michael S. Bryant Jul 20, 2025

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Dr. Jonny Hudson and Dr. Michael S. Bryant on the subject of Nazi doctors.
Dr. Jonny Hudson has a PhD in Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Dr. Michael S. Bryant has a PhD in Modern European History and is a Professor of History and Legal Studies at Bryant University. He is also the author of “Confronting the ‘Good Death’: Nazi Euthanasia on Trial, 1945-53” and Nazi "Crimes and their Punishment."
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The Leverage Economy: The 285th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Jul 16, 2025

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Today we discuss Epstein, Trump, MAGA, and how we know what we think we know. The actual economy exists, as does the attention economy; now Bret introduces a new term: the leverage economy. This implies that there is a commodity that we cannot see, which can be used to coerce players to act in certain ways. We see evidence of this in academia, in the news, and in politics. Discussion includes data mining, conspiracy, and whether Trump will pick up neocons as he loses some of his base.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Goldberg in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/opinion/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files.html
Trump on truth social: https://x.com/chesschick01/status/1945498352507879536
Heinrichs in the Free Press: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-rights-1939-project

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YouTube Backs Down: The 284th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Jul 09, 2025

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Today we discuss YouTube, flash floods, science, and Epstein. First: a head injury explains our late start, but all is fine. Then: four years after being demonetized by YouTube, both of our channels have been remonetized. Why were we demonetized in the first place, and what did we refuse to do to get back in the good graces of YouTube? Also: flash floods are often tragic, but does it inherently follow that they are due to anthropogenic climate change? Similarly, does not believing that mRNA shots will work against Covid mean that you don’t believe in Covid? Finally: two competing hypotheses for what is going on with the federal government’s newest treatment of Epstein: are they covering for a peace deal in the Middle East, or are they being strong-armed by organized crime?
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Mentioned in this episode:
Brownstone Institute: https://brownstone.org
Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide: https://www.huntergatherersguide.com
Dodging the Buzz Saw (DHP #82): https://www.youtube.com/live/IOf6Lut6W7k
NYT on Trump & climate change: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/climate/trump-climate-energy-department.html
Scott Adams on Epstein: https://x.com/quotesfromcwsa/status/1942636561171972205

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The Truth About Real ID: Twila Brase, RN, PHN on DarkHorse Jul 06, 2025

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Bret Weinstein speaks with Twila Brase, RN, PHN on the subject of Real ID and why there is cause for concern, especially for medical freedom.
Find Twila Brase on X at x.com/twilabrase and at http://refuserealid.org.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Refuse Real ID http://refuserealid.org/
Real ID Act text: https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/real-id-act-text.pdf
Big Brother in the Exam Room: The Dangerous Truth about Electronic Health Records https://amzn.to/3IdRjAW (commission earned)Red Lined TSA Letter https://www.cchfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Red-Lined-TSA-letter-5.pdf
The rule also requires agencies to coordinate their plans with DHS, make the plans publicly available, and achieve full enforcement by May 5, 2027. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/01/14/2025-00484/minimum-standards-for-drivers-licenses-and-identification-cards-acceptable-by-federal-agencies-for

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When Good and Evil Collide: The 283rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying Jul 02, 2025

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Today we discuss sex and vaccines, reality and renegades. First: men can no longer compete in women’s sports—from Trump’s Executive Order, to the NCAA’s response, to William “Lia” Thomas having his records rescinded at Penn, reality is prevailing. Other evidence includes the UK Supreme Court declaring that “man” and “woman” refer to biological reality; and the U.S. Supreme Court writing an opinion that forcing LGBTQ+ books on children in public elementary schools is unconstitutional. Men cannot magically turn into women, nor boys into girls, no matter what they believe or are told. Then: from the ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices) to Vinay Prasad’s latest presentation at the FDA: the federal government is being populated by a combination of true renegades and middle ground scramblers who are dressed like renegades. A good toolkit for understanding how to make sense of the claims being made is necessary, and we all should be rooting for the renegades to win.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Trump’s EO: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/keeping-men-out-of-womens-sports/
Paula Scanlan speaks about men in women’s sports:https://x.com/xx_xyathletics/status/1940381615131332719
U.K. Supreme Court: https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2024-0042
The Lancet – sex isn’t binary! https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)00834-7/fulltext
U.S. Supreme Court – Mahmoud vs Taylor: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24-297_4f14.pdf
William Thomas in the record books: https://www.outkick.com/sports/lia-thomas-upenn-womens-swimming-record-books-updated-acknowledges-transgender-swimmer-note
RFK Jr on Tucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fzlwxJZAA
ACIP committee with Robert Malone and Retsef Levi: https://x.com/janjekielek/status/1939482343313453423
Prasad on myocarditis: https://x.com/US_FDA/status/1940111214497210425
Prasad makes full professor: https://x.com/bretweinstein/status/1554849287300792320
Earlier clips of ZDogg and Prasad and Makary: https://x.com/alexandrosm/status/1574530850565558272

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