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    Curious Cousins OK Podcast

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    All things Kooky and Spooky in the Sooner (or Cowboy) state! Native Oklahomans and cousins, Jess and Tiff, explore all the dark history, paranormal, and true crime in their home state.

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    Ep 43 Nannie Doss pt 2 Jun 30, 2023
    Show notes

    If last week’s part 1 didn’t give you the willies, maybe this week’s will. Jess wraps up her deep-dive into the Giggling Granny, aka, Nannie Doss, by going through her trial. Nannie continued to wow and stun authorities with her bizarre behavior and flirtatious attitude towards the entire ordeal. How will these exploits be received in the courtroom? Guess you’ll have to listen to find out!

    Oh! And we hope this doesn’t have you questioning your sweet ole granny’s cakes…we know 98% of grandmas are the perfect angels! Ours included!

    Double Oh! Here is the link to the YouTube video (thank you, @peahix!!) with the interview of Nannie in prison. Let us know how you feel after watching! Make sure to pay attention to her eyes and smile…<shuddering>



    Ep 42 Nannie Doss pt 1 Jun 23, 2023
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    Most people probably have warm, fuzzy feelings about their grandmas. Your favorite cousins do! Her warm, tasty cookies…nice, loving hugs…Never does the thought of POISON cross people’s minds when reminiscing about little, old grannies. Or maybe it does…Perhaps if you were a member of Nannie Doss’s family that’s exactly what you’d think!

    This week’s episode Jess tackles the Giggling Granny herself. The original Black Widow. The Lonely Hearts Killer. Lady Bluebeard: Nannie Doss.

    In part 1, Jess tells us all about Nannie’s background…all FIVE husbands, her children, and her grandchildren. Nannie moved around the USA, seeking out her ultimate fairytale romance. But did she find it here in Tulsa? Guess you better listen to find out!



    Ep 41 Grisso Mansion & Masonic Children's Home Jun 16, 2023
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    Old, spooky homes are the best, am I right? This week, your favorite cousins explore the paranormal happenings at two former homes; the Grisso Mansion of Seminole and the former Masonic Children’s Home (now Dominion House) in Guthrie. Footsteps and sounds abound in these two places where energies are HIGH! From the sounds of former servants and other Natives going about their daily business, to the running and giggling of energetic children, you won’t be disappointed in the ghouls!


    To watch the YouTube video that Jess references, click here, (The Grisso Mansion by Native Boys Productions.


    Ep 40 Cherokee Bill and Judge Isaac Parker Jun 09, 2023
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    It’s time to take it back to our roots! How about another episode dedicated to an infamous Oklahoma outlaw and the man who tried to bring them to justice?

    Tiff dives into the infamous life of Crawford “Cherokee Bill” Goldsby. For only living 20 years, he lived a life you’d only think was possible through a Hollywood script. Jess then takes over covering the one, the only, Judge Isaac Parker…aka…The Hanging Judge. This judge sat on the bench of many infamous outlaws’ cases…sentencing many to hang high!



    Ep 39 Patrick Henry Sherrill Jun 04, 2023
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    Thanks for bearing with us as we devliever this week’s episode late!

    Tiff tells the frightening tale of Patrick Henry Sherrill, infamous Oklahoman who’s terrible act coined the phrase “going postal”. Diving into Sherrill’s life paints a picture of undiagnosed mental health issues. Sherrill appeared mostly fine on the outside, but when exploring deeper, patterns can be observed that today would have been cause for concern and cries for help. His loneliness paired with a possibly obsessive/addictive personality meant Sherrill didn’t receive social cues or messages like most of the public. When unchecked, it clearly leads to tragedy.

    If you are suffering please seek help! It isn’t something to be embarrassed or ashamed about! We all could use therapy…ALL of us!

    • National Mental Health Hotline | 866-903-3787

    • NAMI HelpLine | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness 800-950-6264.

    • Dial 988 in Oklahoma to talk to someone directly. Especially if you are in an emergency mental health crisis…harm yourself or others

      - Mental Health Association of Oklahoma: Contact us anytime Monday-Friday from 8:30 a.m. – 5 p.m. at (918) 585-1213, (405) 943-3700 or using the form found on mhaok.org


    Ep 38 Oklahoma Witchcraft w/Sirens Podcast May 26, 2023
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    Jess and Tiff are taking a break this week, but have we got a treat for you all!

    In this episode, your favorite cousins teamed up with the Sirens: A Southern True Crime Podcast to talk about some DARK Oklahoma history. Did you know about 200 years AFTER the famous Salem Witch Trials, Oklahoma had at least TWO of their own? Tiff talks about the infamous Oklahoma Witchhunter himself, Mr. Solomon Hotema, a well respected, well rounded, Choctaw man. Suffering from, what one can now only believe to be trauma from the loss of a child, Hotema sought out the help of a medicine man. This medicine man told Hotema that witches were to blame for the death of his child, and many others (when in fact, it was an outbreak of meningitis). Believing this, Hotema and two others took the "law" into their own hands one afternoon. In another trial, Jess covers the horrific trial of an old Seminole or Miccosukee (part of the Creek Nation) woman. In a account largely from the school teacher at We-Wo-Ka Government Mission School, Jess retells of the horrors and inhuman treatment of the "prisoner" believed to be a witch. Several newspaper accounts boasted how much we as people had learned between the 200 years after the hysteria of Salem...but did we really learn anything? Or did history, like is typical, repeat itself?



    Ep 37 Mayo Hotel & McBride House May 19, 2023
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    Are you ready to listen to tales of things that go bump in the night? This week, your favorite cousins explore two haunted sites; the Mayo Hotel of Tulsa and the McBride House of Ft. Gibson. While the McBride House no longer offers up hotel stays, you can bet you will still come across Ft. Gibsoners that will tell you of the kooky and spooky going on in their town, and in that house! But, if you can’t access Ft. Gibson in real-life, pick of current owner Cecila Back’s book “Ghosts of the McBride House ''. She gives chilling details of the haunts her family endured during their 25+ year occupancy of the home. (It does still stand today, however, it appears to be uninhabited, but still owned by the Back family)

    The Mayo Hotel was at one time the crown jewel of Tulsa hotels. Modeled after the Ritz in NYC, The Mayo provided luxurious stays for the rich and famous. Unlike many snazzy hotels, this one seems to have little dark history behind it! The rising costs in renovation led to the hotel closing its doors, and staying that way for roughly 30 years. Thankfully, Tulsa’s iconic hotel has seen a revitalization, and it just might house more than your weary traveler…

    Check out Cecila Back’s book “Ghosts of the McBride House” here.



    Ep 36 Abandoned Hospitals May 12, 2023
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    This week, your favorite cousins explore places super kooky and spooky…abandoned hospitals! Jess explores Cottonwood Manor in Yukon, while Tiff takes a trip up the turnpike to Vinita to Eastern State Hospital. Using pictures from Abandoned Oklahoma, you can see just how creepy some of these places were that were supposed to provide help to the innocent, and not so innocent. So sit back and listen to the tales…and probably be thankful you didn’t have to go to either hospital!

    Abandoned OK’s Eastern State Hospital Pics

    Abandoned OK’s Cottonwood Manor Pics



    Ep 35 Death of Jake Hamon pt 2 May 05, 2023
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    Jess concludes the soap-opera-like story of Jake Hamon and his lover Clara Smith Hamon. The ups and downs in this case will spin your head! But even more shocking…the conclusion of the trial..and the path lives take afterwards. Remember, Jake and Clara were lovers for 10 years when Jake’s wife’s cousin’s husband (take a breath now) became President of the United States. Jake, ever looking for his next means to elevate his status, dumped Clara to resume life with his wife and family. While breaking up at an Ardmore hotel, Jake suddenly stumbles down stairs with a bullet wound, stating it had been self-inflicted. But could that be? Was this couple known to get physical at times? And what were those marks on Clara’s neck? Grab your ticket and some popcorn too (you’ll get this pun during the episode! lol) for the conclusion of this Hollywood-worthy tale.


    Ep 34 Death of Jake Hamon Apr 28, 2023
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    Time for an old-timey tale! Jess takes us back to the early 1900s, when Oklahoma’s wild west was being won! This week, Jess dives into the mysterious murder of Jake Hamon. Jake was a well-known Oklahoman…well-known as an attorney, politician, oil-man, and womanizer. Being married with two children didn’t stop ole Jake from having a TEN YEAR long affair with his shopkeeper turned business partner Clara Smith Hamon. But wait…her last name was Hamon too? How did that happen? And how did Jake end up shot at the hotel he was staying at, awaiting the arrival of his wife and children, so they could move to Washington DC because the OG Mrs. Hamon’s cousin was elected president (or at least the cousin’s husband was)? Check out part 1 of this 2 part, Jess-irific series. This story may just be too good for real-life! Wait…is that Hollywood calling???


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