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    Creative Principles

    Welcome to Creative Principles, I’m your host Brock Swinson. Here I’ll be speaking with writers, directors, actors, musicians and more. We’ll discuss the habits, routines, and methods of a creative life.

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    Ep432 - Herbert James Winterstern, Writer-Director Storm Chasing Film ’Supercell’ Jun 04, 2023
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    As an eight-year-old, Herbert James Winterstern would sneak downstairs to watch movies with his dad. These movies, classics like Planet of the Apes (1968), which inspired him to become a writer-director. In his latest film, Supercell, “A teenage boy runs away to follow his fathers footsteps, legendary storm chaser Bill Brody.” The film stars Alec Baldwin, Skeet Ulrich, and Anne Heche. In this interview, Winterstern talks about the obligation for directors to also be writers today, his partnership with Anna Elizabeth James, his experience as a storm chaser, why the profession is less dangerous than it seems, small budget blockbusters, and why he wanted to make a movie about storm chasers. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep431 - Robert Rippberger & Devin Keaton, Filmmakers & Founders Ascent Studios in North Carolina Jun 01, 2023
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    Award-winning filmmaker Robert Rippberger, filmmaker Devin Keaton, and business magnate Nathan Edwards have announced the groundbreaking of Ascent Studios, the soon-to-be largest film studio in North Carolina, amid the regions production boom. The state-of-the-art facility is located in Spring Hope, just a short drive from Raleigh, and spans on 200 acres of pristine land. The studio is being built by Nathan Edwards of Edwards, Inc., a trusted name in the region with over 35 years of experience as an industrial contractor. With an eye towards creating a world-class production facility, Ascent Studios is being built to the highest standards, with cutting-edge technology and expertly designed spaces for every aspect of film production, big or small. The landscape occupies dozens of picturesque exteriors for fields, forests, roads, barns, lakes, and manor shots. Ascent Studios will boast five production stages totaling 170,000 square feet, making it the largest film studio in North Carolina upon completion in late-2023. Productions that utilize Ascent Studios will receive a 25% tax rebate on qualifying expenses and purchases funded by the North Carolina Film and Entertainment Grant. In this interview, we talk about the origin of Ascent Studios in Spring Hope North Carolina, how they plan to collaborate with the studio in Wilmington, how tax incentives bring big movies to small towns, and what’s next for Ascent Studios. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep430 - Friederike Fabritius, Neuroscientist & Author ‘The Brain-Friendly Workplace’ May 27, 2023
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    “I’ve always been very interested in people. Originally, I wanted to study philosophy, but by accident, I stumbled into a psychology seminar,” said neuroscientist Friederike Fabritius. “I wanted to see how people behaved rather than thinking about how people behaved.” This led her to the study of neuroscience. Friederike is the author of ‘The Leading Brain’ and ‘The Brain-Friendly Workplace.’ The latter is a smart, science-based approach to retaining talent, finding better places to work, and making the world a better place. In this interview, we talk about how the body and the brain are connected, why sleep is a washing machine for your brain, the importance of movement and sunlight for your brain, how to break up your day for laser focus, why many deep thinkers feel drained in fast-paced jobs, internal diversity in the workplace, and ways to feel better both today and for your future self. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep429 - Maurice Willams & Ian Edelman, Screenwriters Kid Cudi’s ‘Entergalactic’ May 25, 2023
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    “I’d always been a big fan of the written word, from childhood, in different mediums,” says Maurice Williams. “Whether it be youthful song writing or my undergraduate degree in journalism. There’s just beauty in the creation, the alchemy of having nothing and then you have something, about writing.” In this case, the something from nothing is Entergalactic, an animated series about Jabari, a streetwear-clad artist on the cusp of success. The story is based on a location as much as it is a person, inspired by Kid Cudi, along with Williams, Kenya Barris, and Ian Edelman. “If I go all the way back, Maurice and I share this, which is why we make great partners, I think growing up as a TV kid, watching movies with my brother while our parents worked, I think even beyond that, it was growing up in New York City, going to public school and writing a bus and subway at a young age, you realize the greatest characters studies are in your backyard,” says Edelman. Edelman packed many of these stories in his 2010 series How to Make It in America. The HBO series followed a group of 20-somethings living in New York City, and featured Bryan Greenberg, Lake Bell, Luis Guzmán, and Kid Cudi. “I wanted to tell stories about kids I knew who were leading interesting lives that were not the conventional movie, movie. We had a different way of looking at the world.” Listen to my interview with Kenya Barris in Episode 227 of the podcast. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep428 - Peter Gould, Screenwriter ‘Breaking Bad’ & Creator ‘Better Call Saul’ May 24, 2023
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    “In the beginning, the two shows were very different, at least for me,” says Peter Gould, in regards to writing for Breaking Bad and then being the creator of Better Call Saul. “When we started Breaking Bad, when the Writer’s Room opened, Vince Gilligan had already shot and edited the pilot.” He continues, “We knew where the story began, but in a lot of ways, we were still discovering who Walter White was. There were some big surprises for us. Better Call Saul was a very unusual circumstance because we opened the Writer’s Room from what Vince and I had written, which was a two-page pitch of what the show would be, and it was a completely different show from the one you saw.” Better Call Saul, somewhat of a sequel, somewhat of a prequel, with flashes of never-before-seen Breaking Bad moments worked tremendously well thanks to a single question posed by Gould and Gilligan: “What problem does becoming Saul Goodman solve?” Warning: There are spoilers for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul in this interview. And, the documentary I’m working on that Peter asked me about, you can find more info about here: https://www.daredevilsociety.com/docuseries Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep427 - David West Read, Screenwriter ‘Schitt’s Creek’ & Showrunner ‘The Big Door Prize’ May 22, 2023
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    “I don’t know what made me want to be a writer, but I loved doing it a very early age,” says screenwriter David West Read. “I started making movies with my friends when I was in elementary school. I would have them over for sleepovers, then hand out out scripts.” Back then, the parodies were Jurassic Pork and David Read’s A Christmas Carol. “It’s something I gravitated towards. I thought for a long-time about doing something more stable and secure, something with a clearer path through University, but it was the thing I kept coming back to and the thing in my free time that brought me the most joy. I don’t know why we’re drawn to the things we’re drawn to, but I’ve been drawn to writing for performance for as long as I can remember.” If one were to only examine Read’s IMDb page, it looks like he came out of nowhere to land a job writing 28 episodes on Schitt’s Creek and then a showrunner credit for The Big Door Prize, but that’s certainly not the case. “I studied at NYU Tisch School of the Arts and then Julliard for playwriting.” One of the plays he wrote back then as a student, his teacher, who he somewhat apprenticed for, shared it with an agent and it was produced Off-Broadway. “[Theater] was so immediate. When you’re just starting out writing, the idea of writing a TV show or making a movie, it seems so out of reach. With stage writing, you can bring a few actors together, have them read it for a group of friends, and it already feels like a performance. It already feels closer to the finish line.” Read’s second play, The Performers, about the backstage at the adult film awards, went straight to Broadway. Read was still a student at the time. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep426 - Dana Stevens, Critic & Author ‘Camera Man Buster Keaton, the Dawn of Cinema...' May 19, 2023
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    Dana Stevens is a film critic for Slate and the author of Camera Man: Buster Keaton, the Dawn of Cinema, and the Invention of the Twentieth Century, a genre-defying work of cultural history based around the creative genius of the Great Stone Face. In this interview, we discuss the work of Buster Keaton, how the industry has changed for film critics, the letter she received from Roger Ebert at an early age, why you need to see as many movies as you can and some industry secrets for finding your voice today as a film critic. This is a special interview associated with my first documentary, Daredevil Society, a series about the history of stunt performers, including everyone from Buster Keaton to Jackie Chan to Zoe Bell to Keanu Reeves. Learn more or become an investor here: www.daredevilsociety.com/docuseries Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep425 - Paul Lieberstein & Aaron Zelman, Creators AMC’s ‘Lucky Hank’ May 18, 2023
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    “I was particularly interested in writing comedy,” says Paul Lieberstein, who is best known for playing Toby on The Office, but has writing credits for King of the Hill, The Drew Carey Show, Ghosted, Space Force, and now, Lucky Hank. “Some Woody Allen short stories and Steve Martin albums. In my twenties, I learned there was a whole industry there, and you can do that, because I had never met anyone who had done that.” Aaron Zelman, the co-creator of Lucky Hank, also realized he enjoyed writing at an early age, even though he didn’t feel he was particularly good at it back then. “It dovetailed with my interest in theater, acting, and improv. The more I did it, the more I wanted to be the one creating what I was doing.” Zelman’s additional writing credits include Law & Order, Criminal Minds, Damages, and The Killing. Together, they have adapted Richard Russo’s 1997 novel, Straight Man. The novel can be described as follows: “William Henry Devereaux, Jr., is the reluctant chairman of the English department of a badly underfunded college in the Pennsylvania rust belt. Devereaux's reluctance is partly rooted in his character—he is a born anarchist—and partly in the fact that his department is more savagely divided than the Balkans.” The writers say the book is hilarious, but also very serious. “There are some darker, underlying currents of what defines the character of Hank and we didn’t want to shy away from that.” Lieberstein says, “Something we had to talk about a lot was the storytelling demands of the hour, like how little could we do. We just wanted to do people that are living, without soap stuff, or overarching concepts. We were stretching the boundaries of how little we could do, knowing we had an obligation to keep people interested.” To find this balance, the writers say they rewrote every single episode about four times. “The thing that we kept coming back to, doing as little as possible, we didn’t want to implode bigger concepts. We didn’t want to throw in a murder. It was a challenge to keep the audience entertained without doing that stuff, but in my life, things feel pretty damn dramatic without a murder to solve. We wanted to have an audience go on that ride too.” To encompass all of this in one idea, the writers came up with the story driver: “The high drama of everyday life.” Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep424 - Diedrich Bader, Actor ‘The Drew Carey Show,’ ‘American Housewife,’ & ‘Lucky Hank’ May 17, 2023
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    Diedrich Bader grew up in Paris, watching movies from Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, and Fred Astaire. Through some unique circumstances, he ended up performing as a Chaplin in front of a large crowd, getting a standing ovation, and he was hooked from then on to become a comedic performer. Diedrich has over 200 credits, a mixture of performances and voice work, including Office Space, Napoleon Dynamite, Veep, The Drew Carey Show, The Beverly Hillbillies, American Housewife, and most recently, AMC's Lucky Hank. This is one of three Lucky Hank interviews, so be on the lookout for my chats with actress Mireille Enos and creators Paul Lieberstein and Aaron Zelman. In this interview, we talk about Diedrich’s love for physical comedy, appreciation for child-like characters, how sitcom audiences have changed their viewing habits over the years, the scene that made him nervous in Lucky Hank, and his view on perseverance over the course of a long career. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


    Ep423 - Mireille Enos, Actress ‘Lucky Hank,’ ‘The Killing,’ & ‘World War Z’ May 16, 2023
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    Mireille Enos followed her brother’s footsteps into acting at an early age, which eventually led her to New York City to study acting. Today, she’s best known for The Killing, World War Z, Sabotage, Gangster Squad, Big Love, Hanna, and now, Lucky Hank. In the latest project, Lucky Hank, Mireille plays Lily, the wife Hank (Bob Odenkirk), an English department chairman at an underfunded college who toes the line between a full-blown meltdown and the offbeat chaos of his personal and professional life. This is one of three Lucky Hank interviews, so be on the lookout for my chats with actor Diedrich Bader and creators Paul Lieberstein and Aaron Zelman. We also discuss her work with Veena Sud, who can you listen to in Episode 94. In this interview, Mireille talks about dealing with rejection, feeling embraced by New York but not Los Angeles, scripts you feel like should be yours, the unusual trajectory of The Killing, using the camera as your witness, and advice for writers to create roles actors desperately want to play. And, if you haven’t seen Lucky Hank yet, there is a partially spoiler for Episode 4 around the 27:00 minute mark. Want more? Steal my first book, Ink by the Barrel - Secrets From Prolific Writers right now for free. Simply head over to www.brockswinson.com to get your free digital download and audiobook. If you find value in the book, please share it with a friend as we’re giving away 100,000 copies this year. It’s based on over 400 interviews here at Creative Principles. Enjoy! If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts? It only takes about 60-seconds and it really helps convince some of the hard-to-get guests to sit down and have a chat (simply scroll to the bottom on your iTunes Podcast app and click “Write Review"). Enjoy the show!


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